Gone through most of the comments in this discussion, and shockingly I find some people talking utter nonsense here.. What does religion have to do with this discussion, how come lewd comments on politicians are relevant here? Some does not even bother to check their words.... If this represents the current Indians, I can only pray to God to take care of this country. (Funnily enough some idiots will ask me which God I pray, some will say in bitter words to stop me being a moral teacher.) I don't want to be so, my fellow friends, if you really want to change India, start with yourself. First learn to behave, then comment on anything, and please don't forget, the discussion forum here reflects the mindset of the Indians to the world. Do read all the comments in a very neutral way and judge for yourself, am I wrong? (Some comments are really good and thought provoking, my comments does not include them, unfortunately, most of the comments are utter nonsense and nothing the personal and political attacks. Can't people express their views in a better way instead of using abusive and dirty language? Can we make our politicians behave well if we behave in this manner? Sorry, I am really very disappointed.. May God bless all of us with kindness and manners.)
"Vidya dadati vinayam"-our forefathers said this.... not any other nations...
Re: the amazing people of India
by JGN on Apr 17, 2009 12:01 AM
shanti, have some "shanti" after reading this news:
Thu, Apr 16 01:04 PM
Islamabad, April 16 (IANS) Pakistan's Sikh community has been forced to pay Rs.20 million as 'jizia' (tax) to the Taliban so as to return to their homes and resume business, a newspaper said Thursday.
The minority Sikh community Wednesday met the Taliban demand in return for 'protection' in Orakzai Agency in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, the Daily Times reported.
The Taliban then released Sikh leader Sardar Saiwang Singh and vacated the community's houses. The militia announced that the Sikhs were now free to live anywhere in the area.
'They also announced protection for the Sikh community, saying no one would harm them after they paid jizia. Sikhs who had left the agency would now return to their houses and resume business,' an official said.
Re: Re: the amazing people of India
by Ashwin Ramaswamy on Apr 17, 2009 12:04 AM
that does not mean we have to behave in an uncivilised manner and use dirty language almost every post
Re: the amazing people of India
by Ashwin Ramaswamy on Apr 17, 2009 12:03 AM
You said it right Shanti . Your name fits you perfectly - peaceful nature . We Indians are giving our politicians a run for their money with the language which we use here .
Re: Re: the amazing people of India
by JGN on Apr 17, 2009 12:06 AM
Ashwin, we can criticize any one so long as "H1ndus" are in majority in India, no matter which party rules. Pl read the news report posted by me also.
Re: y one should vote the party which is against ther religion ?
by Mohammad Rampyari on Apr 16, 2009 11:42 PM
WHy should one follow a religion that is against the party?
Re: Re: y one should vote the party which is against ther religio
by smash on Apr 16, 2009 11:44 PM
coool,, islam is against BJP,,, so now onwords don't follow islaaaaam...
What happens to rediff God knows. Suddenly so many idiots are thronging the message board with useless and meaningless comments and posting. Not a single intelligent message or analysis can be seen. There is an all round decay in rediff message board. God save rediff and its readers.
Re: y its always 50-60% of voting ?
by Loan Shark on Apr 16, 2009 11:33 PM
just that some people are lazy ... and others dont think their single vote makes much of a difference
Re: Re: y its always 50-60% of voting ?
by JGN on Apr 16, 2009 11:38 PM
No,many a times the voters are out of station or incapacitated (like ill-ness, too old, etc)!
Re: Re: y its always 50-60% of voting ?
by RESHMI R on Apr 16, 2009 11:44 PM
did u forgot about millions of people who are pouring in money by working outside the country and those working outside their home town to make a leaving.What can they do to cast their votes
Re: Re: Re: y its always 50-60% of voting ?
by smash on Apr 16, 2009 11:47 PM
so it means same set of people voting for eevry election.... so do you election needed to select our PM and ministers ? its already known then we spend so much money on election ????
What is black empowerment when it seems to benefit not the vast majority but an elite that tends to be recycled? - Desmond Tutu ........the same applies to India. Where is the "dalit" empowerment when it benefits only a few already rich "dalits" only? Ms. Mayawati and other leaders are just befooling the poor dalits.
Re: Great co-incidence!!
by Loan Shark on Apr 16, 2009 11:30 PM
so, do you have a better and practical solution to this problem?
the truth is that reservation has helped a lot of dalits get educated and get good paying jobs ... now those dalits should step out of the way and let others benefit, but they wont
Re: Re: Great co-incidence!!
by aaaa on Apr 16, 2009 11:33 PM
reservation should be economic lifestyle based rather than caste,creed or religion...I know poor intelligent bhramins whi had to compromise on their ambitions bcoz of reservations...iam not pointing one community or caste here but it should be more financial driven than on religion and caste
Re: Re: Re: Great co-incidence!!
by Loan Shark on Apr 16, 2009 11:34 PM
good point ... but need a yardstick to measure lifestyle and income ... except salaried people, no one's income is known ... not at least if they dont file taxes
Re: Re: Re: Great co-incidence!!
by vinay bunty on Apr 16, 2009 11:37 PM
Reservations-based-on-economic-status seems to be more logical and idealistic but it’s like using an ointment to cure cancer. You are healing the wound, but the wound is just a symptom of far deeper problem inside the body. That deeper problem in our case is caste. How can one ignore that discrimination which was carried out for centuries is the root cause, and that this discrimination was based on caste?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Great co-incidence!!
by Loan Shark on Apr 16, 2009 11:52 PM
reservation cannot cure that cancer of discrimination ...only good education can
Re: Re: Great co-incidence!!
by JGN on Apr 16, 2009 11:36 PM
Reservation is not the only solution. Let the Govt provide free education to all atleast till the level of graduation and also prvide specail "Tuitions" for the dalits so that they can compete with any one.
Re: Re: Re: Great co-incidence!!
by Loan Shark on Apr 16, 2009 11:39 PM
who is govt? who pays the bill? the tax-payers? so, instead of losing 40% of my income to taxes, I would lose 50% ... maybe 60% ... right?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Great co-incidence!!
by JGN on Apr 16, 2009 11:57 PM
The Govt is already collecting Education Cess. What has that money disappeared?? Who benefits from that?
RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD Taoism: Shit happens. Hinduism: This shit happened before. Confucianism: Confucius say "Shit happens". Buddhism: If shit happens, it isn't really shit. --- Zen: What is the sound of shit happening? Islam: If shit happens, it is the will of Allah. Jehova's Witness: knock, knock, "Shit happens". Athiesm: There is no shit. Agnosticism: I don't know whether shit happens. Protestantism: Shit won't happen if I work harder. Catholicism: If shit happens, I deserved it. Judiaism: Why does shit always happen to us? TV evangelists: Send us more shit. Jedi Knights: May the shit be with you.
Re: Re: Religionsssssssss
by Loan Shark on Apr 16, 2009 11:32 PM
the dalits have been the target of class attrocities in h1nduism ... so dalits do not really give a sh1t about h1nduism .. tot hem, it is just a religion for the upper caste to bully the lower catse
Re: Re: ....
by vinay bunty on Apr 16, 2009 11:30 PM
"All truth passes through three paths: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident"
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ....
by Loan Shark on Apr 16, 2009 11:43 PM
US has been one of the most, if not the most, innovative countries in the world. the govt. policies change
for example, he is already allowing cubans to go visit cuba and send unlimited remitances ... soon, he will open tourism to cuba.
so, the 50 year old policies since the bay-of-p1gs and missile crisis are finally coming to an end
