Re: Re: Re:
by koni on Dec 25, 2010 05:17 PM
cricket is not single man game. if its single man, every world cup is sachin's. which team plays superb in the tournament, they are winners.
Re: Visvanathan Anand deserves the Bharat Ratna b4 Tendulkar. One
by kareem on Dec 24, 2010 07:15 PM
yeah, he got already..2 barath ratna nobody will get..then popularity..that is fate..real games paly all over the world, boring criket plays only few..we comple to follow ..shikkari shambu dhoni making cror and cror
GOOD return as a in born batsman with a self dedication to the core of the heart to the entire world. ' 'keep it up sachin god bless u one more generation
1. Sachin Tendulkar (Right Hand) Opening Batsman (Leading Run Scorer) 2. Sanath Jayasuriya (Left Hand) Opening Batsman (2nd Leading Run Scorer) 3. Viv Richards (Right Hand) Middle Order (One of the Destructive Batsman, 47 Avg with 90 SR) 4. Brian Lara (Left Hand) Middle Order(Having a Avg over 40 and a SR of 80) 5. Jacques Kallis (Right Hand) All Rounder (11,000 ODI runs and 259 wickets) 6. Michael Bevan (Left Hand) Lower Middle Order (The third highest batting average of all time, 53.58 in 232 matches, and arguably the greatest 'finisher' the game has ever seen) 7. Adam Gilchrist (Left Hand) (Best W/K Batsman ever in ODI Format, A strike-rate of 96.94, an average of almost 36) 8. Joel Garner (Fast Bowler) (The greatest economy rate in ODI history, conceding just 3.09 runs per over and just 19 Avg) 9. Wasim Akram (Left Arm Fast Bowler) (One of two players to have taken more than 500 ODI wickets and a destructive batsman late in the innings) 10. Michael Holding (Fast Bowler) (Averaged 21.36 with the ball at an outstanding economy rate of 3.32) 11. Muttiah Muralidaran (Spinner) (The highest wicket-taker in ODI cricket of all time, taking an incredible 517 wickets at an average of 23.11)
Beat this Team - Having Top 2 Highest Run Scorer in the Game and Top 2 Wicket Taker also. Best All Rounder and Best W/K Batsman and Best All time Finisher and The Best E Rate Bowler also.
Re: Re: My All Time Best ODI Team
by naresh babu on Dec 24, 2010 06:01 PM
If it belongs to all time fev than Imraan khan and kapil have no place here as they can not replace kallis this is what i believe.
Re: Re: Re: Re: My All Time Best ODI Team
by naresh babu on Dec 24, 2010 06:12 PM
I never said you to get agreed with my belief, I said this is what i think , second he putted his assumption where i am commenting on this as per my assumption, now from where ICC came here in this discussion.
Top of it your attitude is giving shitt picture of your character. Grow up.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My All Time Best ODI Team
by Sameer on Dec 24, 2010 06:41 PM
Naresh
about my character
I admire winners and achievers because I am one of them though not as good as them. They give me a sense of purpose to push myself to achieve greater things
You on the other hand,are not a winner in any form. Hence you find the hero worship bit too much, because no one ever worshipped you as a hero. you were never looked up to , and now you feel left out when millions look up to someone. Hence you go about finding faults in that someone ( because no ones perfect right) and try to get a feel good for self factor going.
I actually attended a human psychology class , not because I was a psychology major, but because I was a TA for that professor.
your attitude and some of the ones on the forum fit the bill to perfection.
hey what can i say , Am a born winner - so sue me ?
Re: Re: My All Time Best ODI Team
by Senthil on Dec 25, 2010 06:05 PM
Sameer:
Sure, Warne has the cleanest Action but ICC allowed Murali to bowl and He bowled like a champion and Done excellently well. If you know why Murali is allowed he has 14 or 15 Deg Bend Elbow but Even Bowlers like McGrath had 13 so ICC Tweaked 12 to 15 Deg and termed all as Legal, So I take the Better bowler.
As I said, with out Bevan, this World XI is incomplete and Ponting is like a Player, No Hyden and no Ponting Show. Stats proved it and Lara and Ponting had very similar Stats but Lara faced the better attack then Ponting Faced so Lara out scored Ponting in those 2 Things
Re: My All Time Best ODI Team
by Sameer on Dec 24, 2010 06:08 PM
Senthil
there might be a small flaw in your selection criteria. While you analysis is accurate
For All rounder - you need an attacking all rounder. Someone who picks wickets and scores quik runs. I don't think Kallis is there.
Bevan -- again is more of a guy that nudges the ball around and rotates the strike. While that is excellent in a team, when you are selecting the top ODI team ever, you shouldn't have to select someone who can nudge things around. Since batsmen before him are the best in the world.
Re: Re: My All Time Best ODI Team
by Senthil on Dec 25, 2010 03:21 PM
Sameer,
I looked at every angle before Selection. Do you think Kallis Batting is not attacking or his Bowling? He do when reqd. He has 11,000 runs and 259 wickets and I believe He had scored and taken those at a better rate then other competitors.
Bevan is the Finest Finisher ever seen in the ODI History, He is a Man for crises as well. Bevan scored runs faster when Needed. I m damn sure Bevan will get as much as Vote Sachin get. He has such a reputation.
We will see whom Majority of people going to pick for All Rounder slot
There is lot of clamour for giving Bharat Ratna to Ten. I checked up Kallis record.
Kallis in Tests: 143 Tests (32 less than Ten), 242 innings (44 less than Ten) - He has scored 11650 runs at an average of 56.82 (Ten average in Tests is 56.91) and has scored 38 centuries. He has also taken 269 wickets in Tests.
Kallis in one dayers: 307 Matches (135 less than Ten); 293 innings - Scored 11002 runs at an average of 45.84 (Ten average is 45.12). Besides the runs, he has taken 259 wickets in one dayers.
Seeing his records, I have written to the South African Government to give the `Diamond of South Africa' award to Kallis (South Africa is famous for its diamonds - but I do not knwo whether such an award is given by them). I am yet to hear from them. I believe he deserves it, given his track record as the best all rounder the game of cricket has seen! He should certainly be the best cricketer of the decade 2001-10!
Re: `Diamond of South Africa' award for Kallis
by Anirban Nag on Dec 24, 2010 04:46 PM
i totally agree with this.. KALLIS is the "SOUTHAFRICA RATNA" awarded man.. as with that 11650 runs he took 269 wickets.. every 100 wickets in tests is considered as 2000 runs as murali got 800 wickets is termed as 16000 test runs!!so in that regards kallis already got over 17000 test runs (11650 runs 5400 runs in terms of 270 wickets almost) & he got good 2 to 3 years left in him!! don't know where will he finish, may be with over 14000 test runs with around 325 wickets!!(14000 runs & 6500 runs, converting 325 wickets =over 20000)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! staggering astonishing, better than sobbers & is the best all rounder ever in tests as well as ODIs (with over 10000 ODI runs already with around or over 250 wickets as well there, no one can even imagine or believe that all round performance)
Re: Re: `Diamond of South Africa' award for Kallis
by Anirban Nag on Dec 24, 2010 05:51 PM
actually 11000 ODI runs already as well so might finish with around 12000-12500 ODI runs!! astonishing
Re: `Diamond of South Africa' award for Kallis
by murgikhanewala on Dec 24, 2010 05:44 PM
Solomon kallis is indeed an all time great player, no doubt but You are a BIG LOSER
Re: `Diamond of South Africa' award for Kallis
by Muhammed on Dec 24, 2010 05:05 PM
Stunned by the FACTS! So the REAL HERO is not even named & other is Worshiped as GOD!
Re: `Diamond of South Africa' award for Kallis
by Paresh Mandowara on Dec 24, 2010 07:03 PM
Is this debate is about greatest batsman or greatest all rounder??
lets test your logic,math @ cric knowledge a man playing away from home has hit 28 centuries out of 50....out of which 9 for winning cause...11 to draw..and 8 for a defeat when india has won away form home man avgs 87 when lost avg is 38 and when we pull to draw avg is 56....everything else is for you to understand
Re: attention non-techie
by Sameer on Dec 24, 2010 06:01 PM
Guardian
WHY is everyone obsessed with match winning centuries ? Would you rather have the batsmen not try say when they get to 30/3 or 50/4 since from there on winning becomes too tough and they might lose even if they score centuries ?
Seriously
If a player is scoring century and still ending up on losing side, that BASICALLY MEANS HIS TEAM S.U.C.K.S !!!
wow you guys are complete village idiots ( guardian i am not calling you one)
Re: attention non-techie
by techie on Dec 24, 2010 04:22 PM
TOTALLY WRONG DO NOT MAKE FOOOL OF YOUR SELF he does not deserve this award sorry this is truth
