Re: A question mark on Sachin's career
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:39 PM
"Doping helps you stay longer in the game-score more and create more records"- Sachinanada
Re: Re: A question mark on Sachin's career
by Junior Don on Mar 30, 2010 04:41 PM
Doping never helps, in longer term. Even in shortterm it is of no use. Look at Maradona.
Re: Re: Re: A question mark on Sachin's career
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:43 PM
soccer is a skillful game and cocaine doesnt produce skills-sports lovers understand this and maradona is still likes by millions .But as per saint sachinnanda, doping helps you to score more records.
Re: A question mark on Sachin's career
by Junior Don on Mar 30, 2010 04:43 PM
They have declined WADA because it wanted to encroach upon cricketer's privacy. Rightly so. Look there are a lot of militant threats nowadays and naturally players will not like to reveal their travel plans in advance.
Re: Re: A question mark on Sachin's career
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:47 PM
this is political reasoning-it is always politically incorrect to say directly that "I dont want to get checked for dope"-better say I dont want to let you know my schedule for my security.Try to think beyond the box-and not like nityas followers
Re: Re: A question mark on Sachin's career
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:49 PM
you mean tennis players, soccer players and athletes around the globe are not targets to criminals?or do you believe Sachin is more fearful?
I see lot of controversies & personal attack on calling Fake Debu “The great”. Instead of doing that, why don't you look at the issue with an open eye ? Fake Debu is undoubtedly the best now. I don't know who can be called a Master. If it is somebody who can do magic, I am sorry, Fake Debu is not so. He is best in the present era. That' all & it's always foolish to compare somebody with others, whether from same game or other. But he has given a lot to Indian cricket & won many matches single handedly, may not be in WC semi or final, but in other matches or tournamnets. We should salute him. Parellely it's also true, he was vulnerable against many top class bowlers, I remember very well how McGrath used to bowl him & enjoy beating one after another delivery. It is fact that fake Debu's defence was not that solid, as his natural style was aggressive batting. He got the extra strength from his heavy bat. He would never be able to cross Lara's achievements of tons in single innings. But again, there is gems & pitfalls in everybody. Be it Gavaskar, Lara or Richards.. Fake Debu is not exception too. Greatest ever batsman for India.
Re: Is Fake Debu the master blaster???
by KING VIV on Mar 30, 2010 08:26 PM
But for me Sir Vivian Richards will always be the greatest. King Viv was the greatest of them all, destroyer of fast bowlers and a audacious batter who clobbered bowlers all over the park. All the present day cricketers from Sachin to Warne, Viru, Lara, Ponting, Gilly, Haydos, Murali, Jayasuriya, Sanga, Pieterson, and so on rate Sir Viv as their HERO and IDOL. HE was the ultimate entertainer, no helmet and not much of protective gear and yet he was the King out there on the field with the bat. See his videos on YOU TUBE.
I see lot of controversies & personal attack on calling Sachin “The great”. Instead of doing that, why don't you look at the issue with an open eye ? Sachn is undoubtedly the best now. I don't know who can be called a Master. If it is somebody who can do magic, I am sorry, Sachin is not so. He is best in the present era. That' all & it's always foolish to compare somebody with others, whether from same game or other. But he has given a lot to Indian cricket & won many matches single handedly, may not be in WC semi or final, but in other matches or tournamnets. We should salute him. Parellely it's also true, he was vulnerable against many top class bowlers, I remember very well how McGrath used to bowl him & enjoy beating one after another delivery. It is fact that Sachin's defence was not that solid, as his natural style was aggressive batting. He got the extra strength from his heavy bat. He would never be able to cross Lara's achievements of tons in single innings. But again, there is gems & pitfalls in everybody. Be it Gavaskar, Lara or Richards.. Sachin is not exception too. Greatest ever batsman for India.
Re: Is Sachin the "Master" ?
by KING VIV on Mar 30, 2010 08:26 PM
But for me Sir Vivian Richards will always be the greatest. King Viv was the greatest of them all, destroyer of fast bowlers and a audacious batter who clobbered bowlers all over the park. All the present day cricketers from Sachin to Warne, Viru, Lara, Ponting, Gilly, Haydos, Murali, Jayasuriya, Sanga, Pieterson, and so on rate Sir Viv as their HERO and IDOL. HE was the ultimate entertainer, no helmet and not much of protective gear and yet he was the King out there on the field with the bat. See his videos on YOU TUBE.
Re: Is Sachin the "Master" ?
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:27 PM
greatest ever for india? just your opinion-and many others. TO Sir Gary it is Sunny.Now dont try to establish that you know cricket more than Sir Gary.
Re: Re: Is Sachin the "Master" ?
by Debasish on Mar 30, 2010 04:41 PM
It’s truly debatable if he is the best or Gavaskar is & honestly speaking I shouldn't have compared, since I myself is against comparison. I know what Gary said. But Gavaskar himself keeps Sachin way ahead of himself. May be from modesty but it is also true that Gary didn't play against Sachin. So he did the actual blander calling Sunny the best. As I said no one should be compared, particularly with another person completely of different generation. I should correct myself "Possibly Greatest ever batsman for India". But to the best of my knowledge he is considered the greatest even by Gavaskar & all of ealrier generation Indian cricketers.
Re: Is Sachin the "Master" ?
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:29 PM
yes sachin is just one of the best of his era-Ricky, according to me is better for his average and selfless style.
I am sure everyone must have come across this. since it is inevitable. I am talking about the automatic pop ups. how many of us like the ad pop ups? the one that automatically expands from the right side of the page. Why dont we request rediff to stop this irritation? or are there any options available to stop this other than stop visiting rediff site altogether?
Anyone knows Babe Ruth?The greatest baseball player and popular in handful of countries-Same goes with this fellow sachin- Dont understand why his fan jump relentless for the records that he scores-these are just records within 10 countries , or maybe less.What value does these have? If this fella is the master of the game, how many WCs out of the 5 he played,has India won?
Re: Who is Sachin
by Takloo Haiwan on Mar 30, 2010 04:32 PM
Over 100 crores peoples know him. Undetstand the number of people & no number of countries.
Re: Who is Sachin
by honey hadda on Mar 30, 2010 04:09 PM
dude ...........firsly even if hes known in 10 countries those 10 countries contribute to half of the world total population(incl india) so dont open up ur mouth if u dont know the entire thng.............secondly y he has not won the world cup coz Cricket Wc is won by the best team and not the best player.................and one more thng even if babe ruth is known in select countries still his class is permanent and if g8 if other ppl know abt it tooo..........Sachin is the greatest accn to me in cricktn terms
Re: Who is Sachin
by Oscar on Mar 30, 2010 04:05 PM
If cricket like Tennis would have been an individual game sachin would have won all the 5 world cups. But cricket is a team game. He is one of the top three scorers in all the world cup he played
Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:08 PM
how can maradona's brillance win a WC in a global team sport?surely, you agreed that sachin is a just a genius but not the master of his game.
Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by Sameer on Mar 30, 2010 04:14 PM
so you mean to say that the goalkeeper didnt save goals, the center forwards and forwards didn't score goals/ pass to maradona and the defenders didnt defend against anyone ?
Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by Junior Don on Mar 30, 2010 04:13 PM
Beta thomas how many world cups south africa won, inspite of having best allrounder in kallis???
Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:15 PM
yes kallis to is good player, but not the master-Viru is the closest master in cricket, who can influence a team sport victory.not kallis and sachins of the world.
Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by honey hadda on Mar 30, 2010 04:13 PM
wht u call as brilliance is wht normal ppl call cheatn tht hand of god thngy was a chatn whoever u may justify it...........even maradona says tht was not fair on the other team.........get ur facts right first man
Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:17 PM
@honey, cheat?sachin is a bigger cheat and even cheats IT returns-he pleads not to follow WADA guidelines-what does that prove?he is guilty minded to get caught in dope test.Sachin fans are no different from Nityananda followers.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by honey hadda on Mar 30, 2010 04:14 PM
aarhhh so many writn errors guys just make out urself plz........* cheatn...*however
Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by Sameer on Mar 30, 2010 04:24 PM
Thomas is a jackarse.. but maradonna was a great football player. Him being a dope addict is his personal life... no need to drag that when you talk about his professional life.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:19 PM
cheat?sachin is a bigger cheat and even cheats IT returns-he pleads not to follow WADA guidelines-what does that prove?he is guilty minded to get caught in dope test.Sachin fans are no different from Nityananda followers.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by Sameer on Mar 30, 2010 04:26 PM
IT returns ? are you tarded ? there is virtually 0 chance of that happening. If your dad is a business man, am dead sure he cheats on taxes.
About WADA -- well its our choice not to follow that. no one cares about what you think dimwit
Re: Who is Sachin
by Debasish on Mar 30, 2010 04:21 PM
I see lot of controversies & personal attack on calling Sachin “The great”. Instead of doing that, why don't you look at the issue with an open eye ? Sachn is undoubtedly the best now. I don't know who can be called a Master. If it is somebody who can do magic, I am sorry, Sachin is not so. He is best in the present era. That' all & it's always foolish to compare somebody with others, whether from same game or other. But he has given a lot to Indian cricket & won many matches single handedly, may not be in WC semi or final, but in other matches or tournamnets. We should salute him. Parellely it's also true, he was vulnerable against many top class bowlers, I remember very well how McGrath used to bowl him & enjoy beating one after another delivery. It is fact that Sachin's defence was not that solid, as his natural style was aggressive batting. He got the extra strength from his heavy bat. He would never be able to cross Lara's achievements of tons in single innings. But again, there is gems & pitfalls in everybody. Be it Gavaskar, Lara or Richards.. Sachin is not exception too. Greatest ever batsman for India.
Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:25 PM
its ur opinion, and may be saurav's.According to Sir Gary the greatest ever is Sunny.You have to respect Gary's knowledge on cricket.
Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by Prashant Lokhande on Mar 30, 2010 04:48 PM
Mr. Thomas.. I think u have any personal problem with Sachin. If every world acknowlege his talent, then why r u not going through that.. If ur opinion about sachin is not matching with others. then let others do their own home work complete na??? why r u trying to prove such things which u dont know.. I think u forgot one thing that everyone is not saying that sachin is the god of cricket.. the only saying is that he is the best player in todays world of cricket.. coz the way he plays is just a miracle.. bcoz my dear friend.. every cricketer in the past had many chances to prove themselves. but this Little Master has the only one who hold his continues form over 14 yrs. Everyone is saluting to his achievement & his his presence to this cricket.. He presence in this game is just pleasure for us.. then instead of acknowledging the person why u waste ur time in such things... I think u dont have any other timepass...
Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by Sameer on Mar 30, 2010 04:28 PM
well everyone is entitled to his opinion. Gary thinks Sunny is the best and Sunny always believed that Sachin is the best from the past 2 decades.
Either ways you lose... loser ---- well not that it was a big secret that you are a loser in real life , but just stating the facts nevetheless
Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:32 PM
you have no logical sense left and that why you attack me.thats human behavior.who are you to decide who is the loser?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is Sachin
by Sameer on Mar 30, 2010 05:08 PM
wait what .. i don't have logical sense left -- funny the kettle calling the pot black !!!
I really get amused seeing the cricket brain of rediff-readers. They are so intelligent & good reader of the game, they can pinpoint exactly where is the mistake each & every player is committing. Why Yuvi fails, why Ganguly should be out of the team, why xyz should play or should not. Guys, land on practical field. It's not an easy “game”(!!). T20 is not the same cricket what these players have been playing so far. You see last match star Warner, who devastated KKR's bowling, doesn’t have even an average success in 1-day game. Sachin is playing great this year because he is in good form since January, otherwise if you see previous T-20 profile, he even was not that good. Anyway, that doesn't prove/disprove his talent. Kallis was also not hit before IPL3, see what he is doing this time. If players of this stature even, are becoming so unpredictable, why some of you guys are behaving like idiots & passing hatred to your playres of dislike Ganguly or anybody else.. Don't you think, at any day of the year they will play better than you ? Yes, I understand, your parents didn't take you at cricket coaching camp in your childhood, that’s why you are passing comments in rediff & not playing in IPL, otherwise you should have held the orange or purple cap of IPL by this time. But when that has happened, please accept it & watch the game.
Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 03:33 PM
correct , basically the indian crciket fans have head like fanatics-they defy logical sense and worship sportsmen-they cant analysis why Sachin defies the WADA guidelines, which all other sportsmen respect-they cant understand that cricket is a team game and figures are no good if your team is second best.
Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by Sameer on Mar 30, 2010 03:37 PM
he averaged 31 and 33 in IPL 1 and 2 . How much average you expect players to have in t20 cricket ?
Re: Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by Debasish on Mar 30, 2010 03:47 PM
If you are asking the question to some of the Rediff readers who understand the game more than Bob Woolmar, they will reply 230. Ganguly should be thrown out because he is short by 200 runs. He is not even a club standard batsman, much overhyped captain.. because whatever matches he won for India, its all becuase of Jagmohon Dalmiya. Even Dalmiya surely gets surprised sometimes seeing people give him so much due credit what he himself doesn't dream to claim. Hats off to rediff-ers who collects so much info about Cricket.
Re: Re: Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 03:54 PM
hey debu, the worshippers of cows and goats dont like tigers- just ignore their blogs.
Re: Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 03:48 PM
hey brainwashed hero worshipper, ask your idol to help India win 1 WC-he has played 5 WCs already.His records are with respect to 10 countries-no good.
Re: Re: Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by Chocolat on Mar 30, 2010 04:02 PM
this hero was the leading runs scorer in more than 2 of the 5 WCs he played. Unfortunately, he had 10 other dimwits as team mates. What do you expect he do, bat for the 10 others and bowl 50 overs to win India the WC?
Re: Re: Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by Sameer on Mar 30, 2010 03:58 PM
hey braindead thomas, ask the other 10 players to keep up. Why don't you go there and win the WC ? oh wait -- thats right... you don't even have a functioning brain, what cricket talent could you possibly have ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:01 PM
how can you say your idol is the master?To me master is someone like Maradona- who can win a WC singlehandedly- and in a global sport.Ask your idol to win a WC for a sport played among 10 countries atleast.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:13 PM
@sameer, thats what the whole world see in 1986 and the sports lovers believe- you are ignorant about sports, it proves.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by Chocolat on Mar 30, 2010 04:03 PM
yeah....Maradona...that cheat and cocaine doper. He cheated against England in 86 and put the blame on God. What a cheat! And where the hell was he in 1990. Not even a shadow.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by Sameer on Mar 30, 2010 04:10 PM
you go and win it for India then. Since its played only in 10 countries, why don't you go out in the field and show Sachin how to win the WC ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by Sameer on Mar 30, 2010 04:16 PM
@thomas ,
You are brain dead for sure... Chocolat said maradona was a doper and you reply it to me. Were you dropped on your head as a child or is stup1dity your natural talent
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by thomas on Mar 30, 2010 04:06 PM
@sameer, cocaine cant produce skills-but doping can make sure you stay longer to score more.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by Sameer on Mar 30, 2010 04:09 PM
lol maradona didn't win the world cup single handedly. This leads me to believe that you are a ZERO when it comes to sports.
Re: Splendid cricket knowledge of Rediff readers
by Oscar on Mar 30, 2010 04:12 PM
whatever u say, write tons of explanation , write pages defending ganguly, nothing will work. Each and every Indian, apart from west bengal and Shahrukh Khan,knows that Ganguly is over
