Re: Indian Batt1ng
by Krish on Nov 25, 2013 09:00 PM
Kohli has scored only in ODIs and that too on flat lifeless pitches. Vijay is taken for tests and he has better record (4 centuries in 12 tests) than Dhawan, Gambhir or any opener's record. Pujara failed once in SAfrica, but should be better now.
Re: Re: Indian Batt1ng
by on Nov 26, 2013 11:21 AM
What do you mean by better record than Gambhir or any operer? Vijay has an overall avg. of 38.2 and Gambhir has 44.2 with mush more centuries and fifties showing who is better. As the test will be abroad, in SA, in fast and bouncy pitches, now Vijay has an avg. of 12.5 in fast and bouncy pitches abroad in 4 tests with no fifty at least and Gambhir has an avg. of 40.3 in 12 tests in fast and bouncy pitches abroad with 5 fifty and 2 centuries.
Zaheer, Sehvag, gambhir, harbhajan are milEs better than usELess y0ungSters any day OVERSEAS. Wa1ting for an0ther shAMEless d1saSTER. YounG!stan wiLL pEe in fr0nt of STeyn just liKE captAIN st00l does everYTime:)
Re: Overseas
by nandu v on Nov 26, 2013 06:23 PM
gambheer sewag and harbajan were part of indian white wash in england and australia. there is no need of this useless players in the team. they are good players but creat problumes in the team. .
One way I am happy that Zaheer is back.......but then again, it tilts toward unhappiness as Gautham Gambhir is not selected after an exemplary performance in the Ranji Trophy.
I will pray that India lose the test series and ODI's agains South Africa in South Africa. That will prove how much necessity is Gautham Gambhir in the squad. He is important and age is still on his side.
Re: Unfortunate
by anand zawar on Nov 25, 2013 05:56 PM
exactly. Gambhir is needed in both the formats. we are definitely one good batsmen short and also on what basis is this rayudu kept in the team. Just one 50 against zimbabwe. Raina and yuvraj and jadeja are going to dance to the tunes of steyn. In that case we have only 4 batsmen who are in form. If the opening pair fails the batting would be exposed just like yesterdays one-dayer against WI. Thats where gambhir comes and gives solidarity to the team. But, as I understand this is clear cut politics on part of dhoni cause of his unliking for both sehwag and gambhir who have spoken against Dhoni's strategy of taking the match to the last over when u could have finished it earlier in Aus. After that both of them have been shown the door. Dhoni is cashing on his success now by playing politics and keeping all his chamchas and players who can do his wah-wah. For gods sake what is that tall lady Ishant doing once again is beyond belief? My verdict, our team would be exposed hopelessly in batting first as well as chasing. Even pakistan which has lost to SA very badly have a balanced side at the moment. Dont expect too much from Yuv, Raina and jadeja. They would be just filling the gap and nothing else. I think its Raina's turn to be shown the door for a long time now.
Re: Re: Unfortunate
by nandu v on Nov 26, 2013 06:14 PM
gambheer should stady disiplin . . he is out of the team not do to his form. but do to his attitude. your blaiming ms d . then what about kohli. kohli did not like gumbheer . that means gambheer carriar is over...ha,ha,ha.
Re: Re: Re: Unfortunate
by nandu v on Nov 26, 2013 06:29 PM
OK we will face it . but if we won this series then it is a victory of CSK and ms dhoni. are you OK?
Re: Unfortunate
by Krish on Nov 25, 2013 09:02 PM
Gambhir should have been picked for ODIs in India. Tests - he has no technique. But overriding factor is he doesn't get along well with Dhoni and fights with Kohli.
Re: Unfortunate
by usha sundaram on Nov 25, 2013 11:13 PM
To include Gambhir, you"ll pray for India's defeat. Good logic. It clearly shows where your mind lies. Not for the country but for an individual.
He deserves he call for he brings to the table what Indian bowling lacks at the moment. He may have lost quite a bit of pace but hasn't lost the guile and the cunningness.In Tests if you keep bowling at say 140kmph and the batters leave most of your deliveries, the bowler is not going to have much success even after a day's hard work. That's where Zak's experience and skill comes onto play. How to make the batsman play and entice him to make mistake is something which comes to a bowler from experience. And we all know Zak is a skilful operator with the old ball. The new crop of Indian bowlers would have someone for guidance when things don't work according to plan.
Rohit, Shikhar Dhawan, Cheteshwar Pujara, Virat Kohli, MS Dhoni, Rayudu Ashwin, Bhuvaneswar Kumar, Umesh Yadav, Mohammed Shami, Zaheer Khan,
We may still miss the variety of Amit mishra. Legspinners are the better bet in a test match and especially a wrist spinner like Amit could have been atleast selected in the 15.
Re: Now that lends a bit more of stability to the batting..
by Pat Thakur on Nov 25, 2013 05:55 PM
Babaji, what're u ding here? Please join the selection committee.....
Re: Re: Now that lends a bit more of stability to the batting..
by Krish on Nov 25, 2013 09:04 PM
Rahane has no match temperament- he has failed so far. Rayudu deserves a break. Vijay is good in tests and Rohit for opening in ODIs.
Happy to know that Rayadu found to be the worthy replacement for Tendulkar. Having shown the talent in the early stages of his career , was also known as the next Tendulkar, But unfortunately could not get enough opportunity and did get some when his form dipped. Now that he is selected, he can show his revoke his potential and shine in the world of cricket.
Re: Team Selection for SA tour
by anand zawar on Nov 25, 2013 05:59 PM
Yeah by carrying water bottles. Just one 50 against zim and nothing else to show.these are all flat track bullies who can bat in IPL. He will dance to steyn's tune remember.
Re: Re: Team Selection for SA tour
by M S Dhoni on Nov 25, 2013 06:30 PM
Zaheer, Sehvag, gambhir, harbhajan are milEs better than usELess y0ungSters any day OVERSEAS. Wa1ting for an0ther shAMEless d1saSTER. YounG!stan wiLL pEe in fr0nt of STeyn just liKE captAIN st00l does everYTime:)
Re: Re: Re: Team Selection for SA tour
by Krish on Nov 25, 2013 11:24 PM
Yeah we know what the oldies Zaheer, Gambhir, Harbhajan did in Eng and Aus in 2012-13. Let the youngsters pEe this time!
Thanks to the intimidating and formidable indian middle order of 2000s- Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Ganguly...two of the talented domestic talents never got a change to shine at the internation stage - Wasim Jaffer and Subraminium Badrinath. Both are veterans to their respectvie Ranji teams - Mumbai and Tamil Nadu and have as avg of 60-65 with many huge scores. It is just that they belonged to the top stage at the wrong phase. Had they been playing 10 years earlier or 10 years later, they might have played for India on a more regular basis.
Re: d
by Krish on Nov 25, 2013 09:05 PM
Jaffer got many chances - 40 tests - that is not a small number. And he didn't fare well. Badri is still fit and fields great- could replace Raina in ODIs.
After 0-4 defeat in England and 0-4 defeat in Australia again Team Dhoni going abroad to play in fast pitches without some key players like Gambhir,Harbhajan. Now Laxman, Dravid and SRT are also not there.Let us see how team Chennai performs in Tests. Expect a Lungi Dance of our batsman in the fast pitches.
Re: Let us hope for Team Chennai
by Abstract baba on Nov 25, 2013 04:49 PM
Gambhir had mastered enough of lungi dance during England and Australian series..
Re: Let us hope for Team Chennai
by madan menon on Nov 25, 2013 04:53 PM
players like gambhir (when did he last scored a few runs.?) bhajji (he forgot the art of spinning) why u are envious of CKS..THEY got the best of indian players. they can play better than dada IN FAST pitches
Re: Re: Let us hope for Team Chennai
by anand zawar on Nov 25, 2013 06:06 PM
really? what has rauydu and ishant sharma done to be there? This is pure politics being played by Dhoni. That tall lady ishant needs to be thrown in the indian ocean forever. I would have taken a fit varun aaron instead
Re: Re: Re: Let us hope for Team Chennai
by Krish on Nov 25, 2013 09:08 PM
Fit Varon- that's the problem - Yadav and Varon are never fit. And Rayudu is better than Gambhir who has been given a long rope in the past.
Re: Re: Let us hope for Team Chennai
by Santanu Banerjee on Nov 26, 2013 08:24 AM
Just see the statistics of all you have mentioned in ESPNcriinfo. Last 5 innings of Gambhir and M.Vijay. Vajji was highest wicket taker(17) in last SA tour.Also see records of Dada in SA,Aus and England.I am not comparing legend Dada with anyone bcoz he is past now. First get some knowledge then argue.
Re: Re: Let us hope for Team Chennai
by Pakhal Vato on Nov 26, 2013 09:24 AM
Dada have 41.7 avg. in fast pitches at England,SA,Aus,WI,NZL with 12 fifties and 5 centuries. I think not so bad.
Re: Let us hope for Team Chennai
by anand zawar on Nov 25, 2013 06:02 PM
the best comment so far. This is a chennai team full of dhonis chamchas. Politics at its best.
Re: Re: Let us hope for Team Chennai
by nandu v on Nov 26, 2013 06:41 PM
CSK is the best team in IPL. . there is nothing with out politics . yourfevirates are not selected because do to there politics . both gambheer and sewag want to become capton of india.
Re: Let us hope for Team Chennai
by nandu v on Nov 26, 2013 06:34 PM
we CSK is ready to face chalange but you people should asept that if we win this series then it is a victory of ms dhoni and csk.
Ghambir, Sehwag and Harbhajan will have to wait for a Test recall till next October/November when a new BCCI president will be elected and may be a new chairman of selection committee and a new captain to be chosen at the same time.
Re: they have to wait until next october/November
by abc_xyz abc_xyz on Nov 25, 2013 04:41 PM
Wonder what has harbhajan done of late to warrant a recall when you have so many spinners better than him.
Ghambir's arrogance is his downfall and is clearly paying the price for having a spat with dhoni. And did you mention shewag ...his time is over period.
Re: Re: they have to wait until next october/November
by anand zawar on Nov 25, 2013 06:07 PM
really? what has rauydu and ishant sharma done to be there? This is pure politics being played by Dhoni. That tall lady ishant needs to be thrown in the indian ocean forever. I would have taken a fit varun aaron instead
Re: they have to wait until next october/November
by desi twist on Nov 25, 2013 04:55 PM
No that is not necessary. All they need to do is to improve their game, which at this moment has hit rock bottom...
Re: Gauti ?????
by madan menon on Nov 25, 2013 04:57 PM
really? gati was good now shikhar, rohit are best, gone are the days of gauti & viru..they have become obsolete.
Re: Gauti ?????
by Krish on Nov 25, 2013 09:11 PM
In tests Vijay has scored 4 centuries in 14 tests, Gauti didn't do anything in first 20 and last 20 tests. ODIs- Dhawan and Rohit are well settled.
