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D S
Ian chappel DOES NOT LIKE india having fast bowlers
by D S on Jan 13, 2010 07:21 AM  | Hide replies

Ian chappel DOES NOT LIKE india having fast bowlers. He has to find defects in them and make sure that dont come to level of Auz. This is what a wrong bowling coach will do.

Quite the same mentality is behind racist attacks is to bog down the opposition.

McGrath intimidated lankans as well.

Indians are becoming the biharis of Australia.
Things will not be easy for indians in Auz.


Atleast in india, we can dismantle some states such as bihar (merge parts of it to bengal, MP, orrisa, up) and re-organize UP,
purify purabia areas who have been raped by biharis rampage, etc.

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D S
Re: Ian chappel DOES NOT LIKE india having fast bowlers
by D S on Jan 13, 2010 07:24 AM
it is stupid to assume any outside thinking good of india.

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D S
Re: Re: Ian chappel DOES NOT LIKE india having fast bowlers
by D S on Jan 13, 2010 07:27 AM
especially ghoora

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D S
Re: Re: Re: Ian chappel DOES NOT LIKE india having fast bowlers
by D S on Jan 13, 2010 07:28 AM
or ghoora colonized Kaalas who brain have been twisted by ghooras.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ian chappel DOES NOT LIKE india having fast bowle
by Against Pseudos on Jan 13, 2010 09:07 AM
D S:

What category does Gary Kirsten belong?

A pure Indian? :)

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D S
Re: Ian chappel DOES NOT LIKE india having fast bowlers
by D S on Jan 13, 2010 07:22 AM
india needs to a good coach and rotate its bowlers, batsmen, wicketkeept and captain.


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Against Pseudos
Re: Ian chappel DOES NOT LIKE india having fast bowlers
by Against Pseudos on Jan 13, 2010 09:04 AM
D S:

Ian Chappell is NOT the Indian team's bowling coach. :)

Nor has his statements got anything to do with racism or the Indian states and geography. :)

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hariharan
MR. IAN CHAPPELL
by hariharan on Jan 13, 2010 07:16 AM  | Hide replies

Mr. Ian Chappel is not abusing India. He is just advising India to have good Bowlers. There is noting wrong in this.

We should take his advise in good spirit and look for good bowlers and better fielding.

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D S
Re: MR. IAN CHAPPELL
by D S on Jan 13, 2010 07:22 AM
Ian chappel DOES NOT LIKE india having fast bowlers

Ian chappel DOES NOT LIKE india having fast bowlers. He has to find defects in them and make sure that dont come to level of Auz. This is what a wrong bowling coach will do.

Quite the same mentality is behind racist attacks is to bog down the opposition

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D S
Re: Re: MR. IAN CHAPPELL
by D S on Jan 13, 2010 07:22 AM
india needs to a good coach and rotate its bowlers, batsmen, wicketkeept and captain.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: MR. IAN CHAPPELL
by Against Pseudos on Jan 13, 2010 08:58 AM
D S:

Good point. If we don't listen to Ian, we can go on pretending that we DO have good bowlers and that will ultimately benefit us, as it did to hold on to our #1 ODI spot for a full 23 hours. :)

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Sameer
Re: Re: MR. IAN CHAPPELL
by Sameer on Jan 13, 2010 09:23 AM
Wait what ? Please point out the good fast bowlers with their averages please. Don't be a moron, Chappel is right... Why Chappel, ask any cricketeer and he will say the same.

Great teams have always had great bowlers. Remember a good bowler will more often than not do better than a great batsman.

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RAJ sharma
CHAPPAL's logic...
by RAJ sharma on Jan 13, 2010 04:48 AM  | Hide replies

...its funny how chappal suffers from insecurity and verbal diarreaha,every Indian is well aware how he ruined a cohesive TEAM INDIA in a matter of weeks with his old-fashioned 'gora' mentality of divide & rule.First & foremost he ruined the career of the man who got him the job and then made further divisions in the team.Chappal belongs to an era where ODI cricket was still new therefore his knowledge on the way the game is played today is highly questionable and to top it, this man is a hypocrite of a very high standard,lets take into account what he says presently,India has reached the no.1 spot without two good bowlers and India as well as other countries waited for Australian team to decline and then go for the top spot.chappal forgets he is talking about cricket not politics or business.It is quite evident that the old man craves for the limelight and when the media is free from covering major sporting events,they give ex-cricketers like him who long to give their opinion on everything.media should just ban this chappal in the future.

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akil sethuraman
Re: CHAPPAL's logic...
by akil sethuraman on Jan 13, 2010 06:58 AM
hey loser...the chappal that coached India was Greg...this is Ian Chappal...

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sachin
Re: Re: CHAPPAL's logic...
by sachin on Jan 13, 2010 07:56 AM
with who did he lose???

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sachin
Re: CHAPPAL's logic...
by sachin on Jan 13, 2010 06:46 AM
chappals-----gerg ....ian... are different.....greg was the one who used to come with brilliant ideas as a coach of India.....not meant for cricket though.....

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Against Pseudos
Re: CHAPPAL's logic...
by Against Pseudos on Jan 13, 2010 06:23 AM
RAJ Sharma:

There is only one sentence to describe your essay.

You are a great cricketing fan.

How about starting on a journey to learn cricket, its present and past contributors and understanding the nuisances of the game? :)

BTW, if you are right, the ICC rankings will show itself. As they did in the ODI #1 ranking episode. :)

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drax
Re: CHAPPAL's logic...
by drax on Jan 13, 2010 07:18 AM
WOwwwww great post. Only problem is you gaot it all wrong from the beginning itself. ;)

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K Kumar
Aussies are perennial cry babies, and racists
by K Kumar on Jan 13, 2010 04:34 AM  | Hide replies

These slave prisoners from England of past centuries suddenly realize they have been put in their place by Indian cricket team on the field, so they are attaching Indian students in Australia. They are cowards, have no guts, shameless slave prisoners as they are from history.

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Against Pseudos
Re: Aussies are perennial cry babies, and racists
by Against Pseudos on Jan 13, 2010 06:24 AM
K Kumar:

Your history knowledge is commendable. :)

And as a slave non-prisoner, you have written an excellent summary of the British history. :)

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Nikhil Shah
Yes, India does have the resources to be no 1.
by Nikhil Shah on Jan 13, 2010 04:32 AM  | Hide replies

Before India was ranked no 1, there was talk that it will never be no 1 because they don't have fast bowlers. Well the reason they are no 1 is because of that.

Bowling in India is difficult for the fast bowlers where the English conditions plus fast and grassy pitches are not there. But the Indian bowlers along with better batting have overcome this problem in ODIs as well as Tests.
India lacked champion bowlers it can solve this problem by using the horses for courses theory and split the attack based on the conditions. For ODIs the solution is finding the right mix of pace and accuracy and Zaheer, Nehra and Sudeep can do well with average of about 35 and Eco rate of 5.5 in the sub-continent.

In the Test arena, Zaheer can get either Sreesanth or Ishant in India and both of them overseas. This make the pace attack more effective overseas with pace and better bowling strike rates. Compared to the past, the fast bowling trio will have a strike rate of 9 overs, good enough to bowl a team out before the end of a days play, or go after the tailenders with second new ball. There is a breakdown point, if the seamers cannot go after the tail with the 2end new ball teams will typically score more than 500.





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Happy Indian
Re: Yes, India does have the resources to be no 1.
by Happy Indian on Jan 13, 2010 07:41 AM
We came to be number one because of team effort not because of just good batsmen or bowlers

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Ronny
Ian chappel
by Ronny on Jan 13, 2010 04:27 AM

I Totally agree with you india can only win in sub-continent watch they will loose against srilanka tomorrow then will going be lowering down in the spot
India will be on number 1 spot they dont deserve that only aussies can be no.1

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praveen
indians on drugs they will be out soon
by praveen on Jan 13, 2010 04:24 AM

indians on drugs they will be out soon

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Narayanan Sangameswaran
Do you need Ian to know what is happening?
by Narayanan Sangameswaran on Jan 13, 2010 04:08 AM  | Hide replies

It is funny the way some of the readers gets excited about Ian's comment. They think 'he's is looking thru a skewed (green) glass. I dont think we need him to say what he said. Can we take out opponents' 10 wickets twice consistently anywhere in the world? Can we win the 50 overs World Cup anywhere in the world three times in a row? Twice maybe? Or atleast once? Can we turn around from jaws of defeat to victory like we did in Calcutta, thanks to Lak and Rahul consistently? You know the answer. Yes we are no. 1 now. That is because others are resting.

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Swatantra Jananayaga
Re: Do you need Ian to know what is happening?
by Swatantra Jananayaga on Jan 13, 2010 07:45 AM
A plausible placement of facts and true depiction of reality. You missed the Champion's trophy and the T20 which were fought in Dhoni's leadership. Others are not just resting but slowly and seriously building their teams of future. Look at England and the rejuvenated Aussies not to forget Pakistan (inconsistencies alternating with brilliance) and West Indies( doing better despite their administration riddled with serious controversies telling upon the players' performance). Chappell's observation needs to be viewed as words of wisdom for any discerning and progressive minded individual, team group, administration and cricketing fraternity. It is not often you get the right kind of advice for our planning from serious competitors, if not adversaries. A good and match winning pace bowler and spinner will catapult our team to several notches higher and be at the top for even a decade as the west indies, and Aussies have demonstrated in their prime years.

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Legionnaire
Ian Chapell racist?
by Legionnaire on Jan 13, 2010 03:32 AM  | Hide replies

For a majority of Indians a good cricketing knowledge means to praise and praise their team. Everyone like praises but Indians are desparate for praises and anyone who suggests weakness and points out limitations is branded as racist and is jealous of India(which is a joke!).

Its amusing when Ian Chapell hails Sehwag to be modern day Bradman Indians call it as great cricketing acuemen.

I wonder how come his cricketing acuemen is suddenly lost when he points out India's lack of bowling resources and its inability to hold number one spot for long. He is now branded as racist by Indians.


BTW its the same Ian Chappell who vouched to include Virendar Sehwag in team before Indian tour of Australia when he was out of the team in wilderness and when these so called self-proclaimed cricket experts were baying for his blood. Everyone knows what a turnaround Sehwag made in his career since that tour.

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abhinav
Re: Ian Chapell racist?
by abhinav on Jan 13, 2010 03:36 AM
well noticed n said

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logical stab
Re: Ian Chapell racist?
by logical stab on Jan 13, 2010 03:49 AM
what does this have to do with being a racist? he just says what he sees, unlike others. the problem with us indian cricket fans is that we need to be realistic and truthful to ourselves when it comes to assessing our cricket team. Most people, when they see comments against an indian cricket team , especially if it is from an australian they either term it racism or question the authority of the person commenting. harbhajan has been very effective over the past, but has had equally bad spells. zaheer is bowling well enough but is he as consistent as McGrath. can the captain look upto bhajji and zaheer all the time for a breakthrough, as ponting/waugh did with McGrath and warne? Not everytime! Often we have see Dhoni look up to yuvraj and sewag for breakthroughs. We have definitely improved as a test team over the past decade and our one day cricket is right up there too. Only thing we need to focus on is to be hungry for more and not be satiated with what we have achieved. Getting to the top is easy, staying there is a tough task. To achieve this tough ask you need quality bowlers to back up a world class batting line up ( is what chappel intends to convey. HOW IS HE A RACIST ?? )

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Gandhirajan S
Re: Re: Ian Chapell racist?
by Gandhirajan S on Jan 13, 2010 04:17 AM
Rightly said.

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Legionnaire
Ian Chapell racist?
by Legionnaire on Jan 13, 2010 03:31 AM

For a majority of Indians a good cricketing knowledge means to praise and praise their team. Everyone like praises but Indians are desparate for praises and anyone who suggests weakness and points out limitations is brandest as racist and is jealous of India(which is a joke!).

Its amusing when Ian Chapell hails Sehwag to be modern day Bradman Indians call it as great cricketing acuemen.

I wonder how come his cricketing acuemen is suddenly lost when he points out India's lack of bowling resources and its inability to hold number one spot for long. He is now branded as racist by Indians.


BTW its the same Ian Chappell who vouched to include Virendar Sehwag in team before Indian tour of Australia when he was out of the team in wilderness and when these so called self-proclaimed cricket experts were baying for his blood. Everyone knows what a turnaround Sehwag made in his career since that tour.







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