Re: Re: God of Cricket.. best of Luck
by abhishek kulkarni on Nov 13, 2010 08:50 PM
Conditions, to some extent are applicable to everyone in order to score. Nothing specific about Sachin. At the same time, just generalising saying that because Sehwag has score, Sachin will too will be a overstatement. Each player is good in their own right.
At the same time there is no reason why a player of Sachin's calibre should not score on this good wicket unless he really messes it up. With Dravid on the other end to give him good support, I think we should be poised for a good lead. We need to bat till tea tomorrow.
Re: Re: Re: God of Cricket.. best of Luck
by abhishek kulkarni on Nov 13, 2010 08:53 PM
I wish Sachin all the best for his much awaited 50th Test hundred.
Have said that I feel very very sorry for Sehwag having missed out on his. What class, what fluency, what aura! Reminds me of Sachin in his olden days. Awesome batting Viru. Congratulations to Gauti for a fantastic comeback.
Re: Re: God of Cricket.. best of Luck
by Senthil on Nov 13, 2010 07:53 PM
The conditions are tough and we have seen it and if he score a century, will u suicide? oh that's for the people have any shame not you, Shameless creature, get a life
Re: Re: Re: God of Cricket.. best of Luck
by Sunil Vaidya on Nov 14, 2010 02:56 AM
so you agree conditions are tough and you saw how sehwag has scored in these conditions havent you? hope you will stop calling him FTB. also if sachin does not score a century will u suicide? sorry, i forgot shameless creatures like you never do that, sorry cant say get a life to you because you are incapable of that.
India's cricket team is a well balanced team but our bowlers are performing much below par.
India's weak point has always been its bowling as a result a team like New Zealand which ranks very low in the World Cricket Team ratings is making it hard for our present Indian Team to even save matches.
Serious thought should be given to select good fast bowlers in order to continue maintain our World No. 1 Test paying country
Re: India off to a flying start
by Sunil Vaidya on Nov 13, 2010 07:44 PM
ajit rao, it was not bowlers but batsmen who made it difficult to save last match against NZ. 15 for 5 is the score while batting not bowling.
because of our deadly and strong bowling attack which is the best bowling attack in the world dhoni able to win 12 tests in the last 2 years.
Re: Re: India off to a flying start
by Senthil on Nov 13, 2010 07:54 PM
It's Indian Team won it not Dhoni, Wat's Dhoni's contribution in that? Batsman Setting up the Game for Bowlers, learn Cricket first leave alone Test Cricket
Re: Re: Re: India off to a flying start
by Sunil Vaidya on Nov 13, 2010 08:00 PM
idiot senthil, batsmen did not set up the game for bowlers. bowlers set up the game for batsmen. please try and take cricket lessons from some knowledgeable person before you post here. otherwise speak only in your gully.
yes senthil, indian team won but under whom? why sachin, ganguly, dravid or kumble not able to win 12 matches out of 18? why only dhoni could do that? there's something special about him because of which we are winning continuously since he took charge of indian team.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: India off to a flying start
by Sunil Vaidya on Nov 14, 2010 03:48 AM
idiot senthil, please dont give the nonsense and useless stuff about how many combined runs we have made or we are going to make.
instead, tell me how many wkts. combined our bowlers have taken.
i tell you again that it is bowlers who win test matches though i understand that with you non existent brain you will find that very difficult to grasp.
you moron baby, even if all our batsmen combined make 1 billion runs by playing 500 tests each we are still going to lose or at the best draw if our bowlers dont take 20 opposition wickets.
as for our openers s ramesh and ss das they were not all that bad though when compared with sehwag and gambhir they will not look enough. BTW i would like to mention that though you are saying nice things about sehwag and gambhir now you will lose no chance to abuse them both in your next post. yes, our openers sehwag, and gambhir and also reserve opener murali vijay are all class players but you will see their quality and class as batsmen only when trying to pull down dhoni. when you discuss sachin and say that he is the greatest and rest are all useless and sachin wins matches single handedly for india with no contribution from other 10 players you are going to include sehwag, gambhir and murali vijay also in that worthless 10 players.
and senthil FYI out of 23 tests that s s das played we won 10 tests and out of 19 tests that s ramesh played we won 8 which is still a very good percentage.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: India off to a flying start
by Sunil Vaidya on Nov 14, 2010 03:13 AM
senthil, it is useless arguing with you. your brain being non existent you cannot understand that batsmen dont win test matches. bowlers win test matches by taking twenty wickets. and dhoni as a captain has managed to get those 20 wkts from his bowlers 12 times out of 18.
and the bowlers for your information are not kumble or srinath (both of whom you have praised constantly) neither of them every played under dhoni in tests.
the bowlers he had were zaheer, ishant, sreesanth, harbhajan, ozha and mishra all of whom you have abused continuoulsy and called them worthless. in a post some days ago i had given the no. of wkts. taken by all these bowlers under dhoni and in the test matches won by india. i suggest that you read that post again if you have not done so far.
FYI zaheer and harbhajan are two of india's best ever bowlers and have been consistently taking 4 or more wkts. per test for the pasy many years. even ishnat and sreesanth have taken more than 3 and half or 4 wkts. per test that india has won and they have played in.
even ozha and mishra FYI have played in 6 tests which india has won in their short career so far and you will be surprised to know that ozha has taken 29 wkts. in 6 tests that he has played and india won while mishra has taken 31 wkts. in 6 tests that he has played and india has won.
Re: Re: Re: Re: India off to a flying start
by abhishek kulkarni on Nov 13, 2010 09:03 PM
Senthil and Sunil, There is a very modest saying in english 'a captain is only as good as his team'. However, the truth is captaincy definitely matters. No matter how good the ship is, it needs a leader who can show it the way and Dhoni and Ganguly have revolutionised Indian cricket's turnaround in cricketing history with all round performances all over the world (except SA). Even Sachin had a good team in 1999-2000. He wasn't that successful which shows everyone can't become a good leader. Dhoni has enormous talent, not only as a wicketkeeper and batsman, but also being one of the greatest captains of all time. Look at great captains like Steve Waugh, Marc Taylor, Saurav Ganguly, Imran Khan. They made the teams they turned out to be. Not everyone can be a world class captain.
Having said that I would still say Dhoni is a very dependable batsman and has played many great innings of class at number 6-7 for India. This is infact the time to support him, just like we supported Gauti. And I am sure, sunny days are here to come again. CAPTAINCY MATTERS!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: India off to a flying start
by Sunil Vaidya on Nov 14, 2010 04:25 AM
abhishek, as regards to our new spinners mishra has helped india to win 6 tests in his short career so far. in the 6 winnings causes he has taken 31 wkts. which i think i dont need to point out to you is extraordinary strike rate (of wkts. taken in tests won). also ojha whom your regard as rank amateur and yet to establish himself, has also helped india in winning 6 tests in which he has taken 29 wkts. again i think i need not tell you is an extraordinary strike rate (of wkts. per test won)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: India off to a flying start
by abhishek kulkarni on Nov 13, 2010 09:15 PM
Sunil, I would like to tell you about what Ian Chapell rightly said about a team which intends to REMAIN as numero uno for a long long time. He says such a team should be good in all 3 departments of the game - batting, bowling and fielding (I hope you agree with me).
However, let us accept the fact that we have become no.1 majorly on the basis of extrordinary batting performances. So one bad batting performance cannot take anything away from its class and we know that it was the batting indeed which saved us the match!
Having said that we really need to improve in our bowling department woefully. Except for ZK and HS our bowling attack is amateurish to say the least. PO is a rank amateur and yet to establish himself. Personally speaking I think Amit Mishra can genuinely turn the ball better than PO. PK, AN and RP are all good bowlers but have been in and out of the team consistently. These are not signs of a world beating team. We need to improve. DRASTICALLY.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: India off to a flying start
by Sunil Vaidya on Nov 14, 2010 04:20 AM
abhishek i agree that a team should be good in all departments of the game batting bowling and fielding.
however, i disagree that we have become no. 1 majorly on the basis of extraordinary batting performance. the truth is quite the opposite. in fact, we have become no. 1 majorly on the basis of extraordinary bowling performance.
yes we saved last match against NZ because of batting. but only that is possible by extraordinary batting. we will lose or draw at the most.
i find it surprising that our bowling department seems woefully inadequate to you that you think it needs drastic improvement.
looks like you also need to read the post that i suggested senthil to read. in response to a suggestion that nehra be included in test team when nehra said that he would like to be back in test team i had argued why nehra had no place in current test squad. please read the post in case you have missed it.
it is no surprise that zaheer and harbhajan have contributed majorly to all indian wins since the last 10 years, first under ganguly, then under dravid and kumble and now under dhoni.
as i had written above in answer to senthil harbhajan and zaheer have been taking wkts. at the rate of 4 or more wkts. per test for the last so many years. these are our senior bowlers. but even our youngsters like ishant, sreesanth, ojha and mishra have done extraordinarily well. ishant and sreesanth also have 3 and a half or 4 wkts. in winning causes in tests.
