he suggests " Dhoni should not have played that shot " . ha ---ha--ha. But the great tendya was absolutely right in playing the shot which got him out at 3. such double standrads .
Re: sudhir naik
by Against Pseudos on Nov 29, 2011 04:02 AM
Liquid Singh:
The great Tendya also scored 94 in the first innings. How much did Dhoni score? And the point is that victory was in sight when Dhoni got out. Wasn't the case when Sachin scored 94 or 3...
he suggests " Dhoni should not have played that shot " . ha ---ha--ha. But the great tendya was absolutely right in playing the shot which got him out at 3. such double standrads .
Re: sudhir naik
by Against Pseudos on Nov 29, 2011 04:02 AM
Liquid Singh:
The great Tendya also scored 94 in the first innings. How much did Dhoni score? And the point is that victory was in sight when Dhoni got out. Wasn't the case when Sachin scored 94 or 3...
Great Pitch, Thriller in the test proved the same. Dont cry on Sachins Ton, if he did not make it even the other 9 players in the team did not make it. And for Ashwin he is still new to Int cricket, needs to learn the etiquette and team spirit lessons. His todays performance was good but to prove a master he has to repeat it at least 1000 times. Some players after proving it 1000 times are still being criticized by countrymen who even cant hold the cricket bat. So Ashwin has still to learn a lot.
Mr. Ashwin, welcome to international cricket. You'll have to repeat your words every test match down under. Instead, try to understand the concept of test matches. Great pitch, Mr. Sudhir Naik.
if readers recall he the same Sudhir Naik who wadekar took along with him on England Tour of '74. He got him to make special track to enable great son of soil- the magician tendya to score 100th ton. but it so happened that the greatest cricketer ever could not score a total 100 in the match thus letting down waadekar , gavaskar , shastri & naik.
the cricketer who got into the team purely on the merits of being a 'Kar" has the temerity to comment on the young debutant who has almost displaced Bhajji. He not only took 9 wkts but also scored a big 100 which the great tendya could not do. it is because of the likes of sudhir naik only the young talent outside of Mharashtra never encouraged.
if readers recall he the same Sudhir Naik who wadekar took along with him on England Tour of '74. He got him to make special track to enable great son of soil- the magician tendya to score 100th ton. but it so happened that the greatest cricketer ever could not score a total 100 in the match thus letting down waadekar , gavaskar , shastri & naik.
the cricketer who got into the team purely on the merits of being a 'Kar" has the temerity to comment on the young debutant who has almost displaced Bhajji. He not only took 9 wkts but also scored a big 100 which the great tendya could not do. it is because of the likes of sudhir naik only the young talent outside of Mharashtra never encouraged.
Re: sudhir naik
by Vaempuli V on Nov 27, 2011 07:39 PM
what Ashwin said was wrong. Somebody just 3 tests old shouldn't have made such a remark. He should have been prepared to play on any kind of wicket and there is no point in expecting the wicket the way it did during domestic matches.
Re: Re: sudhir naik
by Balaji Krishnamurthy on Nov 28, 2011 06:06 AM
Ashwin is just 3 tests old, but he has been playing first class cricket for the last few years. He was not looking for spin on the first day, he was looking for bounce. He felt the wicket lacked bounce. I think that criticism of the pitch was valid. Ashwin's century proves it. Credit to Ashwin, no credit to the pitch.
I saw the last few overs yesterday. I couldnt understand what Ashwin did last 2 deliveries. He defended the penultimate ball and then hit the last ball and ran. He didnt even run fast and when he reached the other end, he was looking at the fielder and hesitated for a moment and then ran. The other guy was almost at the half pitch. He didnt even try to run the second. If he had got out while trying, very few would have blamed him, in fact he would been appreciated for tryn to win the match.. But he didnt even try. Thats what I am trying to stress here. Now he is trying to blame the curator for pitch. Frankly the pitch was good. Indian pitches are always help batters initial 2-3 days and then start turning. and bombay pitch was also the same. Also this pitch always has been sportive.
Re: Re: Ashwin is to be blamed
by Guru on Nov 27, 2011 07:51 PM
Vaempuli, first of all, you didn't get what ajay meant. Read again and try to understand :)
Re: Re: Re: Ashwin is to be blamed
by Vaempuli V on Nov 27, 2011 07:55 PM
Guru, Aaron was charging down the pitch before Ashwin played a shot. There is some thing called balance when you play a shot and the person who plays the shot can lose his balance and then start running. Do you understand what i mean now? :)
Re: Re: Re: Ashwin is to be blamed
by Vaempuli V on Nov 27, 2011 08:00 PM
If you still don't i meant that is the reason why Aaron was half way down the pitch for the second run. And Aaron would have been run out in the delivery stride itself by the bowler. Go it? :)
Re: Re: Ashwin is to be blamed
by ajay bhathire on Nov 27, 2011 11:32 PM
Vaempuli,
if he had been run out by the bowler, ththe match would have been draw there, i meant by this sentence that "The other guy was almost at the half pitch", varun when he completed the 1st run, he straightaway started for the 2nd one, whereas aswin was slow running the 1st one, he hesitated there for a moment by looking at the fielder and then he started for the 2nd one. if look at the replay, u can see that at the same time varun was almost at the half pitch. Now u tell, it is the last ball of the test match, if u lose a wicket and still the match is a draw, wouldn u try for the 2nd run without any hesitation and try to win there, irrespective of getting out or not. I am to point out that, why did he hesitate to take 2nd run, and lost the chance of winning the match. I agree that he played superbly the match and the series, but this was a blunder made by him.
Re: Re: Re: Ashwin is to be blamed
by Vaempuli V on Nov 28, 2011 04:16 AM
Dear Ajay,
I agree with the fact Ashwin was slow and possibly made a judgment error (not match fixing as some imply). But what i am trying to convey is you cannot compare his running with Aaron because of reasons i have listed. Even if he hadn't hesitated, he wouldn't have been as fast as Aaron, unless there was an error from the wicket keeper in collecting the ball :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ashwin is to be blamed
by ajay bhathire on Nov 28, 2011 03:58 PM
Yes he might not be fast as Varun, he ran very slowly there, he didnt even try to run fast there. For the 2nd run he hesitated. If he had tried to run bit more fast without hesitancy, India might have won there. I am not saying that India would have definitely won, but the chances were there. I am saying that he wasted the opportunity by running a bit slow and hesitating.
He is a smart and quality cricketer.....and thats how he besides bowling could score a 100 which none of a quality batsman could do...guys should shut their mouth and show respect to this young lad
Re: Ashwin a smart cricketer
by supandi supandi on Nov 27, 2011 05:45 PM
there are boys and then there are men. Ashwin is a boy and his attitude will keep him boy for rest of his carrier. Weak people have safety first approach, only brave ones have heart to go for win. I'm sorry Mr. Dsa, yur boy does not have it to become great.
Re: Re: Ashwin a smart cricketer
by Vaempuli V on Nov 27, 2011 07:43 PM
even in the event of a draw people are suggesting he fixed the match. What would have happened if India had lost with Ashwin playing a rash shot of the penultimate ball? These are days of professional cricket, where the numbers matter and all tall talk like going for the kill don't. Let me ask you one thing. Do you think Indian fans have the same levels of maturity as South African, Australian or English fans?
Re: Re: Ashwin a smart cricketer
by Balaji Krishnamurthy on Nov 28, 2011 06:12 AM
India was 8 down, and people would have come down on him like a ton of bricks if they lost their last 2 wickets. It was not the lower order batsman's responsibility to get the runs, it was up to the top order. By the way, Sehwag has had a lot of soft dismissals and has not been able to cross 60 through this series. He is getting out with the bowling at his mercy. Actually Sehwag could have carried India home if not for his soft dismissal. There have been too many soft dismissals for this man. He needs to knuckle down and play a big knock, it's a long time since he has done this
