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Jayadevan''s rain formula better than D/L


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Senthil
This VJD Method is Used in ICL
by Senthil on May 05, 2010 05:05 PM

But not a great Success. I think After that He revised it now. I didn't seen a Practical result of this then only I can decide.

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Picasso
see if this makes variation makes any sense ...
by Picasso on May 05, 2010 04:27 PM  | Hide replies

The DL method could be applied in cases where there >= 9 overs remaining...

When there are less than 9 overs remaining...we could do the following (combination of MPO and innings run rate method):

divide the number of remaining overs (say 8, by 2)...

Now take the four most productive overs from the first innings and also take remaining four overs at the first innings overall run rate...

For example, Let's assume a first innings score of 190 in 20 overs...

8 overs left in second innings after rain shortens play...

4 most productive overs in the first innings...23, 19, 15, 13(say)...sum of which equals 70

Innings Run Rate: 9.5

SO balance 4 overs @ 9.5*4 = 38

Total Target in Eight overs = 70 38 = 108





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Picasso
Re: see if this makes variation makes any sense ...
by Picasso on May 05, 2010 04:31 PM
i mean 70 38 = 108

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Picasso
Re: Re: see if this makes variation makes any sense ...
by Picasso on May 05, 2010 04:32 PM
70 plus 38 = 108 (rediff hates the plus sign, huh ;) lol )

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Picasso
Re: Re: Re: see if this makes variation makes any sense ...
by Picasso on May 05, 2010 04:36 PM
and the subject was intended to be "see if this variation makes any sense "...hope this is the last time i reply to my own post...lol

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Srinivas Bhogle
Re: see if this makes variation makes any sense ...
by Srinivas Bhogle on May 05, 2010 11:01 PM
Picasso: When you jump from one method to the other there may be a discontinuity!

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raghu raghu
wrong
by raghu raghu on May 05, 2010 04:27 PM

Duck worth= dick worth

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RCB
Min. Overs 10 for each team
by RCB on May 05, 2010 04:20 PM  | Hide replies

If you want to consider a match Minimum of 10 overs should be played by each team. Less than that.. any formula will not work. one day it might work other day it craps.. If you really want to get a result of a rain hit match.. then Super Over is the only better and evenly placed option for both teams. 5 overs 6 overs is looks like playing a gully cricket i think.

Guys give ur comments on this...

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Crickbufff
Re: Min. Overs 10 for each team
by Crickbufff on May 05, 2010 04:26 PM
even the present super over option sucks!
Ideally I would like to see a foot ball like situation - wherein
6 ball are delivered by six different bowlers to 6 difft batsmen!
And the team that score highest vis-a-vis wickets wins!!

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Crickbufff
Re: Re: Min. Overs 10 for each team
by Crickbufff on May 05, 2010 04:30 PM
ideally the teams would have to exchange the bowling order sheet and the batsmen taking strike before the commencement of a super over!

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raman govindan
T20 formatt
by raman govindan on May 05, 2010 04:17 PM

T20 format to be changed to permit any batsman to play only 24 balls and he retires when he is out or at the end of 24 balls. that should speed up the game!

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Crickbufff
Duckworth is an Englishman!!
by Crickbufff on May 05, 2010 04:02 PM  | Hide replies


but he ai'nt smart enough when u compare to Jayadevan!
Unfortunately JAYADEVAN comes from a "third world uncultured country" to which I belong too!!
So the ICC and the goras would not care!!
Sunny Gavaskar was the lone voice to lend his support to Jayadevan!! Rest of the ICC favored the D/L rule which is ridiculous even in rain affected 50/50 games!! Remember SA having to score 21 runs off the last ball!!

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Crickbufff
Re: Duckworth is an Englishman!!
by Crickbufff on May 05, 2010 04:05 PM
when the MCC can make new rules on catches etc!
Why cant they atleast learn to review this D/L rule and compare it with VJD's formula - unless its racism to the front! Totally unscientific approach!

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Srinivas Bhogle
Re: Duckworth is an Englishman!!
by Srinivas Bhogle on May 05, 2010 04:06 PM
Crickbufff: 21 runs in last ball was using the MPO rule; not D/L

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Crickbufff
Re: Re: Duckworth is an Englishman!!
by Crickbufff on May 05, 2010 04:12 PM
ooops, u r right!
It used to be 22 of 13 and then 21 of one ball before D/L system came into place!!
But now I think, like Collingwood said, D/L needs to be reviewed in favor of something more scientific and more broad based and more realistic for a person watching the game!
Ideally, I would like to see the intervention of a new rule like chucking out wickets as they chuck out overs (especially key powerplay overs are lost for a side batting second!!)! If a side batting second loses 5 power play overs, they also need to be chucked out of atleast 2 wickets!!

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Crickbufff
Re: Re: Duckworth is an Englishman!!
by Crickbufff on May 05, 2010 04:19 PM
I am sorry, oops u r right!

It was 22 out of 13 and then 21 off one ball for SA to win!!
That's how they devised the D/L system after that incident!
But I guess, D/L needs a overhaul and proper review too!
Ideally, in T20 when a side is batting second, and rain intervenes, the Powerplay overs are cut down and I was'nt happy in some cases and felt it was unfair!! especially for teams like Zimbabwe, Ireland, Bangladesh who rely on power play overs with no real batting depth after No.5!! For India u can imagine even Bhajji and Zaheer to slog! So inexperienced teams stand to benefit by having few more power play overs in the beginning of the game! Could you arrive at some mutually agreeable offer on the power play situation too??

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nice guy
D/L tamasha
by nice guy on May 05, 2010 03:44 PM

Venue-dont remember
Match-Ind vs Eng
Ind- 270- revised taget 167
Eng- 169
Result: Ind won by 14 runs
courtesy: D/L

now u decide whether to continue it or not?

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