Re: negative voting.
by ImDharmaraj on Apr 18, 2009 12:05 AM
Yes, you can do that. All you have to do is go to polling booth and sign against your name saying you have registered your presence. Then tell the officer that you do not endorse any of the candidate and he switches off the machine again for next voter. Simply walk out of the booth without pressing any button. This is legal. One advantage of doing this is - nobody can vote in your name by doing some kind of mischief. Otherwise, goons and local muscle men can put in proxy vote in your name. Visit eci.gov.in to check it out.
Re: negative voting.
by mallikarjuna on Apr 17, 2009 11:17 PM
i think election commission wanted to have a none of the above option, but all the political parties negated this suggestion
Re: Re: negative voting.
by virat v on Apr 17, 2009 11:19 PM
there were some rumours last week among election commission staff that the same option might b added this time.
Re: negative voting.
by Ramasubramaniam Iyer on Apr 18, 2009 12:38 AM
Instead of negative voting, the right to exercise or to not exercise should be preserved and below options can be used like the one below which mentions that you dont want to vote because you dont agree with any of the candidates in the election list.
I agree with the PIL. However, the Ballot paper should also have one last slot to cover the provision of the Constitution under Section 49 or something like that i.e. I must be able to express my intention not to cast my vote to any of the canditates listed on the ballot paper as they are not worthy to contest the election. After this, the relevance of compulsory voting would carry weight.
in this election i would like to see every celebrity should cast there vote bcoz in media every time they use to appeal to public, i want media also highlight there sincearity ,i must say this is our right it should not be compalsion,if they are arising this type of question then they should put one option in electronic voting machine,none of the above,if the percentage go above 50% ,all the candidate should bar from candidature for 10 years, then only you can go for this kind of law,this is my personal thinking about vote,then only parties will realise about there tented candidate,and this will creat a goverment for the people, by the people.
BJP doesn't trouble Sardars, Buddhists, Jains and others. Why does BJP target only Muslims and Catholics to a much lesser extent?? This is because these people cannot stay like Indians. They force people to either accept their religion (Catholics) or kill those who do not accept (Muslims). Fools might say that Catholics offer help to people whom they convert. But bear in mind that many many Indians, Jains for sure offer help and charity to people. But they don't force people to convert. That is selfless help. Catholics have a nasty motive in their charity. BJP is one party among many which opposes this practice of Muslims and Catholics. What is wrong?? If these castes learn to behave why will anybody trouble them?? Congress on the other hand has no morals. Just to keep their votebank and be in power and support Vatican by diverting Indian money raised through corruption, they are appeasing Catholics and Muslims in the name of Seclarism. But dumb and naive Hindus will fall for it and continue to vote for Congress. Alas, India will always fail as long as Congress stays in power
Re: Why BJP and NOT Congress
by Robert Joseph on Apr 17, 2009 11:38 PM
I bet you are the kind of person who s h a g g s in front of you pc and write about helping poor and needy. Do something in real life. Get a Life!
Re: Why BJP and NOT Congress
by amit prakash on Apr 17, 2009 11:07 PM
u moron read history first ,from 1000 AD till now and u will learn how many musl. emperors and other raiders have converted hindus into their religion.its not even mentioned properly in the history books as history was controlled by them.
Re: Why BJP and NOT Congress
by akvats on Apr 17, 2009 11:03 PM
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE TRUE STORY OF OUR NATION. Congress is only supported by the people who want their communities to be empowered. These elements have no interest in India to grow.
Re: Re: Why BJP and NOT Congress
by avdhesh vats on Apr 17, 2009 11:10 PM
India is a democratic country. People caste their vote just because they want a leader of their own choice. What a joke of this democracy. People get a leader of the country for whom they have not caste even a single Vote. GREAT JOKE OF THE GREAT DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY.
As long as PM is inserted, he is not accountable.....to the nation, why I should vote? PM, Man Mohan Singh never faced people to win the election, but he is meeting legal requirements to be PM.
He should have contested election where he is born or lived or served. He don't do it.
Constitution is absent on natural citizen to rule the country.US constitution correctly defined it.Any immoral Foreign national can corrupt PM's children to marry and capture the power without patriotism. I don't want these elements to rule the country. But they rule. In protest, I can avoid voting.
Re: As long as PM is inserted, he is not accountable.....
by mallikarjuna on Apr 17, 2009 11:20 PM
for your info, he doesnt even vote. once he was in assam, from where he is a voter, during some elections but didnt vote citing security problems. just imagine, security problems for the PM of India
it seems the people who are not voting either donot know the real meaning of their right to vote or correctly know their right. today when i was standing in q to vote i felt ashame of me. i know every person and what, how they did it all but then also i am selecting an ineligble person to be m.l.a or m.p. there should be a opion no one is sutiable. in such circumstances we can have compulsary voteing system becuase we can also annouce by our right to vote that none of them are eligible to be selected
No body can compel a voter to vote,If it is made compulsory then his right is also being encroched.As a democratic citizen he will decide to vote or not to vote.Exclusively his choice.
why is supreme court finding it so difficult to establish a mode of compulsion. we can compel people to vote in variety of ways.
1. first make PAN card compulsary for all citizens. 2.note down the PAN card number of every voter when voter comes for voting. 3. these will be fed to the income tax database. 4. those who did not vote can be fined Rs 1000. which they will have to pay when they file their tax return. OR those who voted can be rewarded with Rs 1000,which they can collect from any state run bank in the consituency, the income tax dept. will give the bank a list of those who voted from that constituency and their pan card number.
This is how we can enforce compulsary voting. it requires honest and extensive use and interlinkage of I.T / e-governance
Re: why is it so difficult to decide the mode of compulsion ?
by Prashant Gabhane on Apr 17, 2009 10:43 PM
bhai mere sabke liye agar dal-bhat ka bandobast ho jaaye yehi bahut hai. PAN card k liye paise kharch karne k liye hum aur tum jaise log hi hain. jo kai dino tak theek se kha nahi paate agar woh vote dene nahi aaye toa unke kis account se paisa katoge.
1st we should get back to basics that what do we want from our politicians and vote voluntarily. yeh kaam danda marke nahi hota jaise teacher students se home work karwate hain.
Re: why is it so difficult to decide the mode of compulsion ?
by venkat apparao on Apr 17, 2009 10:51 PM
Rs.1000 per each vote? where will u get that 50,000 crores for 50 crore voter to give as a reward. Think before u comment.
Final Tally might be something like this BJP-145 with allies-Akali,JDU,Shiv sena,AGP etc. i.e. NDA-145 plus 40=185 Cong-130 with allies-NCP,RJD,LJP,SP,DMK etc. (assuming RJD,SP,LJP,NCP stay together) i.e. UPA-130 plus 45=175
Others BSP-35 AIADMK/MDMK/PMK-25 Communists-45 All others (BJD,TDP,PR independents-78
The interesting scenario will be TDP,AIADMK,and even BJD are all anti-cong. they will have to support NDA to keep Cong. out ..and with their sum around 45 NDA comes to 185 plus 45=230... all others smaller ones and independents will fall for NDA and it comes to power..
This is what i think , don't be abusive..simply write what u think.
Re: final tally
by Ashish on Apr 17, 2009 10:36 PM
Guess work sometime turns out to be correct sometime not.But BJD's deperture has created a problem.But AIADMK,TDPand BJD have problem to support congress.So a lot of activities may be seen after election,so another lame duck Govt.we are going to get.
Re: final tally
by Prashant Gabhane on Apr 17, 2009 10:45 PM
is jungle raaj mein koi kisi ka ally ya dushman nahi hai.. every politician has kept his options open for POST poll alliance.
Re: final tally
by BhejaFry on Apr 17, 2009 10:32 PM
cong may get 130 , but its allies NCP,RJD,LJP,SP,DMK will get slightly more around 60. plus if you add communist 35 seats,UPA becomes 225.
NDA will be around 190 ( 145 BJP 45 Allies), they can bank on BJD,TDP,AIADML i.e around 45 seats , which is 235.
Re: final tally
by kavitha on Apr 17, 2009 10:30 PM
this is begining of end for indis if NDA comes to power. majority indians hate these bunch of idiots
Re: Re: final tally
by Prashant Gabhane on Apr 17, 2009 10:48 PM
I think u love those political parties who r not keen or interested in bringing back the BLACK money around 70 lakh crores deposited by various Indians in Swiss account. It means CONGRESS leaders r the one who have loads of money in swiss account.
Re: final tally
by Guest on Apr 17, 2009 10:45 PM
I think u are almost there! Only some fine tuning is required and it will be very interesting whether the President will invite NDA to form the Government as BJP will emerge as the single largest party in the Lok Sabha!
Re: final tally
by Nitin Mehta on Apr 17, 2009 10:33 PM
Sc has done the right thing . Otherwise they will even demand 50-100 rupees as bribe for not casting vote. Not casting vote is my right and SC has given a sound judgment
