come on friends, we still have a match in hand, if we manage another 100 runs, in first session tomorrow, 200 runs in 2 sessions will be a tough challenge on this pitch for the kiwis, and they wil be under pressure. India can press for another exciting victory, come on people, lets be positive, remember on this pitch, srinath took 6 wickets on last day to win a test for India, Zaheer and Sree can do the same, cheers India
Re: still in match
by phaneeswar on Nov 07, 2010 08:03 PM
I too agree because Ojha made a statement that chasing 170 is quite a difficult task and the only thing which India need to do is just add another minimum 80-90 runs so that competition will be tough.
Re: still in match
by krishna v on Nov 07, 2010 08:15 PM
sree yeah..but zaheer..i guess you missed the first innings buddy..zaheer just didnt have clue of where to bowl.so did harbhajan.these are the most experienced players.and people like ashwin, ishant sharma are kept out to adjust them in team.
Re: Re: still in match
by sreedhar reddy on Nov 07, 2010 08:37 PM
no Krishna, Zaheer may have failed in the first innings, but he has been the most consistent bowler for India in last 2 years. I agree with you regarding bhajji, he has been very inconsistent. Srresanth is a mercurial bowler, on his day he can win a match for India, but can be very frustrating sometimes. Ishaant has been very much out of form in recent times, he needs to get back his form
There is no one there in the Indian team to come in the place of Dravid. If he makes century for India no one is praising him. When he gone out for 1 or 2 runs all are throwing stones to him. This is not a good practice
Re: Dravid
by Nayak Nayak on Nov 07, 2010 08:02 PM
It is a strange argument that because he scored a century Dravid should be spared. Mind you he is playing for the nation and has vast experience in the game of cricket. Lately he has proved that he is a liability for the team with poor batting and worse fielding. His first inning display was a pathetic one even if he scored a ton. A player of his caliber taking 100 balls to score 17 runs is a disgrace to him. His spiritless face tells all. Let us not follow idol worship We have good middle order batsmen on bench such as Virat Kohli on the bench. Let selectors show guts to drop Gambhir and Dravid and bring in Vijay & Kohli for next test,
Re: Re: Dravid
by El Nino on Nov 07, 2010 10:14 PM
Dravid was struggling for runs, and it is understandable that he took his time to settle down. There was no need for Dravid to be flamboyant at that particular stage.
In fact, if anything the time that he spent at the crease is the reason why we have been able to drag this game to Day 5! Stop being critical of every inning. Sure, as an experienced batsman he should have done better, but things aren't going his way, and we should allow him space to get back to his form! Haste isn't a good virtue, and I'm grateful to the selection committee for sticking with Dravid.
Re: Re: Re: Dravid
by rajib sen on Nov 08, 2010 01:28 AM
HOW LONG HE WILL CONTINUE WITH HIS POOR FORM...AT THE AGE OF 38YRS ITS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET BACK FORM...PLAYING ENOUGH FOR TEAM INDIA ...PLEASE RETIRE NOW AND GIVE CHANCES TO YOUNGSTARS...
Re: Re: Dravid
by Joydeep Bhattacharjee on Nov 07, 2010 08:36 PM
a strong message for India team.Gambhir,Raina,Dravid & Dhoni should not be make realised their place is granted in test team. Poor batting by all of them since Australia series. But how long they will continue like this?? Murali Vijay, Pujara & Rohit sharma be called in team immediately. Sreesanth & Bhajji also needs a break.....
Re: Re: Dravid
by aravind gopalakrishnan on Nov 07, 2010 08:30 PM
Absolutely right.It is high time Dravid calls it a day.The catch that he dropped (so called 14 years of experience) was not at all tough and that cost us the partnership of around 200 runs. Also, in the last few tours,he has not even managed to score a 50. Also with him,not sure why Gambir and Raina are being given chances again and again.One or 2 innings of quick fire 50 will not serve the purpose.It is hight time the board considers giving chance to Kohli and Vijay as you mentioned. Kohli or Vijay have proved well in the chances that have been given so far. No point speaking about past records and stories.
Re: Re: Re: Dravid
by Joydeep Bhattacharjee on Nov 07, 2010 08:39 PM
it has become practice now if sehwag,sachin & Laxmamn play India will be in match. But why others are there in team??? just to earn money....What Dhoni is doing with his batting??? poor & horrible show...again & again from indian captain......Bowlers too pathetic....
Re: Dravid
by phaneeswar on Nov 07, 2010 08:09 PM
@Nayak This is test match and you expect that only and you can't expect every one to be like Viru in that format. Dravid is the one of the asset to Indian cricket and we fans should give him moral support instead of degrading him.
Re: Re: Dravid
by Nayak Nayak on Nov 07, 2010 08:12 PM
Kohli test match temperament even though he was more successful in 20-20. Without giving opportunity you can not comment on his batting. Even Pujara against Aussies came as No.3 in crucial time and showed positive display If Virat is not for the replacement why not Pujara?
Re: Re: Re: Dravid
by Jay on Nov 07, 2010 09:34 PM
The only change in batting lineup required is Pujara in place of Raina in the eleven. Rest can wait.
Re: Re: Re: Dravid
by Joydeep Bhattacharjee on Nov 07, 2010 08:43 PM
making 1-2 runs in test match can be made by even bowlers also... why big guns are there??? why Irfan pathan not called for all formats of game. he can be better than Raina,Dravid & gambhir.....why R Ashwin not called in test team?? he cam also easily score few runs & bowl too.....
I am not blaming anyone but consistently lower half has been failing leaving Bhajji's 69. Dhoni cannot be kept just for captaining. Bring Parhiv Patel. What Dhoni did 5 year ago should not be the case how he is batting for the last year should be the criteria.
Re: Re: Dhoni is useless as a batsman . Bring Parthiv
by rajib sen on Nov 08, 2010 01:35 AM
Varun i guess u frgt last series against Australia...He was the MOM & MOS...so plz dont compare Dhoni's poor form with Sachin gr8 form...allready he was the highest run scorer and his avg is almost 97 this yr..not like medicore Dhoni...
whenever sachin scores a fifty..media treats it as a hundred. if he scores a hundred media hypes it like a triple hundred.india are in such a position after a great day 1 only because of sachin who triggered a collapse in first innings due to some inexplicable insipid and defensive batting.but media is not highlighting that. agred, people like dhoni and gambhir have been woefully out of touch. but sachin has been in top form.no one knows why he batted so defensively when india were already on top.
Re: media must highlight sachin's failures too
by phaneeswar on Nov 07, 2010 08:11 PM
because at that time India bats aggresively then you can see loss of wickets and again presure will be on tail enders. Just stop watching too many T20 where you will be seeing less dots and in tests you have to expect a calm and composed batting.
Re: media must highlight sachin's failures too
by Nayak Nayak on Nov 07, 2010 08:07 PM
Media is scared of commenting on Sachin. Even though I am his fan I totally diagree with his batting in the first inning. It was very clear that he was playing for himself to score his 50th ton instead for his team which needed exhilaration of scoring. His partnership with Laxman was laborious putting pressure on lower order. But for Harbhajan's batting sorry to say that India would have lost this match on the fourth day. itself!
Re: Re: media must highlight sachin's failures too
by phaneeswar on Nov 07, 2010 08:14 PM
@Nayak that is because of the nature of the pitch and if you look at the statement which Ojha made, scoring 170 on 5th day is very tough task as the wicket supports a lot for bowlers and India is still in the match if Laxman and Bhajji play a crucial knowck tomorrow.
Re: media must highlight sachin's failures too
by Guest on Nov 07, 2010 10:36 PM
I completely agree, my friend though I am Sachin fan too, Sachin's dismissal to Jeetan Patel brought me joy than sadness.
DHONI IS USELESS. SACHIN IS NOT A MACHINE WHO WILL MAKE 100 IN EVERY MATCH. DHONI AND RAINA ARE NOT MATURE FOR TEST CRICKET. THEY BETTER PLAY ONLY FOR CHENNAI SUPER KINGS....NOT FOR INDIA........I AM SORRY MR. DHONI THATS NOT LEADERSHIP OF A PERSON REPRESENTING HIS NATION.
Re: SHAMELESS DHONI
by phaneeswar on Nov 07, 2010 06:58 PM
See I accept that he is not at the top of form in terms of his batting but he is at the top with his captaincy, moreover he too build a crucial partnership with Laxman. This is the time where we must support the team morally instead of pointing weakness of the players at this moment.
Re: Re: SHAMELESS DHONI
by Joydeep Bhattacharjee on Nov 07, 2010 08:49 PM
Dhonis batting performance has to be judged since autralia series. Not even a single 50 in last 6 inninings.He is in same line with Ricky ponting....
Kudos to NZ for out classing India in such a way. That is the real cricket of the game where you don't expect just to turn the game in a matter of 40 overs. Congrats to NZ for a faboulous fight back despite having a limited bowling options. I agree with one and all that Dravid should have sacrificed his wicket for Viru because he(Viru) is such a sort of batsman where he don't allow the opposition bowling to settle down and other batsman can bat in a relaxed manner.
Re: Re: That's The Game
by phaneeswar on Nov 07, 2010 07:02 PM
Yes time has come to retire for Dravid. He deserved to end his carrier on a good note and if he end in bad note then all his efforts, records and acheivements will be wasted. But we have important tours ahead and let him retire from all forms of cricket after next year England tour.
Cricket is a game of chance.For me it is not above cards.Why we clamour when there is nothing certain.Sehwag ' run out is an example how this is a matter of chance.