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In Bihar, caste is the deciding factor


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ravi kumar
Re: India is democracy and NOT meritocracy.
by ravi kumar on Apr 18, 2009 12:16 PM
New Pork ???

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ramesh s
Re: India is democracy and NOT meritocracy.
by ramesh s on Apr 18, 2009 12:16 PM
i think your brain has already dis-integrated, take some rest

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omkar kale
do u know this?
by omkar kale on Apr 18, 2009 12:08 PM  | Hide replies

One frequently hears that Rajiv Gandhi's
grandfather was
Pandit Nehru. But then we all know that everyone
has two grandfathers,
the paternal and the maternal grandfathers.

In fact, the paternal grandfather is deemed to be
the
more important grandfather in most societies.

Why is it then, nowhere, we find Rajiv Gandhi's
paternal
grandfather' s name? It appears that the reason
is simply. Rajiv
Gandhi's paternal grandfather was a Muslim
gentleman from the Junagadh
area of Gujarat .

This Muslim grocer by the name of Nawab Khan, had
married
a Parsi woman after converting her to Islam.

This is the source where from the myth of Rajiv
being
a Parsi was derived. Rajiv's father Feroze, was
Feroze Khan before he married
Indira, against Kamala Nehru's wishes.

Feroze's mother's family name was Ghandy, often
associated
with Parsis and this was changed to Gandhi,
sometime before his wedding
with Indira, by an affidavit.


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Mainuddin Mahmud
Re: do u know this?
by Mainuddin Mahmud on Apr 18, 2009 12:22 PM
Very much intersting observations. Thanks !!!!!

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Anshuman Patel
Re: do u know this?
by Anshuman Patel on Apr 18, 2009 01:16 PM
What's this obsession with a particular family's past? How long we can live on inventing and re-inventing the past? Is it relevant to the issues being faced today by our country? Can't we spend more time on developmental issues instead of making inane statements on grnadfathers, mothers etc?

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samir mehta
Re: India is democracy and NOT meritocracy.
by samir mehta on Apr 18, 2009 11:55 AM
OK! Ask Muslim and Christian girls to marry Hindu boys.

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Yuyutsu
Re: India is democracy and NOT meritocracy.
by Yuyutsu on Apr 18, 2009 11:58 AM
Lets carry you model further.
All women in your family should be married to people from different religions.This will create religious harmony in the world.

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p
Change with times in culture is important!
by p on Apr 18, 2009 03:11 AM  | Hide replies

So many people blame hinduism for everything. To them I can only say they lack the insight. when the whole world used to have groups of people where everyone would cultivate, and take arms when attacked, Indians devised a system based on division of labor. Idian society prospered.Not everyone was cultivating or fighting. There were goldsmith,traders, carpenters, Musicians,scholars, farmers and fighters. Intercaste mobility was possible if desired.eg Valmiki from shudra to brahmin, or Chandragupta maurya who became from backward to Emperor. When Talent is discounted that's when the real problem arises. Even in mordern era Abedkar was educated by a brahmin family he got the position he deserved. The Goal should be to give people the opportunity to prove themselves rather than keep criticing Hinduism. It is the only religion that allows introspection and change.

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Harish wadhwani
Same story everywhere but we are not learning
by Harish wadhwani on Apr 18, 2009 01:48 AM  | Hide replies

Isn't this the story of every town in India ( except for few states) No power, no roads, no hospital or public transport.. Still the deciding factor is caste.. I am sure once the day come, when people decided on performance and not on other issue, we will shine... in fact we were very close to having performance oriented govt during 2004 ( NDA rule) but people overturned that.. Although NDA came on the religious plank but quickly turned towards development and ask votes based on that.. but we the people of India put the development on the back of mind & Voted recklessly. I wish the days would come back again when you vote for development not for party or caste

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omkar kale
Re: Same story everywhere but we are not learning
by omkar kale on Apr 18, 2009 12:10 PM
development & security too...

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