Now to strengthen India's bowling, we have three good bowlers, Zaheer is one of the best in world, bhajji can be dangerous on his day, ashwin is sharp and can turn a lot on dry pitches. Yuvraj is best part time bowler in world, the problem comes after that followed by useless bowlers like "Munaf lazy patel, piyush hopeless chawla and aashish draculla teeth nehra. These 3 useless bowlers were selected on the instance of biggest joker name krisnamachari srikanth sitting in chennai. Also what prompted them to select Yousuf Patha, that guy is pathetic fielder and drop many catches and once in 10 match player, rest 9 times he dissapointed. We need consistent player in batting. Irfan PAthan, praveen kumar and ishant would have been much better choice than rabit bunny teeth nehra
Re: India must drop Pathan
by chandan gavai on Mar 22, 2011 08:10 AM
i completely agree abt. krisnama-charlie srikant. no credibility still chief selector. worst in resource planning put no efforts to unearth raw talent in the country
Re: India must drop Pathan
by Pradeep Grover on Mar 22, 2011 08:16 AM
Absolutely right. Irfan could definitely have performed all the heroics of yusuf and could have been used as a main strike bowler in place of Munaf Singh. And he is a better fielder. So when he could play the role of two we had place for an extra spinner ( full time or part time ). Trust me it is not Srikanth, it is Dhoni singh who is dictating too much. I want Dhoni singh to learn a lesson but cannot wish that India loses. I love India. I will deal with Dhoni's high headedness some other time.
Re: Re: India must drop Pathan
by akv red on Mar 22, 2011 09:16 AM
pls drop munaf patel..... I don't understand...why has he selected to WC 2011........what talent he has..?????? ..every match he is doing poor fielding...cause 6 to 8 runs loss....he doesn't know how to bat... very slow and poor bowling....irritating lazy face.....
Re: Re: Re: India must drop Pathan
by sunil billawa on Mar 22, 2011 09:39 AM
I agree with some points . But Yousuf pathan . He is second sree, The way Dhoni damaged confidence of sree same way he is doing with yousuf . Wait in QF he will rock . Asish and chawala is hopeless, Chawala is not spinner . Gavaskar quoted that he is bowler who can goggle and occasional leg break
India needs to keep their heads cool and play a 50 over match with calm and composition and not playing to the gallery that wants a boundary of every ball. Players need to go for strokes only after settling down and play with a temperament required to play a test match, 50 over match and 20-20 match depending on the situation. They need to bat with an objective or a target of atleast run a ball and target for about 325-350 (including extras) Overs 1 to 10 should be played like a 50-50 match with about 6 runs per over as the target. 11-15 like a test match. Catch your breath and allow the body to adjust with, settle and score at about 3 to 4 per over. 16-25 like 50-50 at about 6 per over 25-30 like test match at about 4 to 5 per over 31-45 like 50-50 at about 6 per over 46-50 like a 20-20 at about 8-10 per over. Turning the bat around for hitting the ball without judging the ball or respecting the bowler for getting over the stress is not the solution. Respect the bowler and give each ball the respect it deserves. getting out recklessly is no use. Not only batsmen, even bowlers and fielders need to contribute without any compromise. Bowling to the line and to field placement is important. Short and full tosses have no place in these games. Accuracy and good length bowling is import. like Glenn Mcgrath or Richard Hadlee. Fielding has to be top class. like our Solkar or even Azharuddin. Finally luck and Hard work pays. Best of luck team india
Re: 3 in 1
by abhilash mulky on Mar 22, 2011 08:05 AM
The Runs per Over break up which you have given will only lead to a score of 290-300...Then Why do you say that India need to set target at 325- 350?
Re: 3 in 1
by Pradeep Grover on Mar 22, 2011 08:22 AM
Luck pays much more than hard work. I believe Dhoni still has some left after hi sunny days. Good Luck India. I pray God that hard work of our front men has the wings of Luck at right time.
Re: 3 in 1
by abhilash mulky on Mar 22, 2011 08:08 AM
My dear friend, a batsman has to play a game of Cricket Sensibly..thats all.. there is nothing such as 50 over, 20 over or test match batting as such...All you can say is that whether to attack or defend... play according to the pitch, condition etc..All great batsman are equally efficient in any form of the game, be it test or 20-20 match.
India needs to keep their heads cool and play a 50 over match with calm and composition and not playing to the gallery that wants a boundary of every ball. Players need to go for strokes only after settling down and play with a temperament required to play a test match, 50 over match and 20-20 match depending on the situation. They need to bat with an objective or a target of atleast run a ball and target for about 325-350 (including extras) Overs 1 to 10 should be played like a 50-50 match with about 6 runs per over as the target. 11-15 like a test match. Catch your breath and allow the body to adjust with, settle and score at about 3 to 4 per over. 16-25 like 50-50 at about 6 per over 25-30 like test match at about 4 to 5 per over 31-45 like 50-50 at about 6 per over 46-50 like a 20-20 at about 8-10 per over. Turning the bat around for hitting the ball without judging the ball or respecting the bowler for getting over the stress is not the solution. Respect the bowler and give each ball the respect it deserves. getting out recklessly is no use. Not only batsmen, even bowlers and fielders need to contribute without any compromise. Bowling to the line and to field placement is important. Short and full tosses have no place in these games. Accuracy and good length bowling is import. like Glenn Mcgrath or Richard Hadlee. Fielding has to be top class. like our Solkar or even Azharuddin. Finally luck and Hard work pays. Best of luck team india
India needs to keep their heads cool and play a 50 over match with calm and composition and not playing to the gallery that wants a boundary of every ball. Players need to go for strokes only after settling down and play with a temperament required to play a test match, 50 over match and 20-20 match depending on the situation. They need to bat with an objective or a target of atleast run a ball and target for about 325-350 (including extras) Overs 1 to 10 should be played like a 50-50 match with about 6 runs per over as the target. 11-15 like a test match. Catch your breath and allow the body to adjust with, settle and score at about 3 to 4 per over. 16-25 like 50-50 at about 6 per over 25-30 like test match at about 4 to 5 per over 31-45 like 50-50 at about 6 per over 46-50 like a 20-20 at about 8-10 per over. Turning the bat around for hitting the ball without judging the ball or respecting the bowler for getting over the stress is not the solution. Respect the bowler and give each ball the respect it deserves. getting out recklessly is no use. Not only batsmen, even bowlers and fielders need to contribute without any compromise. Bowling to the line and to field placement is important. Short and full tosses have no place in these games. Accuracy and good length bowling is import. like Glenn Mcgrath or Richard Hadlee. Fielding has to be top class. like our Solkar or even Azharuddin. Finally luck and Hard work pays. Best of luck team india
wat a crap ...we had better player and think tank. only diff is nothing going in fav of india and over confident captain. Dhoni should have to consult sachin and ZAK b4 taking decision which earlier captains do , sply Ganguly, he was adamant but always consult sachin who had better sense of cricket. bad luck with sachin's captaincy is , he was not having good resources, but still he tried to manage
Re: its called salute to rising sun
by ramakrishnan s on Mar 22, 2011 09:32 AM
I am amused at your comments. If sachin was so good a captaining a side, then why did he give up captaincy? Sachin was never a captaincy material. Ganguly backed his players, showed faith in those who he believed in and hence built a side. That is what captaincy is all about, buddy!
Indians should do away their obsession with centuries and play for winning. If century comes on the way it's ok. But these Heroes slow down the scoring rate drastically when they reach 70s to aim centuries. The scoring rate is slowed in this process even when ordinary bowling is on . The batsman in the other end also is cautious to allow this Hero to boost his personal records. When the century is scored the HERO simply gets out as if trying to improve the scoring rate.] As most balls are consumed in the process of century, the incoming batsman has to immediately go for big hits and he also gets out. So the defending total becomes less. As it is our bowlers can defend only a score above 400. Think of the situation.
Re: Centuries Not Required
by anaida raza on Mar 22, 2011 09:13 AM
Sachin record ODI 33 centuries out of 48 contributed to win
there are 33 matches Sachin scored century and India won
these many centuries many established batsman have not scored in life time in all forms of game. dont write foolish comments
ODI matches won when Sachin scored between 90 and 99 Century does not matter even these number records are more than total centuries scored by many good ODI batsmen in world cricket.
95 v Pakistan 1998 98 v Pakistan 2003 97 v Sri Lanka 2003 93 v Sri Lanka 2005 95 v Pakistan 2006 93 v South Africa 2007 99 v England 2007 94 v England 2007 97 v Pakistan 2007 91 v Australia 2008 96* v Sri Lanka 2009 ODI
there 13 other times Sachin scored 80 to 89 and India won So 24 times even without scoring century India won
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these many centuries many established batsman gave not scored in life time in all forms of game.
KK Padmanabhan has made some very valid points. When playing Australia one should never relax for it has the will power to fight back.There are a few things to look into. a) Munaf is a lazy player. His fielding and batting are zero. He has gone down in pace and can be pradictable if the wickets don't suit.If attacked he gets disappointed quickly. If Sreesanth is handled properly he brings pace and swing into the equation plus he is a better fielder/batsman than Munaf. b) Yusuf Pathan has been erractic in both roles. If Dhoni had the sense to send Raina before him against SA, the batsman would have had a chance to build his innings and get back his confidence. His brilliant fielding is needed badly to stem runs. His power hitting and left hand batting is an advantage. Thanks to Dhoni we don't know if Raina has the confidence now. c) The batting powerplay is India's bugbear. Why not take it much earlier when two batsmen are settled and scoring freely?It will get the opposition to use their best bowlers to stem the tide or take wickets.In this event they will be left with less overs to bowl "at the death". The lesser bowlers would not have the same impact against India's middle and lower orders.Against WI Dhoni could have taken it when Yuvraj and Kohli were going strong. Against SA he could have done it when Tendulkar and Gambhir had the opposition on its knees. Dhoni's stubborness is costing India dearly.
Re: India v Australia QF
by Pradeep Grover on Mar 22, 2011 08:38 AM
Munaf, Nehra, Piyush are definitely bad choice for a big stage. Yusuf could have been tried outside world cup to double check his dependability. You cannot use 5-6 world cup matches to try him out.
And 9 wickets for 29 runs still haunts me. Though I am trying to be pessimistic, anything can happen.
1) when Sachin scores India loses ...look at my post " Guys" below"
2) Sachin scores 100s while team is setting a targets not while chasing a target.
......If a century results in a win how does it matter whether it is scored while chasing or setting a target?
If Sachin have had equal no of 100s while setting and chasing a target....these stupids would have questioned...."he scored them with both hands...how many had he scored with one hand...blah blah..".
There is limit to 000stupidity000.........but these losers on this forum have crossed all the limit of 000stupidity00.
Re: Objections by some stupids
by siva kumar on Mar 22, 2011 06:40 AM
YOu stupid,Understand one thing! Indians should do away their obsession with centuries and play for winning. If century comes on the way it's ok. But these Heroes slow down drastically when they reach 70s to aim centuries. The scoring rate is slowed even when ordinary bowling is on in this process. The batsman in the other end also is cautious to allow this Hero to boost his personal records. When the century is scored the HERO simply gets out as if trying to improve the scoring rate.] As most balls are consumed in the process of century, the incoming batsman has to immediately go for big hits and he also gets out. So the defending total becomes less. As it is our bowlers can defend only a score above 400. Think of the situation.
Re: Re: Objections by some stupids
by raj on Mar 22, 2011 08:01 AM
well said SIva...i am trying to say same thing in past few days but dumbs like LG r blind follower of a gr8 as they don't wanna to c wht is truth.
Re: Re: Objections by some stupids
by abhilash mulky on Mar 22, 2011 08:15 AM
Shiva, I will agree with your thoughts..but same can not be said about Sachin.. If he is acoring a double hundred after 20 years of playing Cricket, then it itself speaks volumes about that player.. Can you imagine any Other player who has maintained the same fitness or hunger for success?? I am not a Sachin fan But Sachin is Sachin.
Re: Re: Objections by some stupids
by anaida raza on Mar 22, 2011 09:14 AM
Sachin record ODI 33 centuries out of 48 contributed to win
there are 33 matches Sachin scored century and India won
these many centuries many established batsman have not scored in life time in all forms of game. dont write foolish comments
ODI matches won when Sachin scored between 90 and 99 Century does not matter even these number records are more than total centuries scored by many good ODI batsmen in world cricket.
95 v Pakistan 1998 98 v Pakistan 2003 97 v Sri Lanka 2003 93 v Sri Lanka 2005 95 v Pakistan 2006 93 v South Africa 2007 99 v England 2007 94 v England 2007 97 v Pakistan 2007 91 v Australia 2008 96* v Sri Lanka 2009 ODI
there 13 other times Sachin scored 80 to 89 and India won So 24 times even without scoring century India won
And
these many centuries many established batsman gave not scored in life time in all forms of game. dont write foolish comments
Do you think these losers like parvaiz khan will understand logic and facts and stop bashing Sachin? Never....Sachin bashing is OXYGEN to them.
Common sense will tell anyone why a team loses or win when its players score century.
A team will lose despite its player scoring 100 because : 1) all other failing to contribute 2) opposition gifting wickets the way WI did in last match 3) if the tesm's bowling is weaker than that of the opposition
Re: Re: Guys
by parvaiz khan on Mar 22, 2011 07:11 AM
Mr LG,I like sachin like millions of Indians but i was conveying we have fixations of talking about him.Is world cup more important than sachin centuries.Sachin is unmatched in test matches but in 50 0vers and 20/20 I do not think so ,this is my opinion I do not care what you think ,sehwag,yuvraj,dhoni ,ganguly and others too played great games and in 1 day games statistics are not true reflections of performances.
Re: Re: Re: Guys
by anaida raza on Mar 22, 2011 09:15 AM
Sachin record ODI 33 centuries out of 48 contributed to win
there are 33 matches Sachin scored century and India won
these many centuries many established batsman have not scored in life time in all forms of game. dont write foolish comments
ODI matches won when Sachin scored between 90 and 99 Century does not matter even these number records are more than total centuries scored by many good ODI batsmen in world cricket.
95 v Pakistan 1998 98 v Pakistan 2003 97 v Sri Lanka 2003 93 v Sri Lanka 2005 95 v Pakistan 2006 93 v South Africa 2007 99 v England 2007 94 v England 2007 97 v Pakistan 2007 91 v Australia 2008 96* v Sri Lanka 2009 ODI
there 13 other times Sachin scored 80 to 89 and India won So 24 times even without scoring century India won
And
these many centuries many established batsman gave not scored in life time in all forms of game.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Guys
by Abhijit Sarkar on Mar 22, 2011 10:15 AM
mate... you just published some invaluable information.. good pick to let other understand the current problem in Indian team viz. lack of good and sharp fielding and bowling and inability to accelarate in the slog over!!!
