on indian pitches, ind thinks of wining the initial 3 matches of the series of 5 odis n try to induct new players in the remaining 2 inconsequential matches. but in wi, thing wud b diferent. ind may lose 3 matches n still try new players in the remaining 2 inconsequential matches!!! (assuming wi stick to their plan of short pitched deliveries against technically weak bats.)
lets forget which match was fixed for india and which for pak bcaz dis way india can also benifit. Pak has won far more number of matches in cricket and hockey, Tests and ODIs out of total ever played between the two. Different teams have record on thier home grounds for example, west indies didnot hv any defeat in Tests for about over 50 years in Bridg Town I think. Pak never lost any test for about 50 years in Karachi. But something much shameful for india is Pak has records on indian grounds. for example till today so far Pak never lost a single Test in Banglore and never lost a single ODI in kolkatta. This perhaps would be a big big shame for india, that Pak being a smaller in size, stands in front of India as a challenge for india. and far more shame for India is, that Pak not only stands infront of India but has given this bigger country, more defeats so far. What a shame. Lets dont decide on winning matches. Lets decide in different way. 1. Fast bowling is the honour of cricket. Which contry has been famous for its fast and furious bowling. India or Pak? 2. Who invented reverse swing. India or Pak? Pak is inventor and India is follower. India has to follow Pak and learn some reverse swing 3. OK you could be proud of so called spin bowling but look at the reality. who invented "doosra" India or Pak? now follow Pak and learn this technique. match winning is a tiny thing for Pak. Pak is inventor in cricket. India is follower of what we invent. Pak Pak Pak
Re: @ vinay
by vinay on Jun 24, 2009 11:07 PM
yes. pak never lost a test in karachi "thanx to the 2 local umpires" when the concept of neutral ump wasnt there.
n pak is the "inventor of match fixing" which is followed by ind.
Re: Re: @ vinay
by sawan sawan on Jun 28, 2009 11:51 PM
Pak has records on indian grounds. never lost a single ODI in Kolkata, and single Test in Banglore right from 1947 till today. record is still continuing.
Re: @ vinay
by Mahendran Sivaprakasam on Jun 24, 2009 05:20 PM
Yes I agree Pak is inventor in cricket. They(Inzamam) invented one pitch catch and claimed a catch in Dubai.
Re: @ vinay
by vishu yadav on Jun 24, 2009 04:39 PM
I agree with you that Pak players demonstrated some fiery and exceptinal skills in bowling. But if you know the proper history then you must understand till early-mid 80's pakistan team was not even a good cricketing nation. They uplifted them after India's world cup heroics in 83. Secondly their success with reverse swing is always in question till this t-20 world cup. Ball tampering and playing with drugs is a common practice in pak cricket. So try to justify greatness of cricket from one country. Admire cricket and cricketers of their skills, not for their nation. Otherwise WI would be all time great untill their current youth had been lured by great bucks in NBA in US and hence we see small bowlers from WI instead of those balck giants of past. Right?
Re: Re: @ vinay
by sawan sawan on Jun 29, 2009 12:18 AM
you miht be right regarding west indian cricket. I wanna add something about Pakies before 1983. Before 1983. Pak was also very strong team even more than India bcaz, Pak never lost a single match on the soil of Pakistan against India right from 1947 to 83, but won different matches in India. It shows Pakistan was better than India even before 83. Pak invented reverse swing in 1970s that is bfore 83. U said, reverse swing is in question, then u should know umpire cheks the ball after every over accrding to new rules so question of ball temperring is perhaps almost solved. and Pak passed on this art to english bowlers. It means it is an art that can be imparted to othe players. Now many bowlers do reverse swing after learning the art. Right from 1947 Pakistan started winning matches against big teams for example they won against england in england those days. There different achivements before 83. for example, hanif made 337 against top west indian bowlers in 1957/58 , that is still a word record of triple century by any batsman in second innings. Is not a greatness that a country came in being in 1947 and started making world records against top west indian bowlers and winning against india and england
without imran nazir, how can t20 team is fair. Imran Nazir nowadays is the best player of all the world. chasing 200 runs in 20 overs game is like a brakefast for him. he starts from the first ball and within some moments makes a line of 6s. Seems like he doesnt belive in 4s. The people who dont include in the list seem to be unaware of his batting or have not watched his game. they look at afridi, but Imran nazir is hundreds time better than afridi, in terms of fast scoring and making huge runs.
Re: worlds no. 1 player
by vinay on Jun 24, 2009 12:25 AM
dont know whether nazir is better or not but he must b 100 times better than this afridi the batsman.
India will perform only in the individual series. But very rarely perform the BIG tournament like WCT20. If you see WI series India will win 3 out of 4 win.