How much have Trott and brits paid for Dharmasena to save the match for the brits??? Dhramasena saved Troot twice from ebing out once by caught behind by Dhoni and another time being LBW to Jadeja! what a shame that cricket fans are being fooled by paid and bribed umpires who are fixing matches for a price,of course1 icc must review all decdisions of umpires and MUST ban umpires or deny them their fees for making bad decisions1 what a shame1 aleem dar 7tony hill fixed the mumbai test for brits and now dharmasena doing same fixing job1 what a shame1
Re: CrystalClear and Sunil Vaidya have still not answered
by Sunil Vaidya on Dec 16, 2012 05:27 PM
DB you know all the figures and where to get it. so why are you asking me...just like you know other players match winning performances you can find dhoni's too...after all there are 29 tests so far where he has been part of indian test wins...is it so difficult to get those 29 tests' scorecards?...
check which captain of india scored 92 and 68 not out against ponting's aussies and got Man of the Match award...
India threw away the advantage. India was at 4/269 and ended up with 290 odd with only the tailenders remaining.
I am just disappointed at Dhoni's rush of blood and geting run out. I watched the first two session and Dhoni was so careful and even holding Kohli back from attempting even a slightest of risky run.
And he lost the plot. I wonder how India will even get a lead that Kohli is talking about..
Re: Bottomline
by Saaani Mrichie on Dec 17, 2012 06:41 AM
Why blame Dhoni or other indian players,dude???WHEN UMPIRES ARE PLAYING FOR YOU YOU CAN BEAT ANY SIDE in the world,right??? how much dhrmasena and tucker have taken from trott and brits is the big question now!dhramasena saved trott twice when he was out twice, but gave not out!in mumbai test paki aleem dar and tony hill played for brits and won the match for the brits!shame BCCI has not put pressure on icc to punish or ban umpires making wrong decisions so far! if dharmasena had not played for brits,India would have won the Test already! what a shame!
what dhoni can do when a all specialist batsman get out early and put pressure on lower order yet dhoni remained on crease for whole day. so i can say dhoni is a responsible captain.
Re: dnoni
by Sunil Vaidya on Dec 16, 2012 03:52 PM
very well said, we were 1-2 down in the series and chasing 330 in the 1st innings we were 71/4...what more pressure than this? and dhoni promoted himself up the order and played a wonderful innings to put india back in the game...
He was lucky to get a good set team of great players in their prime. You can see the averages of Gambhir, Sehwag, Dravid, VVS, SRT, Bhajji, Zaheer when India was No. 1 and compare with the averages of Dhoni himself in those same matches.
Re: Dhoni's great captaincy is just a myth
by Sunil Vaidya on Dec 16, 2012 05:43 AM
very well said, absolutely correct. Dhoni’s average was same as that of gambhir laxman etc.
when india were no. 1 it was dhoni who played very well and had a good average like all the rest...thank you for coming out in dhoni's defence deshbhakth hindu. you are a real deshbhakth...
dhoni’s performance as a batsman since he became captain till we were no. 1 in tests… 30 tests 45 innings 5 not out 1800 runs 45 average 100s-3 50s-14 thanks for the stats deshbhakth hindu
Re: Re: Dhoni's great captaincy is just a myth
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Dec 16, 2012 01:50 PM
But how many match winning innings has he played ???? No answer from Dhoni fans till now.
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni's great captaincy is just a myth
by Sunil Vaidya on Dec 16, 2012 05:29 PM
DB you know all the figures and where to get it. so why are you asking me...just like you know other players match winning performances you can find dhoni's too...after all there are 29 tests so far where he has been part of indian test wins...is it so difficult to get those 29 tests' scorecards?...
check which captain of india scored 92 and 68 not out against ponting's aussies and got Man of the Match award...
Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by CrystalClear on Dec 15, 2012 10:32 PM
2. Srilanka - India test series 2009 (16 Nov 2009 to 6 Dec 2009), India won the series, Captain - MSD
Re: Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by CrystalClear on Dec 15, 2012 10:38 PM
New-zealand India Test series 2010 (04 Nov. 2010 to 23 Nov. 2010), India won the series, Captain - Dhoni
Re: Re: Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by CrystalClear on Dec 15, 2012 10:42 PM
4. WestIndies India Test Series 2011 (06 Nov 2011 to 26 Nov 2011), India won the 3 match series, Captain - Dhoni
Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by M Dhoni on Dec 15, 2012 10:36 PM
Dhoni n bowlers batting average outside subcontinent
In WI 2006, dhoni 24, kumble 26.6 In AUS 2007, dhoni 17.62 kumble 30, harbhajan 23 In WI 2011, dhoni 19.4 harbhajan 24.5 In ENG 2011, dhoni 12.25 harbhajan 14.5 In Aus 2012, dhoni 20.4 ashwin 32.6 :)
Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by M Dhoni on Dec 15, 2012 10:44 PM
Dear Crystal India became no1 in 2010-2011 because SRT scored 2500runs in 40innings Dravid and laxman scored 1800runs in 38innings Sehvag scored 1700runs in 35innings :) First you know the fact behind team India's success and then come on this forum :)
Re: Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Dec 15, 2012 11:07 PM
@ CrystalClear What is Dhoni's contribution in each match ??? You have tried to intelligently dodge my question. Everybody knows the above stats, but what about Dhoni's contribution ???? No point trying because you won't find any of Dhoni's match winning contribution.
Re: Re: Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Dec 15, 2012 11:14 PM
Dhoni was just lucky to get a team with great players. Now you see how he is failing as captain because most of his great players are gone or are on their way out.
Re: Re: Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by Sunil Vaidya on Dec 17, 2012 03:19 AM
DB, very conveniently u have given only other players stats and not given dhoni's stats and acting as if you dont know it, making as though he has failed...when in reality if you have stats of others u know also dhoni's stats and that they are good but you are cleverly hiding and acting as if dhoni has failed... there are plenty of test match winning he has played but you have long term memory loss about that...
so let me refresh your memory...as a captain till we were no. 1 test team his stats were-
30 tests 45 innings 5 notout 1800 runs average 45 100s-3 50s-14...they are as good as others ...similar to gambhir and laxman...so you see he has done as well as others but you want that he score like all 5's stats together only then will you be satisfied...he has scored the following in won tests- 29 tests 41 innings 1641 runs average 48.something 100s-4 50s-14....you need more info? or are you going to stop the act?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by Sunil Vaidya on Dec 17, 2012 03:25 AM
sorry typo, 29 tests 41 innings 7 not out 1641 runs 1641 144 highest average 48.26 100s-3 50s-12...now will you give up your act that dhoni did not perform as a batsman and had no match winning innings?
do you know which indian captain made 92 and 68 not out against ponting's aus team and won Man of the Match award?
Re: Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by Sunil Vaidya on Dec 16, 2012 05:48 AM
very well said, M Dhoni
like u said india lost no. 1 status because of gambhir, sehwag, srt, dravid laxman...there stats and their failures are there for everybody to see....therefore they are responsible that we lost the no. status in tests and are now languishing at the bottom..like u rightly said it is not dhoni but the performances or rather failures of gambhir, sehwag, srt, dravid laxman in the last 2 yrs. that is responsible for our bad situation in tests...
Re: Re: Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by M Dhoni on Dec 16, 2012 06:50 PM
Dear Sunil, thanks for shielding me again. Entire world knows that i am a big failure with bat. My overseas record has proven it a no. of times, but still you love me and idolize me. Thanks so much. Now i understood that why you are still unmarried at the age of 48 because you devoted your life idolizing me. Thanks for protecting me again :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by Sunil Vaidya on Dec 16, 2012 10:11 AM
bhasmasur stop living upto your name...
just for the sake of bashing dhoni please dont forget the reality....
it was because of the batting of seniors in fact all the 5 specialist batsmen sehwag, gambhir, dravid, laxman and sachin that was responsible for the horrible overseas losses and india losing its no. 1 status.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Dec 16, 2012 01:56 PM
You mean to say Dhoni was the only performer in England ?? Go get a life Sunil Vaidya. Dhoni's days are numbered as test captain.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by Sunil Vaidya on Dec 16, 2012 04:00 PM
whether dhoni's days as a captain are numbered or not is a different issue...whether he remains as a captain or not you cannot deny that it was the failures of our specialist batsmen overseas in sa eng and aus that is that of sehwag gambhir sachin dravid and laxman that were responsible for our losing the no. 1 status...if you want to pin that blame on dhoni and make him the scapegoat what can i do?
if you want to run away from the reality that our 5 specialist batsmen have failed horribly away and at home for 2 yrs. straight and if you want to clear them of the blame of our not being no. 1 anymore there is nothing else that i can do and say...
go get a life deshbhakth hindu and close your eyes to the performances of our 5 specialist batsmen in the past 2 yrs at home and abroad...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Answer to D Hindu question
by Sunil Vaidya on Dec 16, 2012 10:18 AM
besides let me point it out to you that the indian team was not built by ganguly, kumble and dravid...it was built up by our first really successful captain azhar...it was the team that he built up of sachin, dravid, laxman, kumble, b bhajji, ganguly himself etc. that was responsible for indian successes under him...after him it was ganguly who got the ready-made team that azhar had built gifted to him on a platter from which he began his success story himself contributing nothing or very little.
it was dhoni who after kumble dravid brought in stability to the indian team and which would have crumbled if a able person like him was not their at the helm. it was he who without the help of seniors won the T20 cup held abroad in SA...it was he again who won the Cb triangular series in against in Aus when they were no. 1 and at full strength...it was again done without seniors or very seniors and mostly these people either failed or did not play...(i am referring to sachin and sehwag who either failed or played very very few times when the target and conditions were easy) it was all due to new generation players that dhoni achieved it....same with wc...even in tests he did it without kumble who played ZERO (0!) tests under dhoni...
it was under him that pujara, kohli, ojha, ashwin, praveen and others played and gained confidence....dhoni has built a very good team of new generation players...
but instead of applauding him for his good efforts many people are bashing him...
Re: Re: CrystalClear has conveniently dodged my question
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Dec 15, 2012 10:01 PM
Maybe Google will fail miserably and lose market value.
Re: CrystalClear has conveniently dodged my question
by CrystalClear on Dec 15, 2012 10:16 PM
India was number one Test cricket team during immediately Australian tour after winning T20 world cup. Dhoni was captain and Yuvraj - Dhoni partnership won Test series, go check it out..
Re: Re: CrystalClear has conveniently dodged my question
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Dec 15, 2012 10:27 PM
trying to pass off an ordinary innings as a match winning effort. Hats off to your desperation.
Re: Re: CrystalClear has conveniently dodged my question
by M Dhoni on Dec 15, 2012 10:44 PM
Dear Crystal India became no1 in 2010-2011 because SRT scored 2500runs in 40innings Dravid and laxman scored 1800runs in 38innings Sehvag scored 1700runs in 35innings :) First you know the fact behind team India's success and then come on this forum :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: CrystalClear has conveniently dodged my question
by M Dhoni on Dec 15, 2012 10:52 PM
Dear Crystal, Yeah, you are right. Thats why Eng is beating us on our soil :)
Re: CrystalClear has conveniently dodged my question
by CrystalClear on Dec 15, 2012 10:46 PM
1. Australia in India schedule 2Test Series | Fri, 01 Oct 2010 - Wed, 13 Oct 2010; India won series 2-0, Indian Captain - Dhoni Border - Gwaskar trophy.
2. 2. Srilanka - India test series 2009 (16 Nov 2009 to 6 Dec 2009), India won the series, Captain - MSD
3. New-zealand India Test series 2010 (04 Nov. 2010 to 23 Nov. 2010), India won the series, Captain - Dhoni
4. 4. WestIndies India Test Series 2011 (06 Nov 2011 to 26 Nov 2011), India won the 3 match series, Captain - Dhoni
India was number one TEST CRICKET team in 2010 as per ICC rankings, and Captain was Dhoni
Re: Re: CrystalClear has conveniently dodged my question
by M Dhoni on Dec 15, 2012 10:52 PM
Dear Crystal India became no1 in 2010-2011 because SRT scored 2500runs in 40innings Dravid and laxman scored 1800runs in 38innings Sehvag scored 1700runs in 35innings :) First you know the fact behind team India's success and then come on this forum :)
Re: CrystalClear has conveniently dodged my question
by CrystalClear on Dec 15, 2012 11:04 PM
Who am I to care about your conveniency... These coloums we talk are in the purview of IT Act 2006, if feeling inconvient, refer act... whats the desperation!
Re: Re: CrystalClear has conveniently dodged my question
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Dec 15, 2012 11:09 PM
CrystalClear has still not answered my question - What is Dhoni's individual match winning contribution in these matches ?????? Keep trying, you won't find any.
Re: Re: Re: CrystalClear has conveniently dodged my question
by M Dhoni on Dec 15, 2012 11:11 PM
Dear DH, CC dsnt know difference between test and odi, bcs MSD scores runs in ODI as if playing tests. Remember recent T20 match against NZ which we lost :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: CrystalClear has conveniently dodged my question
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Dec 15, 2012 11:15 PM
I think he gets confused between tests and T20.
Problem is not in Dhoni or Indian cricket some Indian people are too critical in their opinion for Dhoni (social reasons : Caste, Regionalism etc.) and due to myopia they lost eyes on others... The world cup win in 2011 by India must have created holes heart & back! They must have cried, I believe
Re: Problem is not in cricket, people who r critical are baised!
by RSS on Dec 15, 2012 09:50 PM
I wholeheartedly appreciated Dhonu when he was a Wicket Keeper Batsman and scored 183 vs Sri Lanka and of course when he Won India the World Cup in 2011.
But since then he has somehow gone into a non performing mode especially after he bagged a Huge advertisement deal overtaking Sachin.
Since then he has become arrogant especially after becoming CSK captain and winning IPL twice.
Re: Re: Re: Well played Dhoni & Kohli!
by CrystalClear on Dec 15, 2012 09:39 PM
You must have cried and abused yourself for being jealeous when India won 2011 world cup due to Dhoni's contribution. Well also after Australia 2010 test cricket tour India was number one in test cricket team. One can well remeber Yuvraj & Dhoni's partnerships
Re: Re: Re: Re: Well played Dhoni & Kohli!
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Dec 15, 2012 09:52 PM
Trying to divert my question ??? I can understand your heartburn. Hahahahaaha
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Well played Dhoni & Kohli!
by Deshbhakth Hindu on Dec 15, 2012 09:54 PM
I asked you about tests and you are conveniently naming his ODI performances. this happens when you support a person blindly that you cannot accept facts.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Well played Dhoni & Kohli!
by M Dhoni on Dec 15, 2012 11:04 PM
Dear DH, CC dsnt know difference between test and odi, bcs MSD scores runs in ODI as if playing tests. Remember recent T20 match against NZ which we lost :)
