His book wouldnt have got so much publicity had our cricket/sachin obsessed nation not over re-acted on this petty issue.If Sachin does not need any certificate from Shoaib then why are we reacting at all.Luks like shukla/Bcci has some commission on the sale of his book and are giving him un-due publicity.
Re: Leave the book alone!
by invincible on Sep 25, 2011 04:26 PM
Javed, we are shouting about an Paki bark1ng on Indians and nothing else. If experts need to criticize our people, we are welcome. But we have some self respect left in us to reject any so called opinion of a fraud like Akthar. Please understand that we would shout like this even if Shohaib blamed Dhoni or Sehwag or Ganguly or even people like Sadagoppan Ramesh and Abey Kuruvilla :)
Re: Re: Leave the book alone!
by javed shaikh on Sep 25, 2011 05:03 PM
So what is the real issue here?a Pkistani cannot criticize or is it Shoaib akhtar who has no moral grounds?or his claims are false?it is just his feelings in his autobiography.Where was Shukla when Naser hussain called indian players Donkeys.This was more humilating.Oh may be a British is allowed to say so...you are right Mr.Invincible
Re: Re: Re: Leave the book alone!
by invincible on Sep 25, 2011 05:15 PM
No Javed, this is not the matter. It is our self respect. You guessed right. A cheating Paki doesnt have any rights to bark at us. You want to leave him alone since he has written against Sachin. But he has written that he did ball tampering and all bowlers do the same. What is your stand on that? Dont you see foolishness in this sentence? And please be on par with the latest news. On 5-Sep-11, the same Rajiv Shukla told that BCCI will discuss it with ECB. So, learn something else other than Sachin hating.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Leave the book alone!
by javed shaikh on Sep 25, 2011 05:56 PM
My dear friend discussing and demanding apology has a vast difference!anyways all I am saying is...stop discussing about a cheaters book so much.He is not worth it.Do something else.Try to help the victims of earth quake shattered Sikkim and north east areas.encourage ppl 2 donate.God bless you
Re: Leave the book alone!
by swapnil ghate on Sep 26, 2011 09:50 AM
Fully agree with Javed that we should not pay any attention to a failure sportsperson!
I fondly remember during tour to Pakistan.... India were in precarious situation and young Dhoni came to bat and Shoaib Akhtar bowled him a bouncer dhoni hit it for a six....again Shoaib bowled bouncer dhoni again hit for a six....and shoaib got injured....!
Every critic says so, but then unfortunately for them he is not out for most of the time in ODI. No doubt he has played maximum number of ODI but most of these not outs have come earlier. If he ensures the match is already in & he gets out he is still a match winner. He has failed in most of the finals in last few years but people has a short memory thats why this is very common reaction from everybody.
Whatever people here says he has already been a god of cricket & will remain for ever till next Sachin arrives.
SAchin cannot play/has very poor record against 1.Mc Grath. 2.Muralitharan. 3. Swann. 4.Abdul Razaak. 5. Failure in almost every Final except for 4 or 5 out of 450 ODI's & in being an opener. 6.Any bowler-Tom/Dick/Harry who bowls faster than 145 KMS/hr in the sub continent. 7.Any Bowler-who bowls faster than 135 KMS/hr in England/Australia/New Zeland as every other Indian player.
Then why Sachuu is so critized????? B'caz he is the only one who is foolishly referred to as the GOD of cricket- which he does not deserve even after 21 long years of international cricket.
Re: Re: SACHUU-FACTS-ACCEPT IT:
by rahul bajaaj on Sep 25, 2011 04:00 PM
Hare Buddhu, If Sachuu cannot face even 145 Kms/hr in India, what will he do in England, Bouncy pitches in SA & Austraia (Previously). Every England, Australian, South African batsman played/scored runs in those conditions.
You will tell that Sachin is better player of spin than those guys. Ans- Sachin was never comfortable against Murali in his entire lifetime leave alone swann.
Also, fyi, every team including India picks up 3 fast bowlers & 2 spinners.. u ve known the importance of fast bowling...
Re: Re: Re: SACHUU-FACTS-ACCEPT IT:
by invincible on Sep 25, 2011 04:24 PM
Bajaj, tell me which Indian bowler can be classified as "fast"? The best we have is Zaheer Khan, Nehra (whose fitness records are best ignored) and Ishant (he has to improve his consistency). It is the best we can get to. Our batsmen face our bowlers in the nets. And if Sachin did not play spin well, would you think Warne would praise him as the best batsman? And Geoffrey Boycot also said "Technically, you can't fault Sachin. Seam or spin, fast or slow nothing is a problem". Dhoni said "For the team he is the best available coaching manual". I dont think you would call these guys fools, right?
Re: Re: Re: Re: SACHUU-FACTS-ACCEPT IT:
by pradeep agarwal on Sep 26, 2011 01:01 PM
Dhoni definitely needs a batting coach to understand technique which got so badly exposed in Enland.The entire team including God could not adjust even in 8 innings to swinging ball & have no business to be called greats after their pathetic show.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: SACHUU-FACTS-ACCEPT IT:
by invincible on Sep 27, 2011 05:16 AM
Pradeep, no one is begging you to call any XYZ as "great". Firstly, neither did the players want to be called great, nor did they want to be criticized. It is people like you who criticize them.
Re: Re: SACHUU-FACTS-ACCEPT IT:
by pradeep agarwal on Sep 26, 2011 12:49 PM
Swapnil, Macgrath & wane never called him great during their playing days.He is fact was a bunny of Macgrath which will be confirmed by records.He did made Warne & Murli look ordinary but Macgrath, Wasim Akram & Akhtar made him look no better than a good batsman.
Re: Re: Re: SACHUU-FACTS-ACCEPT IT:
by invincible on Sep 27, 2011 05:27 AM
Glenn McGrath: I still think Tendulkar is the best batsmen in the world ahead of Steve Waugh and Lara.
I don't think anyone, apart from Don Bradman, is in the same class as Sachin Tendulkar. He is just an amazing player-Wasim Akram
I did produce a beauty to get Sachin out, but the whole thing was a nightmare. - Sohib Akhtar
Pradeep, after reading the above and buring with envy, can you get me a new set of allegations against Sachin now?
Re: apology...
by rahul bajaaj on Sep 25, 2011 01:15 PM
Yes he will because U & Sachuu are Raja Harichandras. Remember ur Sachuu is famous for Monkeygate Lying in Australia for that useless Bhojji.
I f you feel you have a right ask an apology from Aktar just because he is a cricketer get the sheet you are heading BCCI and IPL under the RTI of Govt of India ..
shukla ji, shoaib has a right to have a opinion and is free to express it...
abdul qadir, razzaq, akram etc. have criticised akhtar and said he should not have said what he said. but actually they have also agreed with him.
akram had said before the start of third test vs eng that he did not think sachin would make a century in this test as the pitch would assist bowlers. he thought sachin could make 100 in 4th test at oval because it was traditionally more batsman-friendly than many other piches in england.
qadir said on tv that dravid was a match winner while sachin had brought india close to many victories (in other words sachin is not a match winner and could not finish the job and is a poor finisher)
razzaq said on tv that some things should not be said and should be kept confidential (in other words that sachin is FTB and proven failure under difficult centuries and non-finisher is not something that should be admitted openly and kept secret under Official Security Act and that information should not be divulged even under R(ight)T(o)I(information) Act.
What Shoaib mentioned in his book isn't a certificate for the prowess of Sachin or Rahul. Its his opinion which may not be entirely unwarranted. Rajiv Shukla must stay away from giving his own comments or making any remarks which are absolutely not required. Shoaib has always been fond of Sachin and Rahul and gives his point of view with regards to the players being one himself, and a successful one at that. And he did clearly say that 'early in their careers' which is a normal thing to say as people only get beeter and more experienced with time and age.
Even if Sachin is not considered as a matchwinner by all. Still almost everyone agrees that he is one of the Greatest Batsman Ever!! And there are no doubts about it. I hope even Shoab will agree to this and we should celebrate this point instead of pelting Shoab for his views about Match winning capabilities of Sachin.
