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sonny gong
who writes this?
by sonny gong on Sep 07, 2011 07:04 AM

Check this out......from the above article

Rahane was the aggressor among the duo and found the boundaries at will, while Dravid played the role of SHIT-ANCHOR dealing mostly in ones twos with occasional fours in between.......if this was my profession i would try harder....

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silver mani
Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 05:53 AM  | Hide replies

By eating Daal Parantha Idli Dosa you can Only get Munaf RP Singh Praveen Venkatesh.Red Meat cannot be used in India due to religious reasonz.Countries where Red Meat is being eatPAkistan-Wasim Waqar Imran Shoib etcetc.AustrAlia-Dennis lillee, bret lee,Shawn Tait,Mcdermott,Newzealand-Shane Bond,Morrison .South Africa-AllAn Donald ,Ntini,Mcmillan,England-Bob Willis ,Broad and company.Now India-Venktesh prasad,Abhey Kuruvilla,Dodda ganesh,RP Singh etc

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D S
Re: Fast Spinners
by D S on Sep 07, 2011 05:57 AM
what happened to red meat eater zaheer and irfan ...



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D S
Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by D S on Sep 07, 2011 05:59 AM
silver mani,
you need iInjection of bBabooon pPiss to make you think proper again.

india has fFukked up selectors (admant), no program to be number 1, worst sorts of coach who are not loyal to india, over-congestion of players promoted by their selectors, etc. etc.

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Ligers
Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by Ligers on Sep 07, 2011 06:18 AM
are you out of your mind? no red meat is why we are not performing well? eating Daal Parantha Idli Dosa has produced many great Indian and Sri Lankan cricketers, as a matter of fact world's leading wicket taker Murali is VEGETARIAN. nonsense comment.

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Sameer
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by Sameer on Sep 07, 2011 08:07 AM
silver mani

Are you saying that all south indians are vegetarians ? If you remember Srinath is a vegetarian and he has been the next best fast bowler in India after Kapil Dev.

Also, do you know the definition of Red Meat ?
Sheep meat, duck, goose is also considered red meat DIMWIT

not just pork and beef

Also, who is stopping people from consuming red meat ?

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silver mani
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 08:59 AM
Hey Moron Sameer Kapil was a medium fast and Sreenath was bit better than him.Beef got the highest beef content ,you Tool

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silver mani
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 09:00 AM
beef got the highest Protein content

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D S
Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by D S on Sep 07, 2011 08:19 AM
it is proper training that makes player. Look at how they have ruined indian pacers from zaheer all the way to munaf and even ishant has knee issues.
whereas angrez have trained them well and kept them fit and ready. not over-strained.

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silver mani
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 09:03 AM
Forget about this series or Zaheer DS wbat about for the past 80 years ,no genuine fast bowler ,any Reason?

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D S
Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by D S on Sep 07, 2011 08:21 AM
it is proper training that makes player.
they can train a dimwit roman prisoner of angrez like bresnan to repeat certain tricks with pace and he is called great, same with broad.

Look at how they have ruined indian pacers from zaheer all the way to munaf and even ishant has knee issues.
whereas angrez have trained them well and kept them fit and ready. not over-strained.

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silver mani
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 09:07 AM
Hey moron What are you talking about training?Pakistan our poor neighbour has produced the deadliest fasties the world has ever seen and they dont have better training equipments facilities or infrastructure than us .How?

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silver mani
Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 07:39 AM
Hey AssWipe DS India has been playing test cricket for more than 80 years and how many genuine fast bowlers it has produced? Ans-None.So you keep eating your grass stuff and produce Musculars like Venkatpathy Raju.Now visualize Muscular Raju on one hand and skinny Jacques Kallis or Shoib Akhtar on the other hand.

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D S
Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by D S on Sep 07, 2011 08:16 AM
silver mani or babboon pPiss

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silver mani
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 08:53 AM
DS or Deep Shit

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silver mani
Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 08:00 AM
Hey DS(Deep Shit) I dont think inIndia you can get beef(cow buffalo) easily even if you are zaheer anf irfan.So mostly they are confining themselves to Chicken which is not RED MEAT.

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Sameer
Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by Sameer on Sep 07, 2011 08:10 AM
Silver Dummy

do you know the definition of Red Meat ?
Sheep meat, duck, goose is also considered red meat DIMWIT


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Charlie Schembri
Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by Charlie Schembri on Sep 07, 2011 08:24 AM

Plenty of Lamb in India and go to Muslim are and ask for 'Badeka. and you will be served beef.

If Meat makes a difference then I would have been competing in Olympic by now..

Wake up for a change..


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Sameer
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by Sameer on Sep 07, 2011 08:41 AM
Charlie Schembri

Silver Dummy thinks Beef is the only red meat. And by eating red meat you will be superman !!!

Damn i better get my cape ready cos I ate a lot of beef/pork/mutton while growing up ;)

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Bobby Christo
Re: Fast Spinners
by Bobby Christo on Sep 07, 2011 07:09 AM
really they eating my favourite red meat -pork.

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Sameer
Re: Fast Spinners
by Sameer on Sep 07, 2011 08:12 AM
SILVER DUMMY !

Do you know the definition of Red Meat ?
Sheep meat, duck, goose is also considered red meat DIMWIT

More than Diet, its the lack of work from cash cow BCCI to nurture fast bowlers is whats causing this



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Sameer
Re: Fast Spinners
by Sameer on Sep 07, 2011 08:14 AM
Silver DUMMY!
Do you know the definition of Red Meat ?
Sheep meat, duck, goose is also considered red meat DIMWIT

You can safely blame the cash rich cricket board for not doing anywork in nurturing young talent ( sub 14 years)

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Charlie Schembri
Re: Fast Spinners
by Charlie Schembri on Sep 07, 2011 08:22 AM
WAKE UP!!!

MEAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STRENGTH OR PERFORMANCE.

THE WORLD HAS CHANGE. HAVE YOU HEARD OF NUTRITION SUPPLEMENTS ETC?

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silver mani
Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 09:11 AM
Charlie nothing has changed for India No fast bowler for the past 80 years and now RP Singh Munaf or Raina,nice change

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Charlie Schembri
Re: Fast Spinners
by Charlie Schembri on Sep 07, 2011 08:26 AM

Mani,

So what's up with Bangladesh? They eat Red Meat a lot. They gotta be 10 times better then India per your logic..

HAHA

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hari narendran
Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by hari narendran on Sep 07, 2011 08:33 AM
hahahaha, Charlie, your last reply is the best reply of all to that moron "silver mani"

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silver mani
Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 09:45 AM
O haria go eat some grass (Hari)

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silver mani
Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 08:57 AM
Exceptions are always there,whats with Aus Eng Pak S.Africa NZ,They are better than us.

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silver mani
Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 09:15 AM
Hey moron What are you talking about training?Pakistan our poor neighbour has produced the deadliest fasties the world has ever seen and they dont have better training equipments facilities or infrastructure than us .How?

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silver mani
Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 09:32 AM
Whats up with Poor Pakistan?Yeah they got spinners like Sarfaraj Waqar Wasim Imraan Soib and we got Swings of sultan like Venktesh prasad Abhey kuruvilla Dodda ganesh and THE MOHANTI

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Sameer
Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by Sameer on Sep 07, 2011 10:02 AM
Silver Dummy

kapil was fast bowler in his prime and was fast medium towards the end.

BTW, I know the reason why we never have an army of fast bowlers.

The reason is " the typical indian is lazy and shies away from hardwork"

BTW, I used to eat beef right through 1990's - 2000 . Also there is something called " Supplements" which are far effective than natural food. look that up while you are at it dimwit

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silver mani
Re: Re: Re: Re: Fast Spinners
by silver mani on Sep 07, 2011 10:42 AM
I dont give a f@$k that you eat beef or shit.Laziness comes from Weakness or  just filling stomach with garbage.And stooge Supplement by itself is not diet ,they have to tame with proper diet like meat fish etc. not with your grass stuff.You can be strong while eating good food without supplement ,remember most of the pakistan players are illiterate and they dont even know the spelling of SUPPLEMENTs.Again my question list any successful express bowler from India,a toe crusher,a swing of sultan from India in the past 80 years

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arvin g
srikanth was sub-standard player...
by arvin g on Sep 07, 2011 05:49 AM  | Hide replies

southie media and bird-brain cricket experts called srikanth an explosive great batsman... well an ave below 30 in both tests and 1-dayers over 11 years... and sr of 71 in 1-dayers... no wonder this medicore player consider all players from south as explosive batsmen and great all rounders and keep giving them chances despite repeated failure...

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santosh deshpande
Re: srikanth was sub-standard player...
by santosh deshpande on Sep 07, 2011 06:12 AM
yes , u r absolutely right. A truly overrated cricketer

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sonny gong
Re: Re: srikanth was sub-standard player...
by sonny gong on Sep 07, 2011 06:51 AM
Not true for one dayers on srikant

sri was super in his days....you cant compare strike rates of today with yesteryears.....but yes he was not a good test player as he would get out mostly by giving his wicket away ..sri could not accumulate runs and was very spontaneous in his batting like Sandeep Patil was !

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madanmohan siddhanthi
Re: Re: srikanth was sub-standard player...
by madanmohan siddhanthi on Sep 07, 2011 06:51 AM
An interesting information - the great gavaskar time and again used to support Sri saying that is the way he plays . Player like Dravid says you have to play taking the situation in to cognance . Sri he had wonderful hand eye coordination which will fade over time .He played with little brain . No sense in critisizing him - it is the experts like him who who kill players . Anyway the IPL will make more and more and more cricketers like these and we will hear - yes that is the way he plays .Perido .All will walk to the bank happily there after.

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sivanandam lakshmanan
Re: Re: Re: srikanth was sub-standard player...
by sivanandam lakshmanan on Sep 07, 2011 07:33 AM
Dhoni & co can't touch even sri's feet considering the chance they are getting now inspite of their mediocre scores.
Sri can field & bowl better than the present youngsters like,kohli,raina,jadeja,yuvi & yusuf.Mind he battted in no 1 position not after the ball is old

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mahesh mahesh
Re: srikanth was sub-standard player...
by mahesh mahesh on Sep 07, 2011 08:40 AM
He is a tamilian and will support only tamils.Explain why he has not selected Uthappa,Mithun or Arvind who are from Karnataka and are better players tham the ones he has selected.

Incidently South is not Tamil,it has Karnataka where the entire india wants to come and settle and slso Kerla anf Andhra.

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Navneet Jasmeet
Re: Re: srikanth was sub-standard player...
by Navneet Jasmeet on Sep 07, 2011 11:09 AM
This is INDIA any one can settle anywhere...why r u bothered about people settling in Karnataka

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D S
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by D S on Sep 07, 2011 05:28 AM  | Hide replies

selector and dhoni adamant selection failed india again. they did not learn.


RP should have been tried, it would have stopped angrez from gaining confidence using the dutch-german origin player of SA kieswetter.
first 5 overs killed india, should have had munaf in first 5 overs or RP.
vinay is not ready yet and praveen should be removed from first 5 overs if he was not ready...

what is use of calling ashwin an all rounder , mr srikant. Even angrez has two spinner.. Ashwin could be an allrounder versing bangladesh but not angrez, same for praveen and vinay kumar as well. Why not try pragyan or rahul sharma. they were not even tried in practice matches lest india find them good.


desis have created same problem with bresnan, swann, broad, etc. desis koha good length balls kooha rise phar mharnaa hein. vaahey angrez khaar raahey hein, cook nheey backfoot phaar jaa khaar rising ball koo maarha. This is how usneey push back khiyaa indian bowling kooha.

flats ball easy hein catch out kheey lhiyee that we can see how swann and bresnan nheey wickets capture khiyaa on flat balls.
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same with slightly over-pitched balls jhissey huum full toos naheey banaa raahey.
otherwise, voha balls flat hoo jaatheey hein that can be caught. that is why swann and bresnan could pressure desis with flatter ball and desi kooha mhalum naheey where is the rise for those ball due to pressure..

desis can only do the above jhaab confidence hooga after settling down.

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D S
Re: ..
by D S on Sep 07, 2011 05:29 AM
continued ..

jhaab angrez phaar pressure hooga on good length and overpitched to hit for 2, four and six, thaab vooha short pitched dhalegae and indians kooha easy hooga short-pitched kooha hit khaarna on rise.

Dernbach slow balls with grip change kharthaa hein so it upsets the timing of new batsmen. this time indians figured it out. angrez batting nheey vaaheey khiyaa hein .



angrez switched from left hander to right hander like trained rabbits.
angrez have practiced it so hard for india. khaiseey rising ball kooha backfoor yaa front foot sheey mhareey to push back india kheey good lenght and overpitched balls to make it easy to hit short pitched .




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om shanti
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by om shanti on Sep 07, 2011 05:21 AM

India loses hosting rights of Champions Trophy

LAUSANNE, Sept 6 (PTI): India today lost the hosting rights of this year’s Champions Trophy hockey tournament, paying the price for an ongoing administrative row over the governance of the game in the country. The International Hockey Federation (FIH) announced that India will no longer host the 2011 Men’s Champions Trophy due to ongoing problems with the governance of hockey in the country. A replacement host for the event is expected to be named within a week.

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sonny gong
Dhoni taken for a ride
by sonny gong on Sep 07, 2011 04:46 AM  | Hide replies

Firmly it can be said that Dhoni is a good captain just based on his record. But it seems the selectors are taking him for a ride or that he may be weak in asking for what is needed. Come on, the Indian bowling attack looked like a Division III attack with the fastest bowler being Patel who rarely bowled anything above 130KPH. Pathetic !! It is terrible to see a young bowler like Patel not bending his back at all. Only Wasim Akram pointed it out doing the commentary. If a fast bowler does not bowl fast then why keep him in the side? get Irfan who bowls faster (much) that Patel, this Vijay fella and Praveen and can bat hellofa lot better than all therr put togather.......something is going on with the team mamnagement....Dhoni should push and get support or open risk his neck just like Ganguly used to do against the admistration.



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Sunil Vaidya
Re: Dhoni taken for a ride
by Sunil Vaidya on Sep 07, 2011 04:58 AM
Idiot, Dhoni is doing his job well. It is the team who should support him when really needed.

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surya das
Re: Re: Dhoni taken for a ride
by surya das on Sep 07, 2011 05:34 AM
Dhoni is doing his job well!! From which planet r u from? Let me know past 3 innings incl T20, wht he has done for the team? Wake up mate.. Thanks to our openers who r the only hope apart from Raina. Dhoni is the waste in team nothing more. Parthiv is much better wkt keeper batsman than this guy.

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kush chatterjee
Re: Re: Re: Re: Dhoni taken for a ride
by kush chatterjee on Sep 07, 2011 07:38 AM
So you mean to say that if Sachin fails all other players in the India team has the right to fail?

Is this team sachin that you are referring to or team india?

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Sunil Vaidya
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni taken for a ride
by Sunil Vaidya on Sep 07, 2011 11:21 AM
What i mean dhoni is trying his best to defeat india. but sometimes other players played well for win of india.

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rajashi ghosh
Re: Re: Dhoni taken for a ride
by rajashi ghosh on Sep 07, 2011 09:54 AM
You are absolutely right. Dhoni is doing his job very well. We got hammered in the test matches 4-0 and lost by the biggest margins possible and yet you think, he is doing well. We lost both the 20-20 matches inspite of focusing so much on IPL(the second one-day was as good as a 20-20) and yet you think Dhoni is doing his job well.

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Nikhil Shah
India has been waiting for 60 years for a bowler like Varun Aaron
by Nikhil Shah on Sep 07, 2011 04:29 AM  | Hide replies

It has been over 60 years since we have to wait for a genuine quick to emerge and now he is being forced to warm the bench.

After having lost to England being unable to defend 339 in the WC and 290 against SA it was apparent that the Indian bowling attack was not up to the standards.

During the SA tour, Jaidev was picked ahead of another quick bowler, Umesh Yadav and the obession was swing bowling continues. This primarly due to the lack of assertiveness on Dhoni's part.

After having lost the ODI, unable to defend the 23 over total of 187, India faltered again and it is high time they considered a strike bowler in its lineup.

Swing and accuracy cannot be relied upon all the time and the Indian think tank need to test out the bench for this ODI series.

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sonny gong
Re: India has been waiting for 60 years for a bowler like Varun A
by sonny gong on Sep 07, 2011 05:05 AM
agreed !

The Indian selection is faulty....that is the problem, all players Like Srikanth can't be selectors or administrators, just because they played for india.... and yet he is one of the most educated players who donned indian colors....then all race car drivers should become CEOs of car companies.....the idea is not to get things right sometimes as may be the case for many in the administration but to be methodical, analytical, making use common sense and possessing the ability to reason when selecting a team..... I dont think Team India has anyone at present who is really thinking things through but just merely going with their gut feel.
Those who played cricket will know that fast ball is tough to hit. And all three fast bowlers are like mohinder amarnath - dont forget he used to bowl real well but you cannot have a team with all bowlers bowling like him....Amarnath was a great bat who also bowled in his prime....i dont think the Indian think tank has much thought process going on...or else they would not have left Srishant out of the one dayers knowing that Ishant was injured. There are quite a few other fast bowlers in india today like Varun that bowl at 135 to 145 range but they dont even get a look in .....shame on BCCI for cheating the followers of the game and doing injustice to the country.

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Aam Aurat
Good show by India
by Aam Aurat on Sep 07, 2011 04:23 AM  | Hide replies

They took it to last over. Next time we will pray harder for rain.

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sonny gong
Re: Good show by India
by sonny gong on Sep 07, 2011 05:10 AM
Or may be the english selectors can decide they will behave like the indian selectors and replace all the fast bowlers with spinners like the indians have at the moment !!!!!!

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Mature Stud
Lets hope Dhoni takes a break from the remainder of the series..
by Mature Stud on Sep 07, 2011 04:07 AM  | Hide replies


The selectors really need to start considering Dhoni's position in the team.

Also the bowlers are average at best. Ashwin isn't cutting it as spinner. He has very little spin on the turning track and that makes him efeectively useless on the flat track..



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D S
Re: Lets hope Dhoni takes a break from the remainder of the serie
by D S on Sep 07, 2011 04:16 AM
and he is neither an allrounder. just pushed in by srikant, this is why srikant refused to try pragyan and rahul sharma even for practice matches.

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Charlie Schembri
Re: Lets hope Dhoni takes a break from the remainder of the serie
by Charlie Schembri on Sep 07, 2011 08:28 AM

Sunil,
I accept your argument, but my point is in reference to Dhoni's failure in recent months.

Look back at WI series and the current series.. Waht say?

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Charlie Schembri
Re: Lets hope Dhoni takes a break from the remainder of the serie
by Charlie Schembri on Sep 07, 2011 08:29 AM

I agree with you. Dhoni nned to take a break and think about his game. He is been a total failure of lately..


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D S
angrez switched from left hander to right hander life rabbits
by D S on Sep 07, 2011 04:06 AM

...they had practiced it so hard for india. khaiseey rising ball kooha backfoor yaa front foot sheey mhareey.

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