Re: What a masala?
by V SR on Feb 24, 2011 10:01 PM
Commentry: He just removed the zip, took the gaurd off, and suddenly it slipped and fallen on his kit and the kit jumped and pushed his box and the box turned and hit the TV which is just 15 feet away. Wov, a fit case to be bollywood story and put SRK in this position, it will be super hit movie.
Re: Re: What a masala?
by Against Pseudos on Feb 25, 2011 03:53 AM
V SR:
You should have released the movie already, considering you have the video of the incident... :)
:) Yet Ponting accepted responsibility, apologised and didn't produce witnesses who were ready to testify that he merely said "Maa,ki" to the TV... ;-) Curious... :)
Re: Re: Re: What a masala?
by Andy Louis on Feb 25, 2011 04:39 AM
Harby was thrown to the legals for that word on Pontings behest. Not a single Australian tried to find out what Harby actually said. Like the opportunity given to ponting to give his views in the case of the Box 'flying' myth. For the racist saga.. the official version as read out in the court, Symonds said he did not hear it, Clarke did not, Ponting did not, Hayden did but what he heard was something like "big monkey". The tape was shown to the judges who were more than convinced that an Indian will never use a smaller word like Monkey (which is apparently a racial abuse in Australia but not in South Africa as was evident from the CWG games where a South african used the same word for Indians with ignorance to the racist connection to that animal). Anyway, the point is that Harby did use the stinging hindi abuse as correctly supported by the most cleanest player in modern day cricket the honourable Sachin Tendulkar, rather than the lame english 'monkey' as raised by the bunch of crooks. The judge was kiwi and he was more than convinced that the Aussies were lying. Indians don't give too much stress on race (caste- well maybe, but you must be joking if Indians have been racists against blacks ever) Harby was prejudiced by Ponting and Mike procter and completely pushed to destroy his career Ponting being Harby's bunny and adversary for ages. Harby was marginalised by the Australians.
Re: Re: Re: What a masala?
by Andy Louis on Feb 25, 2011 04:46 AM
Moreover read the list of Umpiring controverseys during that single match. You will understand why not many countries have been able to win test matches in Australia before 2007. India broke Australian hegemony with that Historical tour. The umpires were brought into focus who bowed down to aussie pressure even though they were neutral umpires. Ponting, Hayden Symonds, Clarke and Hussey were finished once umpires were brought to books. The result, Australia lost 2 series after that Indian tour which India should have won 2-1. Australia lost to the South Africans and the English in the summers that followed. Australia will never be able to raise its ugly head now. India is here to stay now. Ponting is the last face of that ugly Australian chapter and India will sign him off very soon.
Re: Re: Re: Re: What a masala?
by Against Pseudos on Feb 25, 2011 07:22 AM
Louis:
If you read the Australian team composition before 2007, you'd know the reason why not many countries have been able to win test matches in Australia before 2007... :)
BTW, the Umpires bowed down to BCCI pressure and were kicked out suitably.
You would no doubt be shocked by Bucknor's giving Sachin (154*) not out in that same match, or Laxman not out; or Ponting LBW when he was not? :)
And any idea what made our last 3 wickets tumble in the last over of the otherwise 100% drawn test match - that too to the rank part time spinner Clarke?
I have no doubt that India is here to stay now, don't get me wrong. But please stick to facts in these discussions. Australia did raise its "ugly head" in OUR home series in 2008 WITHOUT any Bucknor and despite Sachin's heroic 175 at Hyderabad, they still took the series 4-2.
They are still holding the Champions Trophy.. They still won against England 6-1 despite people like you predicting a 0-7 whitewash..
But you can continue building your mental image of Ponting if you want to... :)
Re: Re: Re: What a masala?
by Andy Louis on Feb 25, 2011 04:36 AM
Harby was thrown to the legals for that word on Pontings behest. Not a single Australian tried to find out what Harby actually said. Like the opportunity given to ponting to give his views in the case of the Box 'flying' myth. For the racist saga.. the official version as read out in the court, Symonds said he did not hear it, Clarke did not, Ponting did not, Hayden did but what he heard was something like "big monkey". The tape was shown to the judges who were more than convinced that an Indian will never use a smaller word like Monkey (which is apparently a racial abuse in Australia but not in South Africa as was evident from the CWG games where a South african used the same word for Indians with ignorance to the racist connection to that animal). Anyway, the point is that Harby did use the stinging hindi abuse as correctly supported by the most cleanest player in modern day cricket the honourable Sachin Tendulkar, rather than the lame english 'monkey' as raised by the bunch of crooks. The judge was kiwi and he was more than convinced that the Aussies were lying. Indians don't give too much stress on race (caste- well maybe, but you must be joking if Indians have been racists against blacks ever) Harby was prejudiced by Ponting and Mike procter and completely pushed to destroy his career Ponting being Harby's bunny and adversary for ages. Harby was marginalised by the Australians.
Re: Re: Re: Re: What a masala?
by Andy Louis on Feb 25, 2011 09:03 AM
Do a wiki and check the howlers by benson and buknor in OZ favour. Sydney 2008 and that series belonged to India that was robbed by the Aussies. The herald screamed next day that the Aussies were disgraceful and Kumble the most gracious captain even in defeat which should not have been. India had decimated the Australians in Sydney after the MCG carnage by the Australians. Aussies can keep ranting about the last over victory where Michael Clarke who does not even bowl in grade cricket was able to take 3. Indians had calculated the turn and were about to finish but for the howlers that the 2 stooge umpires did. After the victory came the racism allegatIons by none other than ponting to kill harby and cover the match issues made by aussies. But everyone can see what has become Of Ponting. Harby is still the best spinner in the world and ponting is now the best loser after losing 2 ashes in a trot.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What a masala?
by Against Pseudos on Feb 25, 2011 09:24 AM
Louis:
The same Wiki also talks about Sachin's howler, VVS howler and POnting howler..
And FYI, I agree that the umpiring in that match was extremely bad. It deprived us of a possible Win. But that we lost that otherwise 100% drawn match was purely based on that LAST over of the Test bowled by Michael Clarke... All of the hoo-haa that followed was becoz of the totally unexpected loss that shocked our fan base...
FYI, I am not an Aussie, and I am not ranting about that last over, but the point remains that there WAS that last over...
As to umpiring howlers, that was NOT the first time in cricket history, and I can assure you that it was not for the last time either... Its just that who chooses to shout out loud and get umpires kicked out rather than take it in their stride as what Aussies did during one of those 2 Ashes you mentioned, which by the way included a doubtful catch by Strauss...
You are of course free to hold your own views, as I am sure you'll concede I am too... :)
All is NOT well for India int he coming days! All Injured players in the team! They are hiding their injuries! Sachin, Sewag, Nehra, Yuvi, .....the list is long!
Latest news! Yuvi returned hurt in Bangalore during practice! Nehra is still taking rest in a stretcher in some hospital for his backache! He barely completed 7 overs in a warm up match before transported to Hospital! Nehra is in the team - just because of Dhoni's friendship! Yuvi has never proved he is fit and good for batting or fielding! When English guy said: "Yuvi is not good any more. He is getting fat now" we all declared war on that guy! - Yuvi is in the team just because Dhoni's friendship! Nobody knows about Bhaji's condition! He is not showing up for too much practice sessions! Most of the Other players are also not showing up for practice sessions ONLY TO HIDE THEIR
INJURIES!
THEY WILL PLAY IN THE COMING MATCHES LIKE PREGNANT WOMEN!
What happend to BCCI and Dhoni? They were definetly aware of their injuries before
selection was made!
OUR TEAM IS SHOWING TOO MUCH HIPE BUT IN ESSENCE IT IS A PAPER TIGER!
Interesting explanation that the TV was hit by his box.... His box must be a bouncing box made of "flubber"( A classic movie made by Walt Disney many years ago) !!!
Re: Ponting's box
by V SR on Feb 24, 2011 10:03 PM
No..no.. The TV moved automatically and hit the box and broken on its own. Have you seen Tom & Jerry recently. Anything can happen with Ponting. Do these Australians still have face value?
Re: Re: Ponting's box
by Against Pseudos on Feb 25, 2011 03:52 AM
V SR:
:) Yet Ponting accepted responsibility, apologised and didn't produce witnesses who were ready to testify that he merely said "Maa,ki" to the TV... ;-) Curious... :)
Re: damaged
by MeetFireWithFire on Feb 24, 2011 06:46 PM
Ponting can do anything to defend that this incident is just an accident. He could infact bring all the laws from Physics (gravity, momentum etc) to his defence!
Re: Re: Re: damaged
by MeetFireWithFire on Feb 24, 2011 07:15 PM
Physical Damage or Partly damaged. It is an action caused from height of angst who thinks that he is a superior race.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: damaged
by MeetFireWithFire on Feb 24, 2011 07:36 PM
Aussies have to prove that they are not racists!! I mean't racism as only Asians cross the line of control according to ICC. I would wish fairer punishment for all
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: damaged
by Against Pseudos on Feb 24, 2011 07:40 PM
MFWF:
Punishments are commiserate with breaches...
But I can understand where you are coming from if you wanted an accidental damage to the TV punished by umpteen matches ban... and then get disappointed "as if" ICC was behaving as Racists under the Indian... :)
Re: damaged
by Against Pseudos on Feb 24, 2011 06:45 PM
Terry Thomas:
True... whoever heard of a LCD TV that gets damaged? :) The panel is obviously made of Titanium and only Dynamite can even dent it slightly... right? :)
Re: Re: damaged
by Terry Thomas on Feb 24, 2011 06:57 PM
:) it is not about the panel or anything. i was just thinking how heavy his groin protector is going to be. it must have been one hell of a throw to cause the damage mentioned. than again i could be wrong. truth or no truth ponting may be a violent personality. but he comes forward and says his wrongs as wrongs. But what i want to say is his frustration. He was run out but he did not want to be run out. He wanted to score. He was disappointed with himself. But throwing is things is not a good solution of course.
Re: Re: Re: damaged
by Against Pseudos on Feb 24, 2011 06:59 PM
Terry Thomas:
Do you know the damage? Then how are you making evaluative judgements? :)
The set wasn't SMASHED... an LCD panel can stop displaying without any "brute" force being applied to it... unlike a CRT, which needs to be smashed to make it inoperative... :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: damaged
by Against Pseudos on Feb 24, 2011 07:06 PM
Thomas:
My apologies... I thought you had followed this story from yesterday where Rediff (and other Indian media) advertised it as the PONTING SMASHES LCD story, only to tone it down after GCA made the actual "LCD not physically damaged, yet not displaying picture in some area" statement...
Re: Re: Re: Re: damaged
by Terry Thomas on Feb 24, 2011 07:13 PM
i believe strongly it is this frustration and anger that has enabled to list three world cups.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: damaged
by Terry Thomas on Feb 24, 2011 07:17 PM
I sometimes dont like the way ponting comments our players. completely unprofessional and outright rude. but if you look at the other side to it. it shows his heart. I am here to win. btt a really bad way of saying it
Its true that Indian Cricket Board is richest in Worl but ICC has always failed to nail Australian Players inspite of their repeated charges found and admitted guilty against many players and more particularly by Captian Himself.
We need to find a reason behind this.
We have a Captain Cool and Australians Has a Captain with Volcanic Trait
Re: ICC Fears Australian Board and Players fidn a reason
by MeetFireWithFire on Feb 24, 2011 06:32 PM
ICC President may be an Indian but majority of its executives are from Eng/Aus which would mean racism...
Re: Re: ICC Fears Australian Board and Players fidn a reason
by Against Pseudos on Feb 24, 2011 06:56 PM
MFWF:
True... The only way to prove they are not racists is to give a life ban to Ponting, and put him in Life imprisonment... after all how dare he fling his gear in the dressing room... right? :)
Re: Re: Re: ICC Fears Australian Board and Players fidn a reason
by MeetFireWithFire on Feb 24, 2011 07:12 PM
No one asserted a life ban here... So where is the RACISM here. Well, ICC (members from Aus/Eng) have always proctected the players from their region. We could give tons of examples. McGrath/Sarwan, Slater/Dravid, Watson/Gauti, (Bhajji,Ganguly)/(Symmno,Ponting,Gilly). All one asks is a fairer punishment in the same vein as that of Asians..
Re: Re: Re: Re: ICC Fears Australian Board and Players fidn a rea
by Against Pseudos on Feb 24, 2011 07:17 PM
MFWF:
So Darrel Lehman was Asian? Hansie Cronje was Asian? Shahid Afridi was Australian to be let off without ban for ball-biting? Bhajji was Australian for let off in the Symonds incidence? BCCI is Australian? To get Bucknor kicked out from mid-series becoz of erroneous judgements including those favourable to us?
McGrath Sarwan was a on-field banter in which Sarwan wittily responded to McGrath, instead of shouting RACISM... :) Where does Gilly enter the picture? Even die-hard Aussie haters on these forums accept him along with Lee as the milder Aussies...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ICC Fears Australian Board and Players fidn a
by MeetFireWithFire on Feb 24, 2011 07:53 PM
Gilly along with Clarke and Ponting who appealed violently for a bump catch! The nature of punishment meted to Asians prove Racism against Asian players.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ICC Fears Australian Board and Players fidn a
by Against Pseudos on Feb 24, 2011 07:35 PM
MFWF:
If Bump catches proved racism, Dhoni would be racist too... Search youtube for "Spirit of India" and watch away.. :) Maybe you'll ask Why he wasn't banned the same way you wanted Gilly or Punter or Slater banned... :)
BTW, the Ganguly catch was claimed by Clarke, who incidentally took the last three wickets in the FINAL over of that otherwise 100% drawn match... which is where it all flared up... in order to justify why we lost that match.. :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ICC Fears Australian Board and Players fidn a
by MeetFireWithFire on Feb 24, 2011 07:30 PM
Gilly is not a saint. It is the same Gilly who claimed Ganguly out of a bumped ball along with Punter who went one step further by raising his finger as if he is all powerful. Gilly may walk if catch is taken when he is batting. But he could also delibrately appeal for catch behind even for a bump ball.
Afridi have got tons of punishments. But have you seen the Slater/Dravid episode in a test match. Slater abused Dravid as Dravid stood his ground as catch taken by Slater is bump ball. Well, as for Bhajji episode is concerned, provocator (Symmo) according to ICC is always with in the line of control. Only Asians cross the line of control according to ICC. I DOn't know why??
Re: ICC Fears Australian Board and Players fidn a reason
by Against Pseudos on Feb 24, 2011 06:46 PM
Krishna Kumar:
A person flings his kit in the dressing room and damages a TV. He unconditionally apologises instead of manufacturing witnesses who swear that he merely said "Maa,Ki" to the TV... That clearly calls for a life ban and a life imprisonment.... Vrey rightly pointed out by you... :)
Re: Re: ICC Fears Australian Board and Players fidn a reason
by ramakrishnan s on Feb 24, 2011 07:17 PM
Agreed AP, Ponting is an angel who has apologised for his gentlemanly act. By the way, were you there when that `Maa ki' episode took place?
It is too comical for a man to deny his actions. He claims that there are many versions doing rounds. But one of the rounds he wishes us to see is "View this Incident as an accident". He would get all the Physics laws to his defence (gravity, momentum, acceleration etc).
Re: Ponting: TV set is not hit by me
by Against Pseudos on Feb 24, 2011 06:43 PM
MFWF:
True. We should stick to the original SMASHED TV version of Rediff... whatever be the subsequent statement of Rediff... :) Let's get all the Physics laws to prove that Ponting went up to the TV and Smashed it with his bat and then kicked it for good measure.. :) GCA would no doubt have tried to cover up for Ponting and claimed that the TV didn't appear to be physically damaged and in that attempt to help Ponting they went and complained to the ICC... :)
Re: Re: Ponting: TV set is not hit by me
by MeetFireWithFire on Feb 24, 2011 07:14 PM
Physical Damage or Partly damaged. It is an action caused from height of angst who thinks that he is a superior race.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ponting: TV set is not hit by me
by MeetFireWithFire on Feb 24, 2011 07:36 PM
Aussies have to prove that they are not racists!! I mean't racism as only Asians cross the line of control according to ICC. I would wish fairer punishment for all
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ponting: TV set is not hit by me
by Against Pseudos on Feb 24, 2011 07:39 PM
MFWF:
Punishments are commiserate with breaches...
But I can understand where you are coming from if you wanted an accidental damage to the TV punished by umpteen matches ban... and then get disappointed "as if" ICC was behaving as Racists under the Indian... :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ponting: TV set is not hit by me
by MeetFireWithFire on Feb 24, 2011 07:57 PM
Can Gauti say that he accidently hit Watson during that Watson/Gauti episode and escape the ban??
Re: Against psuedos
by Against Pseudos on Feb 24, 2011 06:47 PM
No physical damage to the TV. But part of its screen doesn't display the picture.. It's on a Rediff story "Ponting to be charged.."..
