Is Dave Richardson on drugs or what???? Anyone who saw the game could make out that despite the impact being 2.5 metres ahead of the stumps, the ball would have still hit the stumps bang in the centre....
The 2.5 meter rule works only in cases where the pitches are bouncy...On indian dust bowls, it doesn't matter because the ball just doesn't bounce.... And if that is the argument then why use hawkeye at all - in cases of impact 2 meters ahead of stumps???? The guy has completely lost it....
Re: so guys just read the rules and stop using your mind...!!!!
by Against Pseudos on Mar 02, 2011 04:22 PM
Mithun:
3 questions on LBW 1. Ball pitched outside leg going to hit the stumps. Notout is a stupid rule? 2. Ball hitting outside off but going to hit the stumps. Notout is stupid? 3. Batsman hit the ball, off the edge headed for stumps but hits pad. Notout stupid rule?? ;-)
If you failed to answer St_upid, then you must be on drugs. ;-)
The problem with UDRS is predictive technology. e.g. Hawkeye which predicts how the ball will move.
No sport in the world will ever accept any such rule. Can you imagine in baseball calling ball/strike based on predictive technology? (for those of u familiar with baseball).
Cricket too should junk the predictive technology and only use "factual" technology. e.g. did ball pitch in line, did the ball impact in line, was there an edge (using hotspot), did it hit bat before pad or pad before bat, etc.
Reviews should only focus on this and get rid of all "predictive" technology like which way the ball will move, etc. That will take care of all the controversy.
Let umpires judgement on ball's trajectory remain final and let UDRS only be used for correcting factual errors.
Re: dhoni is good for his ticket cheking job nt for cricket
by RAHUL KHANNA on Mar 02, 2011 04:17 PM
pl let me know how you manage to upload this photograph in yellow Tshirt instead of actual photograph. tnks, Rahul
that ball hitting the middle stump, towards the bottom. There can be a margin box added to the URDS system if the distance is more than 2.5 m, the decsion can be bats men favour, what kind of rules are this? if it's in line, irrespective of distance batsmen should be given out, other wise the ball hitting off and middle stick ,a batsmen would come way forward and take it on the pads. HOW FOOLISH RULES ICC, CHANGE IT FROM THE BOOKS,if technology been used.
Re: Rules are meant for fools
by Against Pseudos on Mar 02, 2011 04:11 PM
Bhat:
3 questions on LBW
1. Ball pitched outside leg going to hit the stumps. Notout is a stupid rule? 2. Ball hitting outside off but going to hit the stumps. Notout is stupid? 3. Batsman hit the ball, off the edge headed for stumps but hits pad. Notout stupid rule??
Re: Rules are meant for fools
by deadman on Mar 02, 2011 04:27 PM
ok.when decession doesn't go in india's favour it's poor umpiring.else no comments.this is hypocracy
Dhoni has been the most luckiest capatins of all times in any sports. He has not done anything great to be given so much media space. He was lucky to win the T20 WC just because Misbah was foolish in one delivery. Otherwise India would have lost that match. Later whatever India has won, it has been due to some exceptional batting, fielding or bowling by other players of the team rather than by Dhoni. Now Dhoni knows that all the hype about India winnning the WC will burst. He needs to create some excuse for the same. Here he is making this small issue bigger. He should have complianed about this before the tournament. The rules are rules for all teams. Once accepted, teams will have to adhere to it no matter what. Talking against the rules now makes no sense. Such rules are not made to favour one team. At Bangalore, India was at the receiving end, may be the next time we will benefit. So there is no justification against the rules at this point in time. Dhoni has been in poor form as a batsmen for many series now. His place as a player is at stake. He is there because of that combination of Srinivasan-Shrikanth-CSK. At Bangalore, when he saw the wicket falling at the batsmen powerplay, he thought he can make some runs by promoting himself. He failed. He has been a poor leader. It showed when he openly criticised Sreeshant on his behaviour. Dhoni could have done this within the 4 walls. Dhoni should stop doing cheap tricks and not bring shame to the country.
Re: Dhoni-the-captain-with-a-mole-at-the-right-place
by ALLADI on Mar 02, 2011 04:15 PM
Ian Bell was NOT OUT Dhoni is incorrect. If you want to change the rules same have to be discussed in proper forum. Not now. Middle of any tournament. Being captain Dhoni must know the rules, then only he should put any comments If any batsman go for a long forward and ball hits on his pad, 2.5 mtr distance, it is NOT OUT, whether ballis hitting wicket or not. Again, when the ball pitchs out side the leg stump and hits on the pad batsman is NOT OUT , may be ball hits on the pad infront of wicket, may be his leg is 1 mm distance from the wicket. These are the LBW rules you have to accept
Dhoni is right here. Do not adultrate the system with human thinking. If the bal had hit on the extremity of the stumps (eg the bails or the outer edge), then it umpire decision is justified, but the ball hit the middle stump, towards the bottom. Was this conveyed to the umpire (He can also see on the giant screen). There can be a margin box added to the URDS system if the distance is more than 2.5 m, and if the balls hits in that margin, then it is deemed "NOT OUT". If this is done then we can purely rely on the system. Either use the URDS or eliminate it. If you use it then understand the limitations. You should also note that a review is wasted, if it is denied.
Re: Add some margin ti URDS if more than 2.5 m
by deadman on Mar 02, 2011 04:33 PM
an adultrated man like dhoni feels everything around him as adultrated
Re: Re: Add some margin ti URDS if more than 2.5 m
by bigben bigben on Mar 02, 2011 04:03 PM
According to ICC and apparently you also, the logic of 2.5m is that accuracy is completely unreliable beyond 2.5m. But at 2.49m the accuracy is suddenly so remarkable that out and not-out become no brainers.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Add some margin ti URDS if more than 2.5 m
by bigben bigben on Mar 02, 2011 04:23 PM
I was being sarcastic, for those of you who are reading my msg literally.
haha nice riprimand...the skipper has gone too far while criticizing. He had been forgetting one thing while speaking that he can't say things like 'oh no I don't know the rule so it is harsh decision'. I was laughing when he was giving press conference and really thinking about this reprimand by ICC. I wounder how can Strauss escaped as he too showed his inquisitiveness...may be he was saved coz he was not at receiving end of the decision !
If BCCI, Dhoni etc had permitted the use of UDRS technology during the series they played prior to the World Cup they would have known about its shortcomings / limitations earlier. They could have taken up the same with the ICC earlier. Dhoni can crib now, but he will have to live with the rules as they are for now
Re: Too late now
by bigben bigben on Mar 02, 2011 04:06 PM
Sure. He will live with it. But you can be damned sure that India will never support UDRS in present form and I would totally support India's stand.
If BCCI, Dhoni etc had permitted the use of UDRS technology during the series they played prior to the World Cup they would have known about its shortcomings / limitations earlier. They could have taken up the same with the ICC earlier. Dhoni can crib now, but he will have to live with the rules as they are for now
