I really appreciate Murali. During he played active cricket, he responded all the controversy around him with his bowling. Now he retired from the cricket as LEGEND, now he has free time to hit back all those who can't control their tongue. Well done Murali, you are real human being and great sports man.Now I admire you more for your genuine personality.
So beware all those folks, who want to take a DIG on Murali, he is ready to play off the field now :)
Re: Right thing Murali....
by Rajesh S on Jul 29, 2010 06:13 AM
well said. i dont see any reason why bedi should have any business calling him a chucker. He is an all time cricketing great. He was very gentle and sportsmanlike.
Re: Right thing Murali....
by mohan on Jul 29, 2010 10:10 AM
Just one more point. If Murali decides to sue under-achiever Bedi, Bedi will be wiped out without need for a doosra. He will go bankrupt. I hope Mr Bedi will be able to handle the heat.
Chucking is good for cricket as it gives more balance between the ball and the bat. Nowadays all the cricket rules are in favour of batsman. So there is nothing wrong in allowing chucking in bowling to make the contest between the ball and bat exciting. ICC can even say a bowler can simply throw the ball and no need for bowling.
in sport let the best 'man' - or team win. Bedi did his bit in his generation. Murli has proven his expertise in a more competetive arena. Let them both take pride of place where they belong. Personally looking at todays demands, looks like Murli is more productive
Please touch your heart and say, Murali is not a chucker. India would have followed-on in the second test had this guy not retired and would have been apparently chucking. That's the way he bowls and he is not to be sinned against, but he is a chucker when he bowls, agree with me?
Re: Murali chucker
by mohan on Jul 28, 2010 11:03 PM
What logic is this ? If McGrath or Curtly Ambrose had bowled India may have followed-on in second test, why just Murali ? When Gavaskar and Kapil retired, India took a while to get such accomplished players. Other teams also will take time.
If ICC is letting Murali bowl, then he's legal, whether we touch our heart or not.
Re: Re: Murali chucker
by msgblogger on Jul 28, 2010 11:28 PM
Mohan ..I admire him for his achievements but the fact remain that he is a chucker.He has to thank Dalmiya and BCCI for his long career.Just bcoz Dalmiya wanted the Sri Lankan votes for the lobbying at ICC in the mid 90s ..he got a prolonged career...else he wud have been banned by 94.Same with Shoaib Akthar
Re: Re: Re: Murali chucker
by mohan on Jul 28, 2010 11:33 PM
The point is, if it is so obvious as you make it seem, then why doesn't someone like Bedi go to cricket playing purist circles legally and overturn ICC rules ? Why is he sniping at and castigating a player ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Murali chucker
by msgblogger on Jul 28, 2010 11:38 PM
Dude its a fact that both akthar and murali got their career due to the iCC politics of 90s.Bedi has been telling this all along ..even when murali didnt even have 100 wickets.And what legal stuffs are you talking about? he he he .Like you and me bedi is entitled to his opinion and he is a straight talking individual .And Today Prasanna and Maninder also have supported the views ..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Murali chucker
by mohan on Jul 29, 2010 12:39 AM
How can we support disgraceful, unsolicited behavior ? Ok so 15 years of unsolicited harassment from Bedi has resulted in Murali questioning in straight-talk way for first time.
When Tendulkar, Warne and other legends accept and acknowledge Murali, surely Bedi is a non-entity.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Murali chucker
by satish chandar on Jul 29, 2010 09:20 AM
With naked eye, B Lee is a chucker, Tait is a chucker, Flintoff is a chucker, Many WI fast bowlers are chuckers!!! If Open chest bowling can be allowed, then why not Side arm bowling?? Malinga is unique.. But not a chucker(As per rules..)..
Murali has naturally bent arm.. Please go thru the analysis conducted during that time.. Even Hadlee, Holding and many other greats bent arm above the permissible limits.. ICC dint want to create a havoc by doing it and allowed Murali..
Technology is better than naked eye and it proved Murali's action is fine!! What else do we need to say!!
Re: Re: murali ..
by Anwar Ali on Jul 28, 2010 11:29 PM
get your facts right. Malinga, has a slinging action, but it is perfectly LEGAL. Jeff Thompson, the famous Aussie expresss fast bowler also had a slinging action, although Malinga's is a lot more round-armed. However, with that kind of action, it is almost impossible to "chuck" and there is no straightening of the arm, definitely not more than 15 degrees as the law states. So, he is by no means a chucker. Murali is clean too, we just have to accept the results of the scientific tests that were done with the sensors attached to his arm, while he bowled, there was not much straightening, but still he turned the ball a mile. Shoaib Akhtar, Murali etc. have defects in their arms, which sometiems give the impression that they chuck, but in reality, it is NOT chucking. Lets just appreciate Murali's phenomenal achievement and forget silly comments from idiots who crave for attention (READ: Bedi).
Re: Re: Re: murali ..
by msgblogger on Jul 28, 2010 11:43 PM
Anwar ..as you say ..if their arms are defective and it gives and undue advantage to them ..isnt it unfair to other bowlers? And for the handicapped ..there are other section of sports.And regarding the lab tests ..if a person is a cheat ..you dont ahve to teach him how to bowl during the tests.Its different from match conditions ..They have to thank the sub continent lobby of ICC int he 90s for their run
Re: Re: Re: Re: murali ..
by Anwar Ali on Jul 29, 2010 01:57 AM
@msgblogger: well, you might be right, that might give an "unfair" advantage, but again so did our own Chandrashekar, but the point remains, it was still within the rules. But, again, u assume that Murali is a cheat. I saw clippings from the tests done by Univ of South Australia. And even in those tests, Murali was turning the ball a mile, like always. So, you see he was clearly not "cheating". make no mistake, his defect is that he has a bent arm, and a hyper-flexible wrist, both unusual, and abnormal. But, as long as he plays within the rules, it is not cheating. Let us spare Murali for that. Its kind of like Arnold Schwarzenegger - he was Mr. Olympia for a record 7 times, he took plenty of steroids at a time when it was LEGAL to do so. Since then, it has been banned. But, you can't accuse Arnold of cheating, can you? BTW, I am not comparing Murali's frame to Schwarzenegger :)
Former australian cricketer Shane Warne is in trouble again. Warne was arrested at 1:45 a.m. on Tuesday morning for suspicion of driving under the influence and possession of cocaine after police stopped him outside Sugar Daddy’s, a Scottsdale, AZ nightclub. Believe it or not, Sugar Daddy’s is NOT a strip club. Reports indicate Warne, driving alone, backed his BMW out of the club’s parking lot without noting oncoming traffic and nearly hit a parked sheriff’s car. One of three officers working on a special holiday DUI task force pulled him over and, as he approached the vehicle, “observed a white powder substance on the center console of the vehicle. Warne was wiping the dash off as I approached”. Warne voluntarily submitted to a field sobriety test … which he failed. Officers then discovered “two bags of a white powder substance … in his back left pocket. In addition, a bag was located on the driver seat in a Marlboro cigarettes pack”.
According to a police statement, Warne “admitted to using today and stated he is an addict and has a problem. Warne admitted to possessing bags of cocaine and said he uses any time he can get his hands on it.”
Re: Why Bedi never criticises Shane Warne, a known addict???
by Junior Don on Jul 28, 2010 10:55 PM
addiction helps in spinning the mind as well as ball.
Bedi was great too, but he has no right to critisize Murali.Bedi was a bad captain, unfit and ovrebowled himself.Lets not forget Shoaib Akhter and Brett Lee who also have suspect actions. The Australians in particular, but most white cricketing nations just cannnot bear to see cricketers from the subcontinent excel.What they themselves do is to be excused.Take for example, the English started body line , but complained when West Indies became better at it.Australians literally began the sledging game, but could not tolerate it when they got it back from Bhajji.
Re: Murali Vs bedi
by Anwar Ali on Jul 28, 2010 11:35 PM
Bhajji is a foul-mouthed specimen, that India can do well without. Most Aussies indulge in sledging, and most of the time, it is just playing on the mental strength of batsmen. Like reminding the batsman of his shortcomings and weaknesses, reminding him that his average against Aus is low, things of that nature. When Pakis and Indians, play, lot of times, it is plain foul-mouthed garbage, the likes of Afridi, Gambhir, Md. Yousuf, Bhajji etc. Most people forget that in the Eden Gardens test in 1999, it was Md. Yousuf (then Yousuf Youhana) who triggered the crowd reaction that led to the stadium being cleared. All because of one Paki. Bhajji is no better... like Bedi he in only bringing a bad name to the Surd community by running his mouth more than he thinks. (Does he even think??)
