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Deviprasad
Congress Achievements
by Deviprasad on May 02, 2009 04:39 PM  | Hide replies

Congress people killed more than 5000 sikhs in Delhi and other parts of India, nobody got punished. Congress allowed to continue killing and looting of sikhs for 3 days and not sent even a single policeman to help them for 3 days.

In 1985 Shah Bano won a case in SC. After this communal Mslims started demonstrating. To appease these communal parasites, Rajiv, who had brute majority in Loksabha, ammended the constitution to undo the ruling of SC! After this there was resentment amomgst the peaceful secular Hindus. So he opened the gates of Ram Mandir in Ayodhya. This resulted in formation of Babri Action Committee. At this stage BJP took advantage of the people's resentment against 'pseudo secular' policies of Rajiv. Rajiv also threw the govt of Farooq Abdulah and rigged the elections in Kashmir, which gave birth to terrorism in Kashmir. Before that Kashmir was peaceful. He also banned satanic verses, even before it was banned in Pak & Iran.

Thus Cong's policy of appeasing communal Mslims since 1985, is the root cause of communal divide in the country. The strengthening of BJP is as a backlash of this communal approach of Congress, who claim themselves to be secular. But Congress don't support secular Muslims like Taslima, Dr Kalam, Salman Rushdie etc.

Kashmiri pundits are thrown out of Kashmir and staying in other parts of India as refugees. Congress questioned even the existence of Hindu God Shriramji and bent to destroy Ram Sethu. Afzal guru is enjoying picnic in

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varghese
Re: Congress Achievements
by varghese on May 02, 2009 05:10 PM
STOP THE RESERVATION POLICY OF HINDUS..ALL APPEASEMENTS WILL END..MORE THAN 95% OF ALL RESERVATIONS GOES TO THE HINDU KITTY ALONE INSPITE OF ALL THESE SO CALLED MINORITY APPEASEMENT WHICH U SAY..

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JGN
Re: Re: Congress Achievements
by JGN on May 02, 2009 05:14 PM
What about your "minority" quota? What about "special economic package" for the "minorities"? What about pension for the Mad_rassa teachers?? What about your bargaining for your right to run teaching shops (aka Educational Institutions)???

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Neo
Re: Re: Re: Congress Achievements
by Neo on May 02, 2009 05:37 PM
First do something about media...they put one such article and divide the whole nation. a

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kenady
Fake Modi
by kenady on May 02, 2009 04:15 PM  | Hide replies

In Gujarat thousands of Jewelry workers out of job which depend on US export and now they are begging for food, Modi is talking about development. His state is failed to control recession now where is his develpoment and why don't he provide people with jobs and ensure their job security, his slogan of development like BJP's slogan India shining both fake.



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anand
Re: Fake Modi
by anand on May 02, 2009 04:20 PM
these workers have to go jobless, its blood money, they are blooddiomond from africa.

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kenady
Re: Re: Fake Modi
by kenady on May 02, 2009 04:44 PM
JGN it is the responsibility of Chief Minister who is talking about India shining and develpment, and economy growth in his state 12% then he can give the job for these people his govt. got lots of money in this heavy growth of his states economy , so why don't he provide them jobs ? Where is his development now ? How India is shining when thousand of people jobless ???

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pamsask
Re: Re: Re: Fake Modi
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 04:46 PM
Very well said Kenady. I agree with you completely.

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JGN
Re: Re: Re: Fake Modi
by JGN on May 02, 2009 04:50 PM
India Shining is old Stroy. What has the Congis done during the past five years? More farmers have committed suiciide in Maharashtra and AP, ruled by the Congis than in any other part of the Country.

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JGN
Re: Fake Modi
by JGN on May 02, 2009 04:25 PM
kenady, do you get night-mares thinking of Modi? What is the relationship with Modi and the article under discussion??

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pamsask
Re: Re: Fake Modi
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 04:45 PM
JGN the mass murderer Modi is part of the Bharat Jalao Party & this is an article by a follower of those mass murderers saying their chances will not be disrupted coz Bharat Jalao Party attacked Churches & killed some more innocent Indians. Only for supporters of mass muderers of Bharat Jalao Party like you this article is not related.

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JGN
Re: Re: Re: Fake Modi
by JGN on May 02, 2009 05:15 PM
Do you know the reason for attack on Churches? Have you heard of New Life Church? Thier founder had to resign due to se*x scandal and their Faith-healer David Hogan is a fraud.



Are you telling us that the "majority" just pounced upon the "minorities" for no reason? What would have happened if a Compatment full of passengers were burnt alive in Pakistan and the culprits were H1ndus? Would they have left even a single H1ndu alive in their Country??



Why report for abuse? Why don't you reply? Where are all your friends who jumped at me??

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pamsask
Re: Re: Re: Re: Fake Modi
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 02:09 PM
If you want to justify Gujarat Riots but saying it is the result of Godhra then there is nothing else I can say to you. If people were murdered in Godhra train then why kill 1000s of innocent Indians who had nothing to do with the Godhra train incident in the first place. If you want to punish those who were actually behind the Godhra then bring them to law why kill 1000s of innocent Indians who had nothing to do with Godhra. If a faith healer is a fraud & involved in sex scandal then punish him & bring him to law why kill 1000s of innocent Indians of his community who had nothing to do with this whole thing. But then law & order is not something Sane Indians come to associate with the mass murdering Bharat Jalao Party. All the mass murdering Bharat Jalao Party wants is to grab power by all means even if it means killing 1000s of innocent Indians who had nothing to do with any of this.

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JGN
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fake Modi
by JGN on May 04, 2009 05:03 PM
pamsask, go and tell this to the Mus1ims of Swat who have imposed Jizya on the Sikhs also.

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tajender
Re: Fake Modi
by tajender on May 02, 2009 05:18 PM
modi was tea boy in a roadside dhaba in ahmadabad,he can serve them with food nicely.

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tajender
Re: Re: Fake Modi
by tajender on May 02, 2009 05:21 PM
Pakistan and the culprits were H1ndus? Would they have left even a single H1ndu alive in their Country??



pakistanis not coward like u jgn who will ignite the train and blame on others like bomb planting bussines.

lie is not sin in hinduism they can do &say anything.

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JGN
Re: Re: Re: Fake Modi
by JGN on May 02, 2009 07:05 PM
Yes, we all know how brave the Pakis are. We had 93000 POWs and 5 lakh Sq. kms of land our Control in 1971. Now 10 lakh persons have been displaced in Swat. They cannot control even a handful of Talibanis. Karachi is totally shut-down since last one week!! MQM goons are controlling Karachi now!!!

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pamsask
Re: Re: Re: Re: Fake Modi
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 02:12 PM
What does Karachi & Swat have to do with India & the topic under discussion JGN. The topic under discussion is of innocent Indians being murdered by the truckload by the Bharat Jalao Party & not even being regretful of it nor want to change their ways.

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varghese
Re: Fake Modi
by varghese on May 02, 2009 05:19 PM
ALMOST ALL JOBS IN INDIA ARE DEPENDENT UPON AMERICAN/GULF/EUROPEAN MARKETS..MODI GOT MAXIMUM INVESTMENTS FROM THERE..MOST PEOPLE HATE US AND CHRISTIANS BUT THE INVESTMENTS COME FROM THERE ALONE..

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JGN
Re: Re: Fake Modi
by JGN on May 02, 2009 05:21 PM
So they are doing some charity!!!! Bluffer, they are only driven by profit motive. Then why they are not going to the sub-Saharan African Countries?? Or to Afghansitan or Pakisan or Bengladesh??

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anand
What happened
by anand on May 02, 2009 04:02 PM  | Hide replies

What really happened.
The indians were much advanced than the westerners long back. Once Kunti was enjoying nude sunbathing. A passer by scr.ew.ed her. She became pregnant with karna.She went home and told her parents that it was the sun god who did this. This lead to the widespread news about the manlyness of sungod. The girls were from that time not allowed to do sunbathing. Thats when the dhupatta culture was also promoted. The guys who used to come out to watch these girls also stopped comming out, and the sunbathing culture died out slowly.
Then there was draupadi, she had a great se* drive. She used to have 6some every night with the five pandavas. The day was reserved for Krishna, since he had a big one. This lead to the pros.ti.tute culture in india.


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NamoUdupiSrikrishna
Re: Re: What happened
by NamoUdupiSrikrishna on May 02, 2009 04:39 PM
JGN, the great hypocrite, why do you bring this foreign story into our discussion about our great culture, background and traditions? The lady you mentioned was not married when the so called spirit impregnated her and she was a virgin and in the culture of the middle east/israel, unmarried girls becoming pregnant was nothing new and not forbidden too. It was a normal practice. this iwas the same case in ours as well as any great traditions, the female had maximum freedom and liberty to select her mate and impregnator.

It seems that you are very much prejudiced about this culture and their traditions. I feel little doubtful about your claim of a rationalist and feel that you are neoreligious fundamentalist or extremist in the guise of a rationalist.

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JGN
Re: Re: Re: What happened
by JGN on May 02, 2009 04:43 PM
NamoUdupiSrikrishna, I do not have to prove my Rationalism to re1igious fanatics. If your claim is correct, let them admit that he was like that.

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pamsask
Re: Re: What happened
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 04:50 PM
JGN aren't you an atheist. Just coz you don't like your own religion that does not mean you can have so much hatred for someone else's religion? Just coz you don't like your own religion does not mean you can say whatever you want about someone else's religion. But then again spoken like a true follower of the Bharat Jalao Party.

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JGN
Re: Re: Re: What happened
by JGN on May 02, 2009 04:58 PM
I have grown above Re1igions. So I do not need one. That does not mean you are at liberty to lambast other Re1igion and prove that yours the only true g0d.

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pamsask
Re: Re: Re: Re: What happened
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 02:14 PM
JGN on this entire message board I am not the one who lambasts religions mine or anyone else's. It is you on the contrary who has been using abusive & foul language continuously throughout.

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pamsask
Re: Re: Re: What happened
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 04:46 PM
And JGN you were supposed to be an atheist.

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Suman
journey of hinduism
by Suman on May 02, 2009 03:57 PM  | Hide replies

Hinduism is not a religion. It encompasses tradition, history, art, culture of India. It also encompasses Indian contribution to Philosopy, metaphysics, ethics, aesthetics, logic, science and every other thing. Along with a lot of good things some bad things have also infested Hinduism during its historical growth. But, we thank Dr. Ambedkar for giving us a forward looking constitution which has done away with all bad things of the past.

For me the real philosophy and science are more important than religions or cults which focus on a very narrow area of Philosophy. Just check how much small is the concept of monotheism when compared to the vast number of subjects of philosophy like polytheism, monism, dualism, ditheism, gnosticism, etc.

I understand that RSS concept of Hinduism is also all inclusive. Only thing is RSS is focused more on India for the time being. The Church has to be attacked & won on the vastness of the concepts of philosophy & science which is the basis of Hinduism.

World is becoming small due to globalisation. Now is the time to grow beyond India. Along with Bharatmatha we have start worshiping Jaganmatha contributing to the unification of the whole world. Hinduism has to grow beyond temple, church, mosque, or any other shrine, the goal being the ultimate truth specified in the Vedas. Why do we need a world with passports and visas? Let Indians vanish & find oneness with the world in search of the ultimate truth.

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anand
Re: journey of hinduism
by anand on May 02, 2009 04:00 PM
the religion where still sun is considered a god, people marry arround the fire, as agnidev.they worship the penis of a man, shivlingam. they look at astrology and think that the day to day life is goverend by the position of stars. is this some sane culture promoting science.

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NamoUdupiSrikrishna
Re: Re: journey of hinduism
by NamoUdupiSrikrishna on May 02, 2009 04:45 PM
There is nothing wrong in worshipping sun because it is the source of energy for all living being on this planet.

Worhipping penis and vagina is also justified because they represent the craetor, the divine tool in giving birth to a new life, new life and hence in the process of creation, playing the role of creator, creating tools.

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pamsask
Re: Re: Re: journey of hinduism
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 04:54 PM
JGN aren't you supposed to be an atheist. Just coz you don't like your own religion that does not mean you can have so much hatred for someone else's religion? Just coz you don't follow your own religion does not mean you can say whatever you want about someone else's religion. But then again what else can you expect from the followers of mass murderers called the Bharat Jalao Party. A party that preaches hatred, that preaches Indians to fight & kill other innocent Indians by the 1000s, that preaches communalism, that preaches Indians to be bigots, zealots & religious fanatics. Only they can say things like you do.

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JGN
Re: Re: Re: Re: journey of hinduism
by JGN on May 02, 2009 05:00 PM
I care two hoots for BJP. What about dime-a-dozen Pastoral letters issued by your Churches against the duly elected Communist Govt in Kerala? The Catholic Bishops Conference had issued open letters asking the X'tians not to vote for the "non-believers". When you cannot tolerate a Secular party like CPI (M), whom are you going to tolerate??

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pamsask
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: journey of hinduism
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 02:17 PM
JGN if that was true then why kill 1000s of innocent Indians who had nothing to do with this. Why not bring the people who did this to justice by lawful, legal, democratic ways. Why punish the whole community for what one stupid Bhishop did or did not do

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Suman
Re: Re: journey of hinduism
by Suman on May 03, 2009 09:59 AM
Atleast Bruno is not burnt in India for claiming earth is not flat.

Now, don't reply that brides are burnt for Dowry as dowry is common in Christianity also and wives are burnt as Sathi. All these things are banned by Hindu laws.

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Sonu Madhavan
Re: what really happened
by Sonu Madhavan on May 02, 2009 03:54 PM
here come another half converted with his dirty mind who cant see anything beyond that

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eCran
I am unable to find one difference between Taliban and BJP
by eCran on May 02, 2009 03:20 PM  | Hide replies

Taliban - Claims to protect religion
BJP - Claims to protect religion

Taliban - Destroys other religious structures
BJP - Destroys other religious structures

Taliban - Attacks minorities
BJP - Attacks minorities

Taliban - Wants Eeslam Nation
BJP - Wants Hinddovta Nation

Taliban - Does moral policing
BJP - Does moral policing

Taliban - Fond of war
BJP - Fond of war


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Suman
Re: I am unable to find one difference between Taliban and BJP
by Suman on May 03, 2009 10:02 AM
What about Social Action Committee? Doesn't it do moral policing?

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Godwin Blue
Re: I am unable to find one difference between Taliban and BJP
by Godwin Blue on May 02, 2009 03:22 PM
Excellent comparison. People just have to open their eyes and see the fact.

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kenady
Re: I am unable to find one difference between Taliban and BJP
by kenady on May 02, 2009 03:42 PM
eCran but I found one different in Taliban and BJP, that is Talibans are attacking face to face and BJP is a back-staber so they are called cowards

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JGN
Re: I am unable to find one difference between Taliban and BJP
by JGN on May 02, 2009 04:18 PM
Can you find any difference between KKK (Klu Klux Klan) and Taliban??

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pamsask
Re: Re: I am unable to find one difference between Taliban and BJ
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 04:38 PM
No JGN I cannot find any diffce betwn KKK, Taliban & the Bharat Jalao Party. All 3 are the same incl RSS, VHP, SS, MNS too.

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JGN
Re: Re: Re: I am unable to find one difference between Taliban an
by JGN on May 02, 2009 04:45 PM
MNS is the pet of Congis. How vocal they were over the attack over a Pub in Mangalore!! None of them condemned the attack of MNS on the migrant workers form UP and Bihar. Do you think one pub is more important than the "dal-roti" of thousands of migrant workers??

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pamsask
Re: Re: Re: Re: I am unable to find one difference between Taliba
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 05:23 PM
JGN if you know how to read then I suggest you read my post very carefully all over again. I have made it amply clear that I do not like communal parties like Bharat Jalao Party, RSS, SS, VHP incl MNS. As for Congress let me assure you Congress does not want to do anything with either MNS or SS which is the reason why they have never ever approached either of them in Bombay no matter what the result of current election may be. On the other hand it is the Bharat Jalao Party that have joined hands with their Bombay twins the SS for the ongoing elections. For them being in news is more imp than imp issues which is the reason why their entire campaign is about bashing 1 party or another rather than fighting the elections on the plank of imp issues coz they just can't. For the Bharat Jalao Party grabbing power by any possible means is more imp. Which is the reason why the mass murderers came to known by the entire country only after 1992 when they demolished a house of worship & killed 1000s of innocent Indians in nationwide bloody communal riots sponsored & instigated by then since then till date. Unless you are a member of the Bharat Jalao Party nobody before that knew anything about the Bharat Jalao Party. They were no where in existence on the Political scenario of India & they wanted to come forward so they destroyed a house of worship & killed 1000s of innocent Indians & hey presto all of India knows about them. Bharat Jalao Party becomes a household name.

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JGN
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by JGN on May 02, 2009 06:32 PM
Babjri Masjid issued was a creation of Congress Party itself. The then PM, Rajiv Gandhi opened the gates of the disputed structure to the H1ndus for worship in the wake of Shah Bano Case (which in any case did not help the Mus1iims). Mr. L.K. Advani and Mr. Syed Sahabuddin (I do not know whether he is still alive) saw opportunity in the same. Both exploited the same to the fullest extent. The Congress party did not gain from that in any way. This incident helped BJP to increase the number of MPs in the subsequent election. And the rest, as the saying goes, is History. Even the original Shiv Sena was sponsored on Congis. The then CM of Maharashtra. Vasantrao Naik was the Chief Guest at the inaguration of Shiv Sena and people used to call it mockingly "Vasant Seana". At that time the aim of Congis were to destroy to Communist movement and supression of labour class. White they were successful in destroying the Communist Movement, that also broguht an end to the Textile Industry in Mumbai in the wake of prolonged strike organied by Dr. Datta Samant who had no backing of any organized Political party.

Congis and their hunger for power is the root cause of all problems in our Country.



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Suman
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I am unable to find one difference between Ta
by Suman on May 03, 2009 10:06 AM
Congress likes to do business with only groups like KDF, NDS and Social Action Committee.

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True Indian
Re: I am unable to find one difference between Taliban and BJP
by True Indian on May 02, 2009 04:27 PM
I have one to add
Taliban illtreat/abuse/ no respect for women
BJP supports female infanticide ( Gujarat sex ratio 1000 males to 783 females)Also attack women

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True Indian
Re: Re: I am unable to find one difference between Taliban and BJ
by True Indian on May 02, 2009 04:29 PM
One more
Taliban does not appreciate art
BJP too cannot appreciate art ( ala Hussain)

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Godwin Blue
Face of an evil devil
by Godwin Blue on May 02, 2009 03:13 PM  | Hide replies

Scroll up to see the face of an evil devil

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rohit sharma
Re: Face of an evil devil
by rohit sharma on May 02, 2009 04:08 PM
that's why I alway's cal BJP is Bhartiya Jihadi Party...and BJP will erase good image of india from world map and it is already started by Modi and Orisa/karnatka CM...still we have time to stop these durty party.

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pamsask
Re: Re: Face of an evil devil
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 05:24 PM
Rohit you can add one more name. I call BJP the Bharat Jalao Party.

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Godwin Blue
Back to old days - where poor remain poor.
by Godwin Blue on May 02, 2009 03:11 PM

Instead of winning vote in the name of religion and caste. BJP should be win vote by telling people how they are going to help poor people to survive. How they are going to work towards the development of the people, nation etc ?

But these useless, brainless thugs they sell violence, hate, crimes, division among people. Most of these politician they never seen schools and they worked in butcher shop. Now they make people believe they are going to save India.

This RSS/ Bjp idi0t claims he has done the right thing by burning church and minorities. So killing people is right thing in his dictionary. The whole country will be on fire if these guys comes to power.

What is the difference between Taliban and Hindutva guys.

Actually nothing except they represent different religion.

Good BJP/ RSS the future may look bright for you but the future of the country will be dark if you come to power.

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