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The harsh reality of India's debacle in England


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Sameer Bhagwat
My 1 cent
by Sameer Bhagwat on Aug 24, 2011 05:37 AM

Need changes... build future Test team.. for immediate Future

On foriegn tracks
1) Gambhir
2) Shewag
3) Pujara
4) Rohit
5) Kohli
6) Pace allrounder ( need to be identified)
7) Gautam or Dhoni
8) Aaron
9) Ishant
10) Pankaj Singh/Umesh Yadav
11) Iqbal Abdullah

For Indian/subcontinental conditions
1) Gambhir
2) Sehwag
3) Pujara
4) Rohit
5) Kohli
6) Yuvraj(spinning all rounder)
7) Dhoni/Gautam
8)Ishant
9)Aaron
10)Iqbal Abdullah
11) Ashwin

With this team we will start winning in 1-2 years consistently.






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Mature Stud
My two cents on our team
by Mature Stud on Aug 24, 2011 04:54 AM  | Hide replies


Gambhir - Unfortunate Series for him. He need to be bit tougher though

Sehwag- No Comment, Bonehead attitude

Dravid - The Best

Sachin - Talent in undeiable, need to be well prepared

VVS - Time to retire

Raina - Not ready for Test

Yuvaraj - Should never play Test cricket

Harbhajan - Time to move on to the new spinner

Pravin - Hard worker but Too slow a bowler for Test?

Ishant - Good effort but needs to work discipline

Sreesanth - The kid is a joker, total joke and shouldn' be in the team..

Mukund - Too little too late

Munaf - Lazy worthless, will not last five days in test..


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Mature Stud
Re: My two cents on our team
by Mature Stud on Aug 24, 2011 04:56 AM

Zaheerkhan - Lazy, Fat and Overpaid - No pride for his nation

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prasheen mothukuri
Re: Re: My two cents on our team
by prasheen mothukuri on Aug 24, 2011 05:16 AM
Ishant is one dimensional bowler. No swing,no seam,no pace,no brain,no variation

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Spitting Cobra
Re: Re: Re: My two cents on our team
by Spitting Cobra on Aug 24, 2011 05:43 AM
I think you're right. He does need some variation. But he did ok in England though..


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Spitting Cobra
Re: My two cents on our team
by Spitting Cobra on Aug 24, 2011 05:21 AM


ENTIRELY AGREE!!!!

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vimalan sadhasivam
Re: My two cents on our team
by vimalan sadhasivam on Aug 24, 2011 07:00 AM
so Dravid scores good in this series after 3-4 years and he becomes best whereas one of the top batsmen of the last few years Laxman needs to be dropped because he didn't do well...what a logic

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Injun Abhi
Re: Re: My two cents on our team
by Injun Abhi on Aug 24, 2011 07:51 AM
Looks like he is judging them based on the current series..

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Ravi House
Re: Re: My two cents on our team
by Ravi House on Aug 24, 2011 12:15 PM
Dear Vimalan,

Most of the people do not know cricket in this blog. They only go by the latest performance. Not only laxman but also sachin performed extremely well in the last 2 years and in the process india got to the number one spot which they lost now. But for these people they do not want sachin and laxman since they failed in one series in which someone had done better.

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Injun Abhi
Re: My two cents on our team
by Injun Abhi on Aug 24, 2011 07:54 AM

Based on each of them performed in England, I tend to agree.. Harbhajan must be dropped thoug..


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revenge
Re: My two cents on our team
by revenge on Aug 24, 2011 10:02 AM
I agree with everythin exept vvs laxman

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Sunil Vaidya
Re: My two cents on our team
by Sunil Vaidya on Aug 24, 2011 11:28 AM
what about MSD? your 2 cents on him...

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prasheen mothukuri
Tendya and spineless bowling
by prasheen mothukuri on Aug 24, 2011 04:52 AM  | Hide replies

Reasons are :
1.Tendya pathetic performance and as usual his technical weakness against incoming,inswinging good length bowling that seam,pace,bounce,swing,spin. He have had 4 lbw decisions in this series. He holds the most number of lbw dismissals on foriegn pitches.
2.Spineless and wayward bowling by Sreeshant,Ishant,RP Singh spinners except Praveen

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prasheen mothukuri
Re: Tendya and spineless bowling
by prasheen mothukuri on Aug 24, 2011 04:55 AM
Having played 150 test matches, still he cant rectify his technical flaws agaisnt incoming.inswinging deliveries. He looks so insecured against incoming,inswinging balls and also he shuffling around stumps is another weakness. he does not possess solid defence like cook,perterson,dravid,sehwag to score big hundreds consistently

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Chellapan
Re: Re: Tendya and spineless bowling
by Chellapan on Aug 24, 2011 05:12 AM
With all due respect, you are comparing apples to oranges here.

Dravid and Sachin's games are different.

Dravid believes in wearing the bowler down by playing only those deliveries that are close to him.

Sachin believes in dominating the bowlers, so he takes chances outside the offstump.

If Sachin wants he can play only defensively. But then everybody will say that Sachin is struggling and scoring slowly.

Were cook and peterson tested by the swinging ball for you to tell that they have good defensive techiniques?

And how come Sehwag is on the list? He is the No 1 candidate for LBW with his technique.

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Spitting Cobra
Re: Re: Re: Tendya and spineless bowling
by Spitting Cobra on Aug 24, 2011 05:19 AM
I am sorry but youyr thoughts on Sachin makes no sence. We all know Sachin tried to play solid defence and failed miserably. Remember first test? When he went in cell and got out? That has happened to him numerous time in past. How many time have you heard expert commenting that Sachin should play his natural game.. And Sachin trys to play his so called natural game and gets out..

Dravid basically plays defensive but smart game.. period

Basically, he needs to work lot lo harder on his game as he is no longer 27 but over 37 years now..


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Spitting Cobra
Re: Re: Re: Re: Tendya and spineless bowling
by Spitting Cobra on Aug 24, 2011 05:21 AM

Just like what Dravid said after the forth test that he is old and he has to work really hard to justify his selection now.. The same applies to Sachin as well...


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Mature Stud
Captain Cool
by Mature Stud on Aug 24, 2011 04:47 AM


to Captain fool. really, I mean the guy failed unbelievably



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Mature Stud
Captain Cool
by Mature Stud on Aug 24, 2011 04:46 AM


to Captain fool. really, I mean the guy failed unbelievably



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Prasad John
SHOULD BE DONE IMMEDIATELY
by Prasad John on Aug 24, 2011 01:55 AM  | Hide replies

Remove Dhoni from the test captaincy and give it back to Rahul Dravid. Sack all the current paid selectors. Ask Zaheer and Shewag to give an explanation on their fitness. Get an explanation from the NCA

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Sebastian Cherukanam
Not players but climate is the villain
by Sebastian Cherukanam on Aug 24, 2011 01:41 AM  | Hide replies

Indian players played well but their body didn't adjust to the climate conditions in England. And as a result, even when they put extra effort whether it is bowling or batting, their body didn't support them. When they try too hard, not wickets or runs but injuries were the result. Trying too hard when one’s body not warmed up, injury is the obvious result.

As a volley ball player, I know the influence of the climate has on a player’s performance. Even a small breeze can reduce the performance to the lowest level.

One solution is to ask the players to go to England at least a couple of months in advance to get their body acclimatized with the condition over there. This will certainly improve the result but still expecting their body flex the same way England players will be foolish. Again, due to hectic schedules, where is time to send the players early?

On the other hand, when England players come to India, it is a different story. In Indian hot climate condition, they warm up too early and therefore, their initial performance in India will be better but they fail to deliver as the series progresses and nearing to the end. Study the result of matches played in India and aboard to confirm my argument.

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Ram Singh
Re: Not players but climate is the villain
by Ram Singh on Aug 24, 2011 02:20 AM
Sebastian - if you were paid 200 crore to play volleyball, the climate and winds would not affect you !

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Ram Singh
Re: Not players but climate is the villain
by Ram Singh on Aug 24, 2011 02:20 AM
Sebastian - if you were paid 200 crore to play volleyball, the climate and winds would not affect you !

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Mature Stud
Captain Cool
by Mature Stud on Aug 24, 2011 01:37 AM

to Captain fool. really, I mean the guy failed unbelievably


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Sebastian Cherukanam
Not players but climate is the villain
by Sebastian Cherukanam on Aug 24, 2011 01:19 AM

Indian players played well but their body didn't adjust to the climate conditions in England. And as a result, even when they put extra effort whether it is bowling or batting, their body didn't support them. When they try too hard, not the expected result but injury hit them badly.

As a volley ball player, I know the influence of the climate has on a player’s performance. Even a small breeze can reduce the performance to the lowest level.

One solution is to ask the players to go to England at least a couple of months in advance to get their body acclimatized with the condition over there. This will certainly improve the result but still expecting their body flex the same way England players will be foolish. Again, due to hectic schedules, where is time to send the player early?

On the other hand, when they come to India, it is a different story. In Indian hot climate condition, they warm up too early and therefore, their initial performance in India will be better but they fail to deliver as the series processes and nearing to the end. Study the result of matches played in India and aboard to confirm my argument.

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