Nothing will change whoever comes to power.But it is not good for the country if somebody forms the govt with a weak coalition.The real problem of our country is we have strong regional leaders and very weak national leaders.
Re: Will there be change
by Against Pseudos on Apr 14, 2009 05:54 PM
Absolutely agree.... The nation is held to ransom for a few personal egos...
As was evident when Amar Singh forwarded his conditional support to MMS recently... Let me tell you though I don't support Kaangress at all, they would have been much better and we Indians would have fared much better under a totally Kaangress government. Same goes for BJP as well - though we haven't even seen a pure BJP government yet, but on similar logic they'd fare much better too...
Governing a country is difficult enough without paying heed to the daily tantrums of the Ramadosses, Mamtas, Mullayams, Paswans, Pawar egos, Naidus, Jayas, Mayas and the rest of them...
They are good for state governance no doubt, but must for the greater good stay away from the national scene...
Re: Re: Will there be change
by shashi sharma on Apr 14, 2009 06:29 PM
well said pseudo . yes it is very bad that national parties are dependent on regional parties . This happened because the congress shrunk very quickly in 1990s and BJP though grew but could not keep pace result was that a vast stretch of country chose small regional parties which in turn increased the dependence on small parties .. Hopefuly this trend will change .
All our prayers with him , india has to grow now , god will not stop this because MMS is PM All minorites will vote for MMS All Secular Hindus will vote for him All Tech guys will vote for MMS All share market will vote for MMS All Business people who have money want MMS
Whoever want Advani or Cobler Mayaboti or Item girl Jaya lolito are anti indian and anti india growth story .
Re: MMS will win because
by Ram R on Apr 14, 2009 07:15 PM
Mouth piece of Cong. MMS is a good person, but here is vote for PARTY. Stupid, MMS is a just tool in hands of white Lady. A sign of slavery of all like you. Only issue is between3, Congress, or BJP or Third Front/ communist. As I said earlier, between BAD, WORST and USELESS. Grow and stop cheap publicity through this message board.
Re: MMS will win because
by Subbu on Apr 14, 2009 06:01 PM
All our prayers with him , = who cannot take his own decisions. india has to grow now , god will not stop this because MMS is PM- Not India, kangree ldrs woud grow, and God will not be able to stop MMS, because italy bar attender is chairman of kangres. All minorites will vote for MMS- who wud be once again be cheated /brainwashed by simple vote bank policies, nothing else. All Secular Hindus will vote for him-Here not at all, becuase all secular hindus have started to fear unsecular now. All Tech guys will vote for MMS= Tech guys have seen the fast development in Gujarat and had already decided to whom they should vote. All share market will vote for MMS= Let the share market grow first beyond 11000 points atleast. All Business people who have money want MMS= Ha ha they have realised the mistake they have commited during last election, regretting, and decided to correct the mistake this time.
The people should vote for any party except for bhagwa forces who will ruin this country. Their sole purpose for the last 100 years is to grab power at Delhi by any means. Thousands of innocents people have been killed and raped by RSS/BJP/VHP/Bajrang dal people. These are highly trained people to start and take part in riots. In the name of vegetarianism, appeasement, yoga, surya namaskar, vandematram, etc., these people want to divert attention and take the country to old stone age where people use to kill each other to grab power. The day these forces come to power country will be more divided and weakened.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Against Pseudos on Apr 14, 2009 06:06 PM
Let her make a fool of herself.... she'll go quiet after a while... . She actually wants us to make those inflammatory comments so that she can feed off that and drive the discussion board in a totally unwanted direction...
Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Rahul Date on Apr 14, 2009 05:51 PM
Dear Javed, Nothing personal however for any Muslim to even talk even about this is absurd You should have read one article i forgot by one frenchman recently which says no hindu can be a terrorist...My advise 1st study Mugal history & then comment.
My point is whats wrong in asking for one temple In India...i am sure even ur forefathers were once hindus...
Re: Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Deve Gowda on Apr 14, 2009 05:59 PM
harry , sabbu should have born when we had british rule , they would know what world we are leaving now. DONT LET US DIVIDE BY ADWANI AND HIS MEN
Re: Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Javed Khan on Apr 14, 2009 05:55 PM
Millions of years back people use to wear leaves on their body. If Advasis are doing that today, you do not belong to be Adivasi. False practices have been corrected by humans from thousands of years.
Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Bharatwasi on Apr 14, 2009 06:08 PM
JK. Your post only shows you have little knowledge about Hindus, RSS and about India itself. Unknown is always is fearsome. You fear Hundus because you don't understand and refuse the beauty of Hinduism that respects all beliefs. You will only find "Julus" and the kind of celebrations in India, not in other parts of the world. Only in India, you will find Hindus visiting Durgas and St. Mary Church. This is simply because they respect all faiths. The trouble is when you start considering Hindus as competitors and show disrespect to Hinduism. Rape, riots and killings are criminal offences and they are taken care by judicial system. If you have genuine evidence, come forward and punish the culprits. Indians will welcome that! But, why Afzal is not hanged yet, despite SC judgement? This disrespect to SC and judicial system always happened in Congress Governments, not BJP
Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Sudheendra BM on Apr 14, 2009 06:37 PM
Javed Khan, Vegetarianism is proved good through out the world and so as Surya namaskar. As far as Vande mataram is concrned, there is nothing wrong in soluting one's mother land if you understand the real meaning of that anthem. When are you going to understand that so called Muslim protector's of this country like Bhallo, Mullayam, Red monkeys and also some in Characterless(congress)are simply trying to lure votes from Muslim community and do nothing in practical for them? There is development in Gujarat, why can't you accept it and it is for all communities. The development is not for a particular community. Get your mind set right first.
Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Twister on Apr 14, 2009 05:56 PM
Vegetarianism, yoga, surya namaskar...are getting very popular in the western countries also. You mean to say they are moving toward stone age? Hahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaha you are a clown man. Stop talking like ou are biased against H1ndooism in general.
Re: Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Against Pseudos on Apr 14, 2009 05:58 PM
Twister:
I think this is just another trouble monger who flirt and lurk here without any specific purpose other than whipping up some comments out of the rest of us...
Re: Re: Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Javed Khan on Apr 14, 2009 06:01 PM
What is rest of us? You are asking vote for most dangerous and destructive politician this Country ever had, i.e., Advani/Modi. Advani's only achievement is demolishion of Babri Mosque and then riots which killed thousands of innocent people allover India and then another achievent of supporting full fledge as home minister on the genocide of Gujurat. What type of human you are?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Subbu on Apr 14, 2009 06:10 PM
JK u are simply forgetting the attrocities done to our country during the mughuls, and what all were achieved demolition of temples and killing innocent. What about the godhra case? earlier they were keeping quite, but now started to react, and you are feeling the heat, fear, which makes your verbal dairiya vomitting here.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Bharatwasi on Apr 14, 2009 06:09 PM
JK. Your post only shows you have little knowledge about Hindus, RSS and about India itself. Unknown is always is fearsome. You fear Hundus because you don't understand and refuse the beauty of Hinduism that respects all beliefs. You will only find "Julus" and the kind of celebrations in India, not in other parts of the world. Only in India, you will find Hindus visiting Durgas and St. Mary Church. This is simply because they respect all faiths. The trouble is when you start considering Hindus as competitors and show disrespect to Hinduism. Rape, riots and killings are criminal offences and they are taken care by judicial system. If you have genuine evidence, come forward and punish the culprits. Indians will welcome that! But, why Afzal is not hanged yet, despite SC judgement? This disrespect to SC and judicial system always happened in Congress Governments, not BJP!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Against Pseudos on Apr 14, 2009 06:08 PM
JK:
I am a good human, thank you very much.... but you need to recheck on what type of human you are.... that's why we've left your message on the board instead of marking it for abuse... So re-read it, and ponder over your thoughts a bit.... :)
Re: Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Javed Khan on Apr 14, 2009 05:58 PM
99% Hindus eat meat and chicken, they only make propaganda of vetetariansm to spread their religion.
Re: Re: Re: Destructive BHP/VHP/RSS
by Meenakshi Gupta on Apr 14, 2009 06:24 PM
You are wrong..theres a sizeable quantity of H1ndus who are vegetarian and religiously following that even abroad. Please stop making ridiculous accusations.
Re: What has Congress done in 50 Yrs ??
by suyash rawle on Apr 14, 2009 06:13 PM
u know the root cause of indias division? hindu mahasabha's demand for hindu rashtra,ignoring sacrifice of muslims & others.even motive was to safeguard brahmins to rule over other castes.now tell was jinnah,mahatma responsible for division or mahasabha?this is real history.post independence who got excess to education?only brahmins even if abnormal brahmin could sit in school classes others were not allowed to?if u talk of moghul era or before then brahmins were supposed to be walking with qualms in hands bhikshandeyi?enough or want more?join national movement.
We have seen 50 years of Congree rule and seen Bharat divided in pieces with no direction and vision. Congree has brought us the "SLUMDOG" title by openly adopting JAI HO. NDA in its five years gave HOPE to people by putting Bharat on path of development and prosperity. We thought it was due to circumstances but it was largely BJPs policies. Despite few instances, they were largely successful. IMO, NDA should be given a chance again since it is party of leaders not puppets. LK Advani seems to be promising by laying out his policies and emphasizing on being SWADESI. We have a better future with NDA than UPA.
Re: NDA deserves to be back again
by Deve Gowda on Apr 14, 2009 05:44 PM
Sorry , we love MMS than communal leader Advani or cobler queen Mayaboti , item girl jaya milita.. MMS zindabad
Re: NDA deserves to be back again
by shukla on Apr 14, 2009 05:45 PM
r u out of ur senses? was it congress who made this movie :D yaar atlest put some logical reason and if u dont have any make it simple juss say that ur a blind follower and u r here to promote ur party it wud b easier :D
Re: Re: NDA deserves to be back again
by hari kumar on Apr 14, 2009 05:49 PM
Congress never made the movie.But the party has the right intentions to keep the country poor and illiterate unless who will vote for the party lead by the dump clan.
Re: Re: Re: NDA deserves to be back again
by Deve Gowda on Apr 14, 2009 05:51 PM
HARRY , PLEASE STOP COMMUNAL HATE HERE MAN , WE ALL ARE INDIAN AND DONT THINK LIKE BUSH
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NDA deserves to be back again
by suyash rawle on Apr 14, 2009 06:21 PM
so why r u barking like dog? advanis beta kya?rathyatra ke zamane ka?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NDA deserves to be back again
by Against Pseudos on Apr 15, 2009 05:20 AM
Rawle:
I am merely making a statement... with you on the forum, why the heck do I need to bark?... ;-) You do that enough to suffice for all of us combined... :)
Re: Re: NDA deserves to be back again
by karuna tiwari on Apr 14, 2009 07:06 PM
But it was congress who made "SLUM" and alloud film-makers to make the Slum People "DOG".....
All the English media channels are competing with each other in a concerted effort to promote Sonia Maino, Raul Vinci & Priyanka Robert, the most pathetic trio ever to lead a party in Indian polity. The stammering,stuttering & moronic statements of the 'Queen','Prince in waiting' & 'Princess in waiting' are beamed relentlessly on the television screens to the mortified millions of the country.The dumbest trio harbouring ambitions to become the PM of India is an affront to the citizens of the country. Watching TV has become a torture with the images of the Sonia clan wallowing in their medoicrity staring at you all the time.
Re: Media effort to promote Sonia clan
by suyash rawle on Apr 14, 2009 06:24 PM
why r u so jeolous?people will not like to see barking dog advani again & again.
Re: Media effort to promote Sonia clan
by Paramatma on Apr 14, 2009 05:47 PM
and if those stammering,stuttering voices r not enuff, we get to hear the hoarse, old and rash speeches of advani or cheap statements of modi...all r equally pathetic...
Re: Re: Media effort to promote Sonia clan
by Against Pseudos on Apr 14, 2009 05:59 PM
Parramatta:
Fair enough... you don't like some voices, others don't like other voices... But the conduct of many or most of those channels is far from giving unbiased views .. that's an open secret
The problem with BJP is they don't have right strategy to defend themselves and attack congress. By playing with words, nobody is going to vote BJP. Congress on the other hand is playing smart cards, even though they are full of lies. For example, Rahul Gandhi's attack on Advani regarding Kandahar is completely absurd. This is because BJP govt. did the correct thing by rescuing 200 civilians from Kandahar. Congress is not able to efficiently handle terrorists in Mumbai (took 10 hrs to start operation and 3 days to complete it) and they are talking about carrying out operation in Kandahar. But, the point is it highlights Advani in poor light and serves its purpose of damaging Advani's image. Whereas Varun like issues are completely irrelevant to common people and people may not vote BJP. I support BJP to some extent. But, RSS wings are likely to bring BJP from 150 to 2 again (where they started). They lost UP because of hard line Hindutva and they will loose country if they don't clearly send the correct and original meaning of Hindutva. Hindutva represents the spirit of being Indian because Hindu actually means Indian (not religion). Hinduism is the result of sharing of various beliefs, traditions, cultures and values. Voting congress is perhaps not going to change the world. Congress only dared that under the leadership of Narsimha Rao and Congress lost elections in 1996. Since then even Dr. Singh is more "subsidy" man rather than "reforms" man.
Re: Analysis of problems in Indian politics
by Bharatwasi on Apr 14, 2009 05:47 PM
Congress has an edge over BJP because of their decades of rule in Delhi. They have bought secular and brigade of "intellectuals" who always prefer to be on "politically correct" views rather than understanding realities. However, that gives congress a better image and the lack of opposition leadership will always favour Congress. RSS fails to understand the reality. They think success of Vajpayee and Advani is because of them. The reality is these leaders are far bigger than RSS (unless RSS rises up and returns to core Hindutva definition). This is why RSS tried to remove Advani after Jinnah comment. But, Advani remained on top because there are more BJP activists than core RSS cadres.
Congress on the other hand need more focus on alternative leaderships. Gandhi name is no longer relevant in Indian politics. It is shame that India's oldest party having most senior and experienced leaders relies on a single family to keep them united. Surely, congress in its current form is not the answer for Indi's future.
Re: Analysis of problems in Indian politics
by Subbu on Apr 14, 2009 05:43 PM
Who said nobody vote for BJP? Kangres paaarty is the party, full of corrrupt. Rajiv gaandhi came into the folder instantly after the sudden unexpected death of I.gandhi. Yes Rajiv gandhi was the PM, who visioned Inda for the growth, but as he entered inside Kangrees he too became corrpt, and made milions from it. The bottom line, is Kangree party is like drakulla, who ever takes a membership, he wud become corrupt inside kangrees
Re: Re: Analysis of problems in Indian politics
by Bharatwasi on Apr 14, 2009 05:48 PM
Read it with complete context. I meant nobody will vote for BJP, if it relies on playing with words only
For the past few years we are only seeing, corruption, terrorism, communal tensions, all created by the yuseless corrpt politicians. Only presdential form of rule can save india, and Narendra Modi, or like minded ruler should rule the country for another 11 years, to fulfill the dream of our ex president DR.A Kalam, vision 2020
