Re: Now the leaders will reduce their rallies.
by crazedcat on Apr 10, 2009 03:40 PM
good riddance too. some money and electricity saved. when was the last time anybody made up their mind to vote for a candidate after listening to his rally?!
Guys....Have you ever seen that India is the only country in the world wherein...at the time of elections the media is not with the opposition and is like an extension to the ruling party. People dont have any place to express their opposition to the government and its policies. Media is completely biased and are censoring anything that is anti Congress. Where do people go? Here on rediff is comes to be a free for all at times, but look at it in a different light,people are plain frustrated and the government is gagging everything. This is Mini Emergency.
Re: Re: Mini Emergency
by Secularismsucks on Apr 10, 2009 03:46 PM
Anything that is anti Congress. Syed Rahman, it takes an honest Indian to understand this.jaichands wont understand it.
The break up of India, if it comes, will not come from the efforts of tamilnation.org. It will come despite our efforts. It will come from a failure of political leaders in India to openly recognise that India is a multi national state - and recognise the enduring wisdom of the words of Pramatha Chaudhuri:
"...It is not a bad thing to try and weld many into one but to jumble them all up is dangerous, because the only way we can do that is by force. If you say that this does not apply to India, the reply is that if self determination is not suited to us, then it is not suited at all to Europe. No people in Europe are as different, one from another, as our people. There is not that much difference between England and Holland as there is between Madras and Bengal. Even France and Germany are not that far apart. If some of our politicians shudder at the mention of provincial patriotism, it is because their beliefs smack of narrow national selfishness."
We recognise that Tamils are Indians. We are Indians because we are Tamils. And, if we were not Tamils, we would not be Indians. Again, if there were no Bengalis, no Marathis, no Kannadigas, no Tamils (to mention but a few of the peoples of the Indian subcontinent), there would be no 'Indians'. Even apart from anything else, in what language would they speak to each other? The unity of India will not come simply by English speaking 'Indians' speaking to each other in English. Pramatha Chaudhuri said it all more than eight
stable unity will emerge only when New Delhi acquires the vision and the strength to structure a polity where the different peoples of the sub continent (including those in the island of Sri Lanka) may freely associate with each other in equality and in freedom. The price of failure, will be the disintegration of the Indian state because, in the years ahead, the political awakening of the different peoples of India will continue to gather momentum - and this will be unstoppable.
If democracy means the rule of the people, by the people and for the people, then it also means that no one people may impose their rule on another. It is this appeal to democracy which has given national movements their enduring appeal.
It will be futile for New Delhi, Canutelike, to order the rising tide of nationalism to recede. The rising tide of Kashmiri nationalism will not recede in the years to come. Neither will Assamese nationalism recede - on the contrary, these nationalisms and others will grow from year to year.
If the disintegration of India comes, it may come with the same seeming suddenness of the collapse of the centralised Soviet state - because the seeds of disintegration have had several decades to germinate, underground and in fertile soil. It will come because of the failure to learn the lessons of the two world wars - lessons which led to the formation of the European Union. It will come because of a failure to understand the underlying reasons which contributed
What is wrong if BJP is talking about Hindutva. Is it not communalism that every party is talking about Muslim (allies say minorities). Actually fact is that Hindus are not united and ready to fight for the basic. In India a day will comes when Hindus will be in minority
Re: BJP is not communalism
by Chilukuri Murty on Apr 10, 2009 03:50 PM
my dear promod - i fully agree with you. Hindus must be united and India should be declared Hindu Rashtra - when Muslim majority countries declare themselves as Islamic Nations, why not India (having Hindu Majority) be declared as Hindu Rashtra ? Unlike Islamic countries, Hindu Rashtra is secular and there is freedom to all religions to set up mosques, churches etc. This is possible only if Hindus are united and cast their vote to BJP. By next 5 years Baba Ramdev's party will be a contender for majority of LS seats.
Good to see more shoes being hurled at the netas. The clip shows an old man doing so, which is most telling of how our politicians have ruined the country. Finally, Naveen Jindal states on TV, he suspects that the man was drunk, man was kicked out of his teaching job as he molested a student, and finally, it is an opposition trick, as the camera was focussed on the man before he threw the shoe. These useless Harvard-educated, egoistic mind set, politicians think everyone will believe what they say.
Re: Re: All the netas are in it only for money and power
by Rambabu Shastri on Apr 10, 2009 03:42 PM
Heh heh... I expected that as someone would definitely read between the names. We still have that in-built capability given to us by our forefathers to find out caste with names... It is ingrained in our psyches since birth..
Re: Re: Re: All the netas are in it only for money and power
by jayadevan KN on Apr 10, 2009 03:45 PM
sensible comment vanished by ur second reply i accept u r true Brahmin NOW
Re: Re: Re: Re: All the netas are in it only for money and power
by Rambabu Shastri on Apr 10, 2009 03:59 PM
See my further message below. It was posted at 3:44, whereas you have posted this at 3:45. Do note, I am not a Brahmin, do not think like you and have guts to say I am Indian and not whatever else subgroups India comprises of.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: All the netas are in it only for money and po
by sunil VettathilKrishnan on Apr 10, 2009 04:26 PM
Jayadevan's eye is devided to different cast. Such people are curse for Hinduism (in Broad meaning)and Hindustan
Re: Re: Re: Re: All the netas are in it only for money and power
by sunil VettathilKrishnan on Apr 10, 2009 04:29 PM
A good communist EMS Namboothiripad was using his name as it is which shows his cast in it . That does not means he is a Brahmin follower.Do not roam on silly things, wht we need is healthy debate
Re: Re: All the netas are in it only for money and power
by andy on Apr 10, 2009 03:42 PM
I am sure you have never been intelligent and Brahmins have always surpassed you in everything you did. Trust me you will always be low C-la_ss.
Re: Re: Re: All the netas are in it only for money and power
by Rambabu Shastri on Apr 10, 2009 03:44 PM
By the way, I am not a Brahmin... I am only an ordinary Indian, trying to express my honest views about how Indians have been ingrained with caste, religion, parochial identities since time immemorial. If all of us look at India first, we will be a nation that is unstoppable.
Re: Re: Re: All the netas are in it only for money and power
by Rambabu Shastri on Apr 10, 2009 04:34 PM
And that Vaiko, exploited sentiments for votes, by pushing for Tamil nation. He also stated he could send his own Tamil army to fight in Sri Lanka.. But the funny thing no one realizes in their emotions is that... HE JUST DID NOT DO ANYTHING. So stop getting driven up by empty rhetoric and focus on taking India forward. Teach these Vaiko types a lesson they will never forget by throwing them out of power forever.
Re: Re: Keep BJP Out
by sunil VettathilKrishnan on Apr 10, 2009 04:12 PM
Communist Party of Madunist does not have rights to speak about secularism,. In ponnani a muslim, In palakkad Biju ( for ezhava Vote) in kottayam Suresh kurup for Nair Vote, Kozhikode again mislim for muslim vote. Last 2 time in Cannanore Abdulla Kutty for Muslim Vote, Malappuram also muslim candidate for muslim vote.. Is this Communism or Communalism Mr.jayadevan? BJP is far better. They are forced to do some thing to mobilize Hindu vote because you people are only concern of Minority Vote bank. If you stop this automatically BJP will stop it. How many people are killed in Cannanore District for past one decade by CPM? will be more than Godhra.How many in nandi gram?
Re: Re: Keep BJP Out
by Satyapal Nair on Apr 10, 2009 03:45 PM
You commis don't have the right to speak, u r the traitors.. u were with china when there was war... now you are behind Madni & his wife for bloody minority vote...
Re: Re: Re: Keep BJP Out
by sunil VettathilKrishnan on Apr 10, 2009 04:20 PM
Mr.Nair, One more thing . The communists never want their country or state to be well but only their party. It is the richest party in India now. They speak some thing and do some thing else. Pinarayi's son is studying in England. Why he did not send him to China? or Russia or Cuba. If they them self could not follow the rules set by them then how can one belive their words. i feel sympathy on the communist caders who are ready to loose their life evn for such leaders... Sorry sir, It was an out burst of an old communist who done hell alot of blunders on the same pinarayi's direct command when he was Cannanore District Secretary
Re: Keep BJP Out
by Calspadeaspade on Apr 10, 2009 07:44 PM
You can never do that dude. What has Varun gandhi done? You guys cant even take a few statements? How much people have taken from worse than communalism from you guys?Ploitics of hate was promoted by EVR, Karuna. Lallu and congress. Not even Mulayam.I am glad we have some party like BJP to look at our intersts too. They are not perfect. They need to be polished. But I am glad there is some opposition to the atrocities by the so called secularists.
Re: Keep BJP Out
by Cynical on Apr 10, 2009 03:41 PM
So what about Congi Killers 1. Tytler 2. Sajjan Kumar 3. Rajiv Gandhi (Killer of 1000 of IPKF Jawans) Can you throw some light ?
Re: Keep BJP Out
by Chetan Natekar on Apr 10, 2009 03:40 PM
What has congress done? Allowed killing of innocent Sikhs in 1984, Haj subsidy to appease Muslims. Blindfold on the issue of illegal immigration from Bangladesh and the list will go on.
Re: Re: Keep BJP Out
by jayadevan KN on Apr 10, 2009 03:47 PM
what about Gujrat Mascare, Demolition of babri masjid, Kandhar, Bus and train service to Pak
Re: Re: Keep BJP Out
by sunil VettathilKrishnan on Apr 10, 2009 04:23 PM
Except Sikh killing CPM also resposible for other matter. They just want vote they can even sell their any thing for that. Now CPM is in alliance with Abdul nasar maduny who was in Coimbatore central jail for 9 years for his involvement in Bomb blast case.
Re: shoe throw
by jayadevan KN on Apr 10, 2009 03:40 PM
pls dont defend politician deserve the same shoes should fill or deep in mud or sheet before hurling to them
