Indian politics is going through a transition period. The things will start getting stabilised after a decade when BJP really becomes a very dominant party through the constructive work being carried out by RSS. Today people say that BJP is losing ground. However, they forget that this is the only national party which has grown after independance. That is the reason I say it will take some more time for the things to get stabilised.
Re: Re: Transition period
by satishchandra on Apr 14, 2009 05:33 PM
Nitish already shared platform with Advani a few days back. Please don't go on the base of only electronic media's openions. I am very much RSS man. You may not be aware that even Lalu privately hepls RSS. His main opposition is to BJP because he does not want to give any room for these organisations politically. This was the case also with Ramakrishna Hegde in Karnataka.
Re: Re: Re: Transition period
by hanif muhammed on Apr 14, 2009 06:16 PM
RSS is not the problem. RSS mentality is the problem. Only thing is you cannot counter RSS mentality because Pakistan and Bangladesh are in existence
Re: Re: Re: Transition period
by Prashant Mardolkar on Apr 14, 2009 05:39 PM
Advaniji ki baat nahi kar raha hun yaar, he is d last men in you, who has still some crediability left. and sure Arun jaitely, but I doubt he will be with you for next election
Re: Re: Re: Re: Transition period
by satishchandra on Apr 14, 2009 06:28 PM
I don't understand why my reply has been deleted by moderator. There was nothing objectional in it either wordly or principally.
Re: Re: Transition period
by Against Pseudos on Apr 14, 2009 05:27 PM
Good point... and this is precisely why BJP needs to strenghthen further on its own... Anyway, 1984 to 2009 is a relatively short journey, and they'll learn and grow in future
Only STRONG leaders like NARENDRA MODI can SAVE INDIA. We were once called Golden Bird and the richest in world. But now see what have happened to us in 50 years family regime of Neheru family.
Re: SAVE INDIA
by Bharat Bharat on Apr 14, 2009 05:33 PM
who given the vote, your father, grand father and so...
I agree he is a strong but in which department ? I think he is best suited for country destruction portfolio...
Party who plays religious politics can never save you or India, because once they finish fighting with minorities, they start their politics on SC, ST...you know the same hindu caste system...
Dont expect too much from them becuase they are leaders of destruction and not construction.
Re: Re: Re: SAVE INDIA
by Bharat Bharat on Apr 14, 2009 05:37 PM
Golden bird was looted by britishers...when you got freedom, this bird was without wings and congress provided wings to it. Don't feel great when you hear "India is on the way to economic power"
Re: Seats Predictions for NDA/BJP
by premraja on Apr 14, 2009 05:36 PM
one seat in tamil nadu. Are you joking. BJP will lose deposit in all seats here . may be in one or two they wil come close to saving it. That is all they can manage in TN And Pondicherry
Re: Re: Seats Predictions for NDA/BJP
by Nilayan Mukherjee on Apr 14, 2009 05:24 PM
when have u escaped from the cage?. All the zoowalas are vigorously ferreting you as antics of your ilk will fetch them zillions of money.
Re: Seats Predictions for NDA/BJP
by jay sharma on Apr 14, 2009 05:25 PM
hahahaha....this person is really a fool....prediction could be right for 1-2 states but its totally a political prediction by a BJP supporter.
Re: Seats Predictions for NDA/BJP
by anant sethi on Apr 14, 2009 05:39 PM
U.P : 18/80 (BJP RLD) Bihar : 24/40 (BJP JDU) WB : 01 /42 ( 01 Tapan sikar seat Jaswant Singh seat) Maharastra : 22/48 (BJP ShivSena) Andhra : 01 /42 (01 in Telegana region 01 Hyd) Tamil Nadu : 01/39 (02 Seats won in 1999 winnability Factor is high) M.P : 22/29 Karnataka : 15/28 Gujarat : 18/26 Orissa : 4/21 Rajasthan : 14/25 Kerala : 01/20 (For 3 seats in Kerala i.e.Trivandrum, Palakad & Kasorkode winnability factory is very high, One seat is sure) Jharkand : 07/14 (BJP JDU) Punjab : 7/13 (BJP Akali Dal) Chattisgarh : 7/11 Haryana : 6/10 (BJP LD) Delhi : 5/7 Uttaranchal 4/5 J & K 1/6 Himachal : 3/4 Tripura : 0/2 Assam : 9/14 (BJP AGP) Goa 1/2 NE & UT : 1
NDA may get approximately 200 seats. It will be great if Congress and BJP join hands and form a very strong Govt. Afterall we want to see India Shining and Aaam admi doing great simultaneously.
Re: Re: Re: Seats Predictions for NDA/BJP
by Against Pseudos on Apr 14, 2009 05:33 PM
OK.. on behalf of Hanif I beg your pardon and hereby restate the numbers.. NDA and BJP are going to get ZERO votes this election.... And I am going to play cricket as per your suggestion... :)
Re: Congress Chorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..................
by Karunakar Patil on Apr 14, 2009 05:11 PM
NOT as Idiot as any BJP men like King ogf Idiots Modi & Adwani
Re: Re: Congress Chorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..................
by Prem Mohan on Apr 14, 2009 05:21 PM
Correct! All Indians have full faith in the leadership of Mdm Sonia Gandhi, Dr Manmohan Singh and Mr Rahul Gandhi.
Re: Re: Re: Congress Chorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...............
by Against Pseudos on Apr 14, 2009 05:24 PM
Pyare:
You forgot Priyanka Gandhi and Robert Vadera.... such blasphemy is never tolerated in Kaangress... you can be booked under NSA... Another issue with your message is the name of Manmohan Singh ahead of Rahul Baba... This will cause a severe dirsuption in civil harmony and longevity of Kaangress whereby you will be sentenced for life
Re: Re: Congress Chorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..................
by Ravi Thakur on Apr 14, 2009 05:19 PM
Kitne paise mile hain bhai Tujhe gun gaan karne ko???
Re: Congress Chorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..................
by Bharatwasi on Apr 14, 2009 05:33 PM
First decide whether congress is chor or idiot. An idiot can't be a chor. Dr. Singh is either not Congressman or is not honest! The problem with BJP is they don't have right strategy to defend themselves and attack congress. By playing with words, nobody is going to vote BJP. Congress on the other hand is playing smart cards, even though they are full of lies. For example, Rahul Gandhi's attack on Advani regarding Kandahar is completely absurd. This is because BJP govt. did the correct thing by rescuing 200 civilians from Kandahar. Congress is not able to efficiently handle terrorists in Mumbai (took 10 hrs to start operation and 3 days to complete it) and they are talking about carrying out operation in Kandahar. But, the point is it highlights Advani in poor light and serves its purpose of damaging Advani's image. Whereas Varun like issues are completely irrelevant to common people and people may not vote BJP. I support BJP to some extent. But, RSS wings are likely to bring BJP from 150 to 2 again (where they started). They lost UP because of hard line Hindutva and they will loose country if they don't clearly send the correct and original meaning of Hindutva. Hindutva represents the spirit of being Indian because Hindu actually means Indian (not religion). Hinduism is the result of sharing of various beliefs, traditions, cultures and values.
Re: Re: Congress Chorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..................
by hanif muhammed on Apr 14, 2009 06:09 PM
Bharatwasi,
Very good post indeed. I would not want BJP to be weak because it makes the wrong kinds in my community strong. But because of extreme hatred mentality that some do show (Varun Gandhi, Ananth Kumar Hegde live examples in this times election campaign) ordinary indians (bharatwasis) are forced to think of Congress or regional parties only. Vajpayee led by example but the present BJP has no such towering personality. Maybe Arun Jaitely later..
In my opinion Regional parties should be allowed to contest elections State Assemblies but must align with a national party, a party having presence in at least 80% of the constituencies (even then it will have to win 63% of seats contested) during National Elections.
Major fallacy in today's elections is is that when a candidate gets 30% votes to win a seat, we must remember that 70% voted against that candidate, so where is the majority. Indian system is flawed. India needs a complete overhaul of its electoral process.
India is moving toward a natural two/three party system but maturing may take too long at this crucial juncture of uncertain economic conditions and world order.
Looking at what is happening, some serious questions arises: 1. Will democracy survive in India? 2. Will India itself survive as a single nation? 3. Should there be regional parties at all? 4. Should not there be minimum education level for the candidates? 5. Like in all other jobs, should not there be retirement age for politicians?
Re: Some questions
by AJ Kumar on Apr 14, 2009 05:11 PM
If Politicians became educated then officers (IAS, IPS, IFS etc.) can not run the country as they want. They want politicians to remain uneducated so they can control them in all aspects including corruption.
Re: Some questions
by Rahul Date on Apr 14, 2009 05:10 PM
Good assessment 1) Unless there is Uniform Civil Code India will not survive for long 2) Unless there is firm security policy in place india will have problems 3) Till the time indian politics is appeasement driven future is bleak...
But out of this mess BJP if elected for next 10-15 yrs there is some hope...
Re: Re: Some questions
by Karunakar Patil on Apr 14, 2009 05:13 PM
odhra riots, Orrisa Kandhmaal killings, Kandhaar Hijack episode.Terror attack on Parliament. Babri demolition & subsequent riots all over India. Several 1000 crores siphonig out from India in Reliance Infocomm license. On all counts BJP is better
Re: Re: Re: Some questions
by Against Pseudos on Apr 14, 2009 05:19 PM
Patil:
Except for Kandhamal, which is essentially a law and order problem (nothing remotely suggests the active hand of BJP in it), all other issues you quote are at least a decade old..
Lets look towards the future instead of living in the past. Else you'd be stuck for your life in Babri, 1962, 1975, 1984, Rajiv opening Babri doors, and various communal riots that shocked and rattled the country during the last 60 years, including Gujarat (at least 12 if I remember correctly)and Amarnath..
Vote For BJP Save India The article seems to be pointing flaws in all the parties. But Indian politics is based on appeasement / vote bank politics which will anyways ruin India in near future..
But out of all BJP seems to be better anyday as they have some rashtra prem left which is not seen in other parties at all...
Re: British Gave US Freedom Congress Divided US Again
by Karunakar Patil on Apr 14, 2009 05:09 PM
Godhra riots, Orrisa Kandhmaal killings, Kandhaar Hijack episode.Terror attack on Parliament. Babri demolition & subsequent riots all over India. Several 1000 crores siphonig out from India in Reliance Infocomm license. On all counts BJP is better
Re: Re: British Gave US Freedom Congress Divided US Again
by Against Pseudos on Apr 14, 2009 05:15 PM
Patil:
Except for Kandhamal, which is essentially a law and order problem (nothing remotely suggests the active hand of BJP in it), all other issues you quote are at least a decade old..
Lets look towards the future instead of living in the past. Else you'd be stuck for your life in Babri, 1962, 1975, 1984, Rajiv opening Babri doors, and various communal riots that shocked and rattled the country during the last 60 years, including Gujarat (at least 12 if I remember correctly)and Amarnath..
Re: Re: Re: British Gave US Freedom Congress Divided US Again
by Prashant Mardolkar on Apr 14, 2009 05:20 PM
Ram sene is also law and order problem! how cho chweat! pseudoji, you are becoming pathatic
