Shame&anti-national action that we a poor country of 1 billion people are still continuing with playing monotonous& time wasting Tests& 3 day matches,etc, May be Baba Ramdev&Anna Hazare must lauch a national agitation to BAN TEST matches&3 Day and One Day Cricket Matches FOREVER.It is time india and poor countries ban Test Cricket& 3 day macthes forever and Play ONLY T20 matches so that millions of man or woman hours are NOT lost watching monotonous test crciket and 3 day macthes,etc. BCCI& rulers are still behaving as slaves of Westerners, shame they have appointed white skinned westerners as coach, assisistant coach etc paying millions of dollars though we have excellent indian coaches like jimmy amarnath, madan lal and so maany other who can do better jobs than foreigners. BCCI and government must NOT allow more than 2 foreign players in each team&that will gove greater opportunity to indians as well. What a shame that BCCI and rulers are behaving as slaves of westerners even now or are they getting huge kick-backs in the deals involving forein players,etc, Millions of cricket fans must not allow our country to be looted again by foreigners&foreign business houses any more.Hope millions of indians are listening&that they will take necessary action to give justice to indian public& indian players&national honour&pride to
If you scroll up and see the photograph there is hardly any difference in grass color between the ground and the pitch. When is India going to learn to play on picthes like this and the hard and bouncy wickets as was the case in the 4th ODI match agnst W.I. We are No.1 wearing a pink glass.
That garry won us the world cup doesnt mean that every suggestion made by him is ultimate. It was on gary's suggestion that we opted for eric simmons as our bowling coach instead of allan donald who was also in the fray. And till now after 6 months of taking charge, eric has not been able to impact any significant change in our bowling. It was bcoz of our batting might that we won the world cup, not bcoz of our bowlers. Bowling still remain a concern for the newly crowned world champions. On the other hand, Allan donald, within months of taking charge, turned around the england bowling unit, which until then was just a set of average men at the best. He was the bowling coach of england when they retained the ashes in 2005. And their bowling was the major difference in that series. Bowlers like anderson, harmison, hoggard etc were more effective and threatening than the australian foursome pair of mcgrath, gillespie, kasprowicz and lee. Ryan sidebottom also was developing in to a great bowler under donald till an unfortunate injury derailed his career
As in the case of kirsten, bcci should have gone for somebody who has proven himself on the field. Though fletcher had some memorable achievements to his credit with the england team, he has never been able to take england to the next level. I think micheal vaughan is the man who has turned aroung england team and helped them retain ashes in 2005. The england team under fletcher and nasser hussain had lost an ashes series in australia 5-0.
Re: Re: Saurav or Steve waugh would have been ideal
by Rajan S on Apr 29, 2011 12:19 PM
Yes there could be maniacs in every state. What can we do? If u would have listened to saurav's comments during this year's world cup telecast in star cricket this year, you could have found out that he talks a lot of sense. Coaching a cricket team does not only mean teaching a batsman how to play a shot. If not the job of a coach, he could have been posted as indian team manager. He is very good at motivating players and identifying talents. Players like yuvi, zaheer, bhajji, sehwag etc all got groomed and developed under him. Even these players have themselves admitted to it.
Re: young players
by Rajan S on Apr 29, 2011 11:36 AM
Tat is an interesting thought. But unlike pakistanis, killing innocent people is not in our blood nor in our culture
The DD team is one of the most weakest in this year's ipl. they depend heavily one or two players both bowling and batting. Had delhi picked only their local players this time, they would have been strong in this edition. Players lke ishant sharma, gambhir, rajat bhatia, pradeep sangwan along with sehwag and four foreign players would have been a lethal combination
I dont know why people keep saying that coaching the Indian cricket team will be the challenging job for Duncan Fletcher....I yhought with such talented players doing so well it should be the easiest of jobs....Frankly, if one had to coach India or Zimbabwe, anyone will prefer India. So all the coach has to do, is to stay in the background and let the players do their own thing......
Gavaskar had commented that Mohinder Amarnath should have been appointed as the Coach. Maybe yes but why did Gavaskar keep quiet till the coach was appointed. He should have voluntarily recommended Amarnath's name before the apointment and not after. It has become a fashion to criticise the BCCI for everything after the decisions are taken.
As for the Indian coaches who said they are bad as some of the readers seem to think. By the same token it is foolish to claim that they are best. The foreign coaches are perhaps more qualified.
Indian coaches are the best where competence, intelligence, experience and knowledge of the game is concerned. But in the larger interests of the Indian team and India's reputation, a foreign coach will always be suitable. Indians still have a colonial hangover attitude and so one Indian will not like to "obey" or take orders from another Indian but if it's a foreigner boss then an Indian player will bend backwards and do everything to impress him. Secondly Indian coaches are unsuitable because sooner or later they become biased towards players, will play only their favourites and sycophants and also select players based on regions, state-wise, religion and castes and even "who's son he is". These factors can be very detrimental in correct selection of the right players and right combination who can win for India. So a foreign coach will not bother whether a player is a South Indian or North Indian, Maharashtrian or Mallu, Bihari or Bengali but he will only be interested who plays well and who does not play well. So the decision to select a foreign coach for Indians/Indian team is always the right one and the BCCI bosses know this only too well!
Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by Sushil Sharma on Apr 28, 2011 09:23 PM
Cedric, I thought that the selection was done by a selection panel and not the coach, as you say. Also, I do not agree with your comments that “Indian coaches are the best where competence, intelligence, experience and knowledge of the game is concerned.” Bar Robin Singh, and to an extent Prasad, there are none in the entire country who can claim to be good coaches. Over last 30 years, I have seen them (the Indian coaches) in UK, I have seen them in Australia and once in SA, and all the times I found them to be networking with the local Indians, shopping and expecting favours from the local Indians. When it comes to coaching on the field, they still use the methods used in late forties and fifties. In my view Indian coaches believe coaching to be below their dignity – believe me. It is similar to the Indian Umpires, who I find to be absolutely incompetent, proven time and again. Not surprising then that we do not have one in the International Panel. However, that is a different subject to discuss some other time. However, I do agree with you about the nepotism, favouritism and every other “isms” one can think of. But, Cedric, don’t you think that all of this is part of our Indian culture and makes the fabric of the Indian society? It’s evident everywhere in India in every walk of life. As far as subservient mind of Indians towards GORAS is concerned, it would remain with us for
Re: Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by Sushil Sharma on Apr 28, 2011 09:26 PM
the next few generations. You see that is why the GORAS ruled us for 250 years. Until our own mindset changes, and mind you I am not talking about just Cricket here, we would remain enslaved to GOARS. So, in a way, you are right that we still require these GORAS to keep us from destroying ourselves. And “why not?” I say. After all, we are not competent and diligent enough to manage our own affairs. So, good luck to a GORA who would fleece BCCI yet again.
Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by Sushil Sharma on Apr 28, 2011 09:23 PM
Cedric, I thought that the selection was done by a selection panel and not the coach, as you say. Also, I do not agree with your comments that “Indian coaches are the best where competence, intelligence, experience and knowledge of the game is concerned.” Bar Robin Singh, and to an extent Prasad, there are none in the entire country who can claim to be good coaches. Over last 30 years, I have seen them (the Indian coaches) in UK, I have seen them in Australia and once in SA, and all the times I found them to be networking with the local Indians, shopping and expecting favours from the local Indians. When it comes to coaching on the field, they still use the methods used in late forties and fifties. In my view Indian coaches believe coaching to be below their dignity – believe me. It is similar to the Indian Umpires, who I find to be absolutely incompetent, proven time and again. Not surprising then that we do not have one in the International Panel. However, that is a different subject to discuss some other time. However, I do agree with you about the nepotism, favouritism and every other “isms” one can think of. But, Cedric, don’t you think that all of this is part of our Indian culture and makes the fabric of the Indian society? It’s evident everywhere in India in every walk of life. As far as subservient mind of Indians towards GORAS is concerned, it would remain with us for
Re: Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by Sushil Sharma on Apr 28, 2011 09:25 PM
the next few generations. You see that is why the GORAS ruled us for 250 years. Until our own mindset changes, and mind you I am not talking about just Cricket here, we would remain enslaved to GOARS. So, in a way, you are right that we still require these GORAS to keep us from destroying ourselves. And “why not?” I say. After all, we are not competent and diligent enough to manage our own affairs. So, good luck to a GORA who would fleece BCCI yet again.
Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by Sushil Sharma on Apr 28, 2011 09:22 PM
Cedric, I thought that the selection was done by a selection panel and not the coach, as you say. Also, I do not agree with your comments that “Indian coaches are the best where competence, intelligence, experience and knowledge of the game is concerned.” Bar Robin Singh, and to an extent Prasad, there are none in the entire country who can claim to be good coaches. Over last 30 years, I have seen them (the Indian coaches) in UK, I have seen them in Australia and once in SA, and all the times I found them to be networking with the local Indians, shopping and expecting favours from the local Indians. When it comes to coaching on the field, they still use the methods used in late forties and fifties. In my view Indian coaches believe coaching to be below their dignity – believe me. It is similar to the Indian Umpires, who I find to be absolutely incompetent, proven time and again. Not surprising then that we do not have one in the International Panel. However, that is a different subject to discuss some other time. However, I do agree with you about the nepotism, favouritism and every other “isms” one can think of. But, Cedric, don’t you think that all of this is part of our Indian culture and makes the fabric of the Indian society? It’s evident everywhere in India in every walk of life. As far as subservient mind of Indians towards GORAS is concerned, it would remain with us for
Re: Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by Sushil Sharma on Apr 28, 2011 09:25 PM
the next few generations. You see that is why the GORAS ruled us for 250 years. Until our own mindset changes, and mind you I am not talking about just Cricket here, we would remain enslaved to GOARS. So, in a way, you are right that we still require these GORAS to keep us from destroying ourselves. And “why not?” I say. After all, we are not competent and diligent enough to manage our own affairs. So, good luck to a GORA who would fleece BCCI yet again.
Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by riyaz on Apr 28, 2011 07:37 PM
PERFECT....WELL SAID MATE...U R PERFECTLY CORRECT...INDIAN MENTALITY IS SAME EVERYWHERE.
