CPI going to gain and can overtake CPM in next 10 years if they show some maturity now. They need to seriously think of finding a new young secretary to lead them who can overtake gunda pinrayi.... He should be acceptable to all sections and should have great image.I guaranty CPI will become powerfull than CPM
Re: CPI going to gain in Kerala
by JAZ on Mar 30, 2009 06:29 PM
It should show some courage and stand on its own leg.Stick to the ideology.Try to be gentle man party.Stick to what it says.Dont change the words day by day.
Yes the writer is correct after elections CPM will become irrelevant and for that the seeds are already sown in West Bengal and sowing in progress in Kerala ( you can understand from the recent developments )
Re: after elections CPM will become irrelevant
by Vidwan Singh on Mar 30, 2009 06:39 PM
Yes Fools are going to rule the states &in centre in next decade. The scoundrals who have no ideology except to take their sons & daughters to top & send money to swiss banks are your future if you let thecthings ga as they are...
Re: after elections CPM will become irrelevant
by ranjan das on Mar 30, 2009 07:00 PM
Yes, CPM will gain majority of seats and Dinesh Mahato of TMC whom rediff.com reporter talked with will join CPM for a birth in the Rajyasabha,as said by some trinamool insiders here in Calcutta
I agree. I have to see my top and bottomline. I had to fire my GM- H.R and VP - Marketing, which was because they could not produce needed results. FYI, Both were drawing above 15 Lakhs ?? So am i to blame or the Government ?
....their own destruction. We are seeing here a few Sahadevan, Mukherjee and banerjee s whose parents were perhaps the hopeless diverted generations of the 70s....They still could not come out of that hangover... Still they are cheerleading their own destruction...... The total number of closed factories in west Bengal under CPM rule is : 69754!!!!!! Yes.....you have read it correctly....and when they tried to make a factory they snatched away farmer's land!!!! Q. Why they did not make factories in the closed factory spaces? Ans.: because their cadres live only by promotery or looting the closed factory properties and real estates.......
Q. How long will they survive blaming oppositions? Ans.: few more days until these Banerjees, Mukherjees and Sahadevans exist who are eating their own flesh......
And for God's sake we dont need that mallu Karat to decide the fate of bengal.....
Even Party top brass had admitted that they would lose 25-28 seats out of total 42 in WB.All of these will happen bcoz of their high-handed stalinistic style of atrocity in Nandigram........and also this time opposition Trinamool and congress are united,which will give them very tough challenge.......for last 10 years CPM is winning only bcoz of division of opposition vote bank into trinamool and congress.....this time it will not happen.....so CPM will surely lose
Re: Yes, CPM is going to lose in West Bengal
by Subhabrata Roy on Mar 30, 2009 06:24 PM
So far i read Avik.. the top party brass has said that they will not win more than 25 and loose no less than 22.. I think that the opposition to win 25-28 seats is no way feasible.. Its something the left will win 22 seats, the opposition in 15 seats.. Rest 5 anyone can win..
Re: Yes, CPM is going to lose in West Bengal
by atanu raha on Mar 30, 2009 06:25 PM
frm whr u gt those figures Bose? bt don't put ur numbers in others mouth .... nice to b a dreamer .... keep dreaming .... gud luck ...
Re: Re: Yes, CPM is going to lose in West Bengal
by Avik Bose on Mar 30, 2009 06:11 PM
I am not sure abt tripura.....but it's sure for kerala........and this time Karat Yechury duo wouldn't be able to enjoy any sorts of authority without accountability and to work at the behest of their bosses of Beijing
Re: CPM's relevence
by Mayukh Chakraborty on Mar 30, 2009 07:11 PM
Yes, you're correct. The actual cause behind left party's 32 year ruling in Bengal is - they are fully organized, they have string leader, educated and cultured person from different fields of the society. They well organized their parties. CPIM, FB, CPI, RSP etc. - all are purely cadre based party. Al party workers have 100% dedication towards party's vision, mission and motto. Almost all of the leaders of Left Parties, are from cultured family, having good and sound educational background as well as string skill of communication with excellent personality.
BUT - opposition???? say - TMC????? They all have lack of the above mentioned points/features. Actually TMC always opposed LF in bengal, they have nothing towards their vision, mission etc. Only one thing they have in their mind - WE HAVE TO OPPOSE CPIM AND LF GOVT. By hook or crook, they have find any small issues to big issues and put negative impact using the commercial media (like Stat Ananda etc).
Can anyone say that Mamata Banerjee and her followers - ever said any positive towards LF rules Govt in Bengal? Have they support in any small initiative? Have they ever said that - CPM have done these and these etc. NEVER - YES NEVER.
Mamata Banerjee and her so called(?) TMC, never said any positive for last 20 years. Actually all of the opposition parties - like - TMC and Congress, here in WB, are extremely JEOLOUS upon 32 years ruling of LF.
Re: CPM's relevence
by Sole on Mar 30, 2009 06:38 PM
Well said.But now situation has been changed.Due to failure to take strong actions against TMC for which WB lost NANO project from Singur give pains to all citizens. Peoples feel that present CM should take stern action against destructive policies of TMC in name of farmer's right. He should stick to his decision to give 1000 acres of land to TATA. No agreement in front of Governor was necessary. TMC or Mamata can not fix the project size to 600 acres of land and to give pressure to return 400 acres to the farmers. Because, she is not an expert to say what will be the project size and what will be size of down steam projects.
Re: Re: CPM's relevence
by Avik Bose on Mar 30, 2009 06:06 PM
but this time,that party of one MP will be a party of 22MPs......u can check it.......then u can experience the real fun of democracy
Re: Re: Re: CPM's relevence
by Subhabrata Roy on Mar 30, 2009 06:30 PM
This is really funny also.. Even winning 22 seats in WB in 2009 LS elections is something Mamata cant even dream.. You have done that Avik.. So Kudos to your dreaming power :)
Re: Re: Re: CPM's relevence
by mailme alladin on Mar 30, 2009 06:11 PM
Avik, salute to you! At least you are not saying TMC - just 1 MP because of rigging of CPM.
Re: Re: Re: Re: CPM's relevence
by Avik Bose on Mar 30, 2009 06:19 PM
yes,there r many other reasons, but nobody can't undermine the degree of malpractises and rigging left parties used to resort......if u hv any doubt,u can go to any booth at Bally area of Howrah or Belgachia of Dumdum on the election day.....or the adjoining areas of West Midnapur,Bankura and Hooghly......u will definitely observe how democracy is being a farce in the hands of stalinists
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPM's relevence
by mailme alladin on Mar 30, 2009 06:29 PM
Then how Howrah was won by Priyaranjan Dashmushi(Congress) and Dumdum was won by Tapan Sikdar (BJP). How Nandigram is won by TMC this time. Definitely there is rigging in west bengal. but the record shows, fairer the election, higher the winning margin of CPM.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPM's relevence
by Subhabrata Roy on Mar 30, 2009 06:40 PM
Avik 2006 assembly elections was done with highest security for which mamata was also happy.. why in that case CPIM won?
remember 2001 assemble electiosn.. that famous "V" sign shown by her after the election was over just to say that it was a rigged election after she was defeated comprehensively.. There is something called accepting defeat gracefully which is not expected of mamata..
Now coming back to your point of bally in howrah or dumdum, there are locations like Cheltla, kalighat, alipore also where TMC does the same.. So regarding malpractices both TMC and CPIm are opposite sides of same coin.. its only that one party (CPIM) has done blunders for 24 years and understood that and trying to rectify themselves.. the other (TMC) is doing the same mistake what CPIM has done 30 years back.. CPIM drove away industry then.. TMC doing it now.. who suffers .. people of West bengal..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPM's relevence
by Prasenjit Guha on Mar 30, 2009 06:41 PM
Avik, though I am not a supporter of the Left, yet, to rule for 32 years is no joke. It is not because of rigging. They are a very organised lot and TMC and Congress has always been a disjointed lot with Mamata a single leader with others in the team irrelevant.Though TMC might win sone rural seats, however through my visits to many urban areas of West Bengal, I found an undercurrent in the form of: (1) Mamata stopped NANO / industrialisation. (2) She does not believe in discussion, (3) she knows nothing of Economics, (4) She does not have any agenda for development. She has only one motive that is to deprive the left from coming to power. Also all the congress stalwarts are playing a second fiddle to her whims and many ground root cong supporters are really not working with TMC supporters. I don't see her and congress getting more than 20 seats. I may be wrong but then you cannot deny the above points, I have mentioned.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPM's relevence
by Gabby on Mar 30, 2009 06:33 PM
though i hate the Communist reign in Bengal but i think the last time in the assemply polls the CRPF didnt allow any riggings and the CPIM CPI wiped off the entire opposition....
Re: CPM's relevence
by Mayukh Chakraborty on Mar 30, 2009 07:16 PM
...Rigging in election was done earlier; still rigging is going - not only in Bengal but also all over India. IN 2006, Election Commission - done a rigging free election. Mamata Banerjee also accepted it. But the she changed her statement saying - intellectual rigging is going. What a joke...
Ms. Banerjee - can you tell me only 1 thing? WHY YOUR PARTY IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ALL????? WHY?????????
CPM and LF parties have that mass reputation to exist in Bengal for last 32 years and they will also rule in next 32 years... THATS ALL.
Re: CPM's relevence
by Tinku Baidya on Mar 30, 2009 06:36 PM
The by-election showed, whereever CPM won in last time, TMC-CONGRESS has won the same with with 30000 to 40000 margin
Now if you are still dreaming of getting old record, you must have gone mad
Re: Re: CPM's relevence
by mailme alladin on Mar 30, 2009 06:24 PM
Venkat, I don't know you have any idea about West Bengal's geography. CPM performs well in all districts including the onces where there are no/very few refugees like Midnapore, Birbhum, Purulia, Bankura districts. There is no denying there are lots of immigrants from Bangladesh - legally and illegally - but remeber no party can rule a state for 7 terms and that too with this huge majority with the support of just illegal immigrants or just muslims or hindus or just SC/STs or just Bramhins. They need support from all sections of the people.
