Indian coaches are the best where competence, intelligence, experience and knowledge of the game is concerned. But in the larger interests of the Indian team and India's reputation, a foreign coach will always be suitable. Indians still have a colonial hangover attitude and so one Indian will not like to "obey" or take orders from another Indian but if it's a foreigner boss then an Indian player will bend backwards and do everything to impress him. Secondly Indian coaches are unsuitable because sooner or later they become biased towards players, will play only their favourites and sycophants and also select players based on regions, state-wise, religion and castes and even "who's son he is". These factors can be very detrimental in correct selection of the right players and right combination who can win for India. So a foreign coach will not bother whether a player is a South Indian or North Indian, Maharashtrian or Mallu, Bihari or Bengali but he will only be interested who plays well and who does not play well. So the decision to select a foreign coach for Indians/Indian team is always the right one and the BCCI bosses know this only too well!
Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by Sushil Sharma on Apr 28, 2011 09:23 PM
Cedric, I thought that the selection was done by a selection panel and not the coach, as you say. Also, I do not agree with your comments that “Indian coaches are the best where competence, intelligence, experience and knowledge of the game is concerned.” Bar Robin Singh, and to an extent Prasad, there are none in the entire country who can claim to be good coaches. Over last 30 years, I have seen them (the Indian coaches) in UK, I have seen them in Australia and once in SA, and all the times I found them to be networking with the local Indians, shopping and expecting favours from the local Indians. When it comes to coaching on the field, they still use the methods used in late forties and fifties. In my view Indian coaches believe coaching to be below their dignity – believe me. It is similar to the Indian Umpires, who I find to be absolutely incompetent, proven time and again. Not surprising then that we do not have one in the International Panel. However, that is a different subject to discuss some other time. However, I do agree with you about the nepotism, favouritism and every other “isms” one can think of. But, Cedric, don’t you think that all of this is part of our Indian culture and makes the fabric of the Indian society? It’s evident everywhere in India in every walk of life. As far as subservient mind of Indians towards GORAS is concerned, it would remain with us for
Re: Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by Sushil Sharma on Apr 28, 2011 09:26 PM
the next few generations. You see that is why the GORAS ruled us for 250 years. Until our own mindset changes, and mind you I am not talking about just Cricket here, we would remain enslaved to GOARS. So, in a way, you are right that we still require these GORAS to keep us from destroying ourselves. And “why not?” I say. After all, we are not competent and diligent enough to manage our own affairs. So, good luck to a GORA who would fleece BCCI yet again.
Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by Sushil Sharma on Apr 28, 2011 09:23 PM
Cedric, I thought that the selection was done by a selection panel and not the coach, as you say. Also, I do not agree with your comments that “Indian coaches are the best where competence, intelligence, experience and knowledge of the game is concerned.” Bar Robin Singh, and to an extent Prasad, there are none in the entire country who can claim to be good coaches. Over last 30 years, I have seen them (the Indian coaches) in UK, I have seen them in Australia and once in SA, and all the times I found them to be networking with the local Indians, shopping and expecting favours from the local Indians. When it comes to coaching on the field, they still use the methods used in late forties and fifties. In my view Indian coaches believe coaching to be below their dignity – believe me. It is similar to the Indian Umpires, who I find to be absolutely incompetent, proven time and again. Not surprising then that we do not have one in the International Panel. However, that is a different subject to discuss some other time. However, I do agree with you about the nepotism, favouritism and every other “isms” one can think of. But, Cedric, don’t you think that all of this is part of our Indian culture and makes the fabric of the Indian society? It’s evident everywhere in India in every walk of life. As far as subservient mind of Indians towards GORAS is concerned, it would remain with us for
Re: Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by Sushil Sharma on Apr 28, 2011 09:25 PM
the next few generations. You see that is why the GORAS ruled us for 250 years. Until our own mindset changes, and mind you I am not talking about just Cricket here, we would remain enslaved to GOARS. So, in a way, you are right that we still require these GORAS to keep us from destroying ourselves. And “why not?” I say. After all, we are not competent and diligent enough to manage our own affairs. So, good luck to a GORA who would fleece BCCI yet again.
Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by Sushil Sharma on Apr 28, 2011 09:22 PM
Cedric, I thought that the selection was done by a selection panel and not the coach, as you say. Also, I do not agree with your comments that “Indian coaches are the best where competence, intelligence, experience and knowledge of the game is concerned.” Bar Robin Singh, and to an extent Prasad, there are none in the entire country who can claim to be good coaches. Over last 30 years, I have seen them (the Indian coaches) in UK, I have seen them in Australia and once in SA, and all the times I found them to be networking with the local Indians, shopping and expecting favours from the local Indians. When it comes to coaching on the field, they still use the methods used in late forties and fifties. In my view Indian coaches believe coaching to be below their dignity – believe me. It is similar to the Indian Umpires, who I find to be absolutely incompetent, proven time and again. Not surprising then that we do not have one in the International Panel. However, that is a different subject to discuss some other time. However, I do agree with you about the nepotism, favouritism and every other “isms” one can think of. But, Cedric, don’t you think that all of this is part of our Indian culture and makes the fabric of the Indian society? It’s evident everywhere in India in every walk of life. As far as subservient mind of Indians towards GORAS is concerned, it would remain with us for
Re: Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by Sushil Sharma on Apr 28, 2011 09:25 PM
the next few generations. You see that is why the GORAS ruled us for 250 years. Until our own mindset changes, and mind you I am not talking about just Cricket here, we would remain enslaved to GOARS. So, in a way, you are right that we still require these GORAS to keep us from destroying ourselves. And “why not?” I say. After all, we are not competent and diligent enough to manage our own affairs. So, good luck to a GORA who would fleece BCCI yet again.
Re: Foreign coach v/s Indian coach
by riyaz on Apr 28, 2011 07:37 PM
PERFECT....WELL SAID MATE...U R PERFECTLY CORRECT...INDIAN MENTALITY IS SAME EVERYWHERE.
Re: Best wishes for new coach
by Kannan Kameswaran on Apr 28, 2011 06:57 PM
U R right A man of his calibre, who has made the Ashes win possible for Eng,a against Aussies, shud definitely be the right man for the job
Re: Re: Re: Best wishes for new coach
by Nostradamus Great on Apr 28, 2011 08:48 PM
As long as your RunD a.m.m.i is alive, she wont let anyone else do that!
Re: Re: Re: Best wishes for new coach
by Nostradamus Great on Apr 28, 2011 08:50 PM
how abt asking your RunD a.m.m.i to take my 'Bholu' in her b.h.o.s.d.a?
Right Decision. Now we need this type of coach only. He is not play more icc games. But he have good coach track record. Right choice. All the best DUNCAN FLETCHER.
saina's defeat in the 1st round of the indian open yesterday,was the biggest shocking sports news for most indian sports fan, and rediff.com decided to blank it.i find it ridiculous,saina is the sachin of indian badminton, any news of her whether on her victory or defeat cannot be sidelined. it is true that saina has been having indifferent form for the last 1 year. but even in this period she won the commonwealth games gold,swiss open etc. pointing to her injury for her defeats @ korea open, all england,world championship,& india open is not correct.saina & her coach should seriously discuss & rectify her weak points as the girl has immense talents.moreover her father should restrict her from active indulging in sponsoring activities,ramp shows, being brand ambassadors of products,which diverts her from her game.
We may be divided on this aspect..I personally feel a foreign coach would be better..not because our Indian coaches are less talented or technically inferior but due to the fact that THE FAVOURITISM with respect to region, language etc definitely comes to play. we cant ignore this fact that any Indian coach will be biased towards the players of his region or would treat seniors and juniors differently.
Kapil Dev is more preferable than him.I think BCCI should know that.He(Fletcher)only can do to take the team into the 'Hole'(Gadda) from where the Gary Kirsten started to pull out.Big Jokeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Re: By Biswajit
by Charles Srinarayan on Apr 28, 2011 11:53 AM
Kapil Dev does not have a good rapport with the BCCI. Remember that the BCCI with their IPL killed the ICL where Kapil Dev was the CEO like what Modi was to IPL.
Re: Re: By Biswajit
by William Shakespeare on Apr 28, 2011 11:30 AM
Corrections needed:
I (am is not needed) also agree THAT (and not on) Kapil Dev ("and he" is not needed) is the best person if they like AN Indian TO BE THE coach (c should be in LOWER CASE). (and not ...)
Re: Re: Re: Re: By Biswajit
by William Shakespeare on Apr 28, 2011 11:44 AM
Those words were written in UPPER CASE (that obviously need to be in lower case) so as to point out the additional words that need to be in place for making a perfect Shakespearean English sentence.
