If Dhoni is such a great captain and he is alone responsible for the wins, then:
Why Chennai Superkings lost in both the IPL tournaments?
Why did India loose all the T20 matches (post last world cup win) against New Zealand, South Africa and Australia?
India’s wins in test and one day matches are on the back of superlative performances of Sachin, Shewag, Rahul, Laxman and the bowlers of course. I also don’t believe that committed and vastly experienced players like Sachin, Shewag, Rahul and Laxman need to be motivated, guided and managed by any captain, least by Dhoni. Matches are won by team and not by the captain alone.
A captain is only good as good the team is. Take example of Australia. Till couple of years back, under Ricky Ponting’s captaincy, Australia was winning all the matches. Why are they loosing most of the matches now, even though Ricky Ponting is leading the team. Simple, the retirement of Warne, Gilchrist and Haydon has affected the side’s performance.
So, cut the crap that India is winning because of Dhoni’s captaincy. He is simply too lucky to have talented, committed and non egoistic players such as Sachin, Shewag, Rahul and Laxman, who have been consistently performing well.
Re: Dhoni is just an ordinary player with lots and lots of luck.
by MahendraSingh Dhoni on Jun 12, 2009 10:29 AM
Mr.Avinash Kadam, You are hereby warned not to write such incorrect things about me. I can take you to law. Better you tender an apology in the same forum immediately. I have already instructed the Rediff authorities to track the IP address of your computer and take necessary actions against you.
Re: Dhoni is just an ordinary player with lots and lots of luck.
by vivek chaubey on Jun 12, 2009 07:45 AM
kadam...ur problem is u r marathi n dhoni is bihari....u will always hate dhoni...go n cry in toilet
Re: Re: Dhoni is just an ordinary player with lots and lots of lu
by Avinash Kadam on Jun 12, 2009 08:05 AM
Chaubey, you have lost your Vivek. I've said that its the team which wins the matches and not the captain alone. By the way, do you remember when was the last time Dhoni batted well in any form of the game? May be in your dreams.
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni is just an ordinary player with lots and lots o
by Ashish Kumar on Jun 12, 2009 08:32 AM
We would rather have lucky a person as our captain and not one who always has gods against him and is saddled with so many sins that one thing or the other always goes wrong with him and in the process Indian team suffers.
Re: Dhoni is just an ordinary player with lots and lots of luck.
by gudguy on Jun 12, 2009 07:34 AM
most import what was his contribution to the team - NIL....lets see his last 50 ininngs in all the formats combained...it will be nothing
Re: Re: Dhoni is just an ordinary player with lots and lots of lu
by aishwarya patil on Jun 12, 2009 10:10 AM
He is the No.1 ranked player in the world in ODI. If that is nothing then what is somethinh and what is everything ?
Re: Re: Dhoni is just an ordinary player with lots and lots of lu
by vivek chaubey on Jun 12, 2009 07:38 AM
ipl is more abt money timepass n hot chix...
Re: He can't bat
by MahendraSingh Dhoni on Jun 12, 2009 02:54 PM
It is my team's wish and my wish. I will bet wherever I like and the team wants me. Souvanik dear come and catch me if you dare and can. Don't write nensense sitting at home.
I have go for the nets, its our 1st super 8 match today this evening.
This was bound to happen ! Dhoni should have taken lessons from others before him like Sachin, Saurav and Dravid, in fact, even Kumble. Our media and spectators have a habit of raising a person on a pedestal and then kicking him and they enjoy it thoroughly.
Dear friends, Dhoni as a batsman is the same batsman that he was earlier, the only difference being that earlier the opposition bowlers didnt know much about him, and also we had no expectations from him; so, he could score runs and we also overlooked all the shortcomings that he had as far as his batting technique was concerned.
Also the fact that he led us to a WC win (even if it is T20) and that too just on the tail of a humiliating exit from ODI WC made us give him an aura as well and nothing that he did seemed wrong to us.
Now that the team is winning continuously, we decided that the person lacking is Dhoni himself and start slapping him, and added to that the media who is used to being pampered by all celebrities just could not digest that they were snubbed, and so the result is that Dhoni becomes the bad boy of Indian cricket.
I request all to please shed this habit. I am no fan of Dhoni, but am indeed a fan of Indian cricket, and I respect anybody who allows me to hold my head high when I am in the midst of other cricket-loving people, and as far as media is concerned - Give respect and earn respect.
Re: Dhoni's Transition !
by Swastik on Jun 11, 2009 09:32 PM
Nice one dude, but dhoni co ming at one down is making use of his position as a captain. When there are people in form hugry to get runs he should allow them to do just that. This is one aspect that he screwed up as a captain. His theory of not losing wickets and then go for the kill in the last 6 overs is a dangerous ploy If Yuvraj did not fire earlier India would have had an embarassing defeat with bdesh. hehas not learnt from it and continued at that position. he has done it for last four matches without success He should not get touchy about this and just come down the order
Other aspects of captaincy are good as of now. Media or nomedia, 1 dwn batting by dhoni was a blooper
Re: Re: Dhoni's Transition !
by Lucky B on Jun 11, 2009 10:26 PM
Swastink, What's your problem if Dhoni comes as opener or at number 10th? Whatever India team is today, that is because of experiments, and smart leadership. Don't forget test match against NZ when Dhoni was not leading the team.
Re: Re: Dhoni's Transition !
by LG on Jun 11, 2009 09:36 PM
I am sure you know that respect is earned not asked or begged. I do not think Dobhi has done anything significant to get respect. Dobhi did not win T2020 for India, though he lifted it because he was the captain. Kapil is still respected and admired because he as captain contributed immensely to winning of World Cup in 1983?
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni's Transition !
by martin descent on Jun 12, 2009 12:00 AM
stfu lg.... just be haapy that India is winning... ifs n buts can be many... what if yuvi didn't score ?? then I would say Chawla would have tooken 8 wickets instead of 4 and bangladesh would have been out for 80... so... keep quiet and enjoy the wins..
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni's Transition !
by MahendraSingh Dhoni on Jun 12, 2009 02:58 PM
LG, you are a sorrowfull, rusted, blown off, drenched, crooked, moron, saddist, rotten & neglected kid to your respectful parents. How dare you call me Dhobi ?
Fools make mistake so do intelligent/genius people. Does that mean some fools are intelligent. No.
Similarly, a team having great captain wins matches and so does an ordinary captain having many match winners in his team. It is naïve to call an ordinary captain great or the best without considering the quality of team members and captain’s contributions in those wins.
My point is media has hyped Dobhi who is a club-level cricketer. I have been saying it for long time. From recent comments here, I am glad to know that people have at least realized the truth now.
Re: Best captain?
by aishwarya patil on Jun 12, 2009 10:14 AM
Your words "a club-level cricketer. I have been saying it for long time" has no meaning for the cricketing world. Just satisfy your self ego by writing against your fellow countryman who is bringing laurels to the country.
Re: Re: Best captain?
by pradeep kandpal on Jun 12, 2009 01:41 PM
This is a modus operandi by media persons and their associates, who in disguise and putting different names blaming Dhoni incessantly. The reason is quite obvious that Dhoni dared to tell the media and showed them mirror, which they never expected. actually we all need psychophants, if dont get then criticize.
he is fool with arrogance. He has been hyped by media as a great cricketer and the best Indian captain. Funny thing is he started believing in the hype.
Both fools and intelligent people look cool as they hardly express their emotions.
Then how do you separate intelligent people from fools? ---Check their contributions (for example in cricket their contributions as batsman, bowler, or fielder/WK).
Dobhi has not contributed either as batsman or as wicketkeeper (T20 word cup was won by contributions from other, players).
Re: Dhoni appears cool because..
by sameer bhagwaan on Jun 11, 2009 08:25 PM
You are a sad pile of junk.. Let me put it this way - how many indian captains who have contributed with 100's and 200's or taking 5 or 10 wickets have contributed to India winning in the past 70 years? Dhoni has barely lead India in 50 games, and he has probably won more than Shastri, Vengsarkar, Srikanth, Bedi, Wadekar etc. put together. Less jabber more thought. Dhoni is going to re-write history, and 10 years down the line, you will be fondly remembering his captaincy.. Wait and watch!
Re: Re: Dhoni appears cool because..
by LG on Jun 11, 2009 08:29 PM
In this T20 , captains of other teams WI, NZ, SRL, PAK have played match winning innings. What this Dobhi has done? Nothing. What did he do in IPL 2008 and 2009--nothing.
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni appears cool because..
by LG on Jun 11, 2009 08:33 PM
sameer, you yourself like Dobhi is under delusion--that is why you have ID called ...bhagwan. Pathetic soul--enjoy you dreams they are free.
Re: Re: Dhoni appears cool because..
by Srinivas Mepula on Jun 11, 2009 08:45 PM
Sameer Shab, its SACHIN, DRAVID, VVS, in test matches and Rohit, Zaheer, Bajji, Phathan bros, RP, Robin’s contributions in 2020 and one dayers made INDIA win from past 4 to 5 years!! Not the captaincy.
Re: Re: Dhoni appears cool because..
by Amar Srivastava on Jun 11, 2009 09:48 PM
Its not Dhoni's Intelligence of knowledge but luck and effort by the new comers how are giving their best to fix their position in INDIA team which makes india win....
Re: Dhoni appears cool because..
by vivek chaubey on Jun 12, 2009 07:48 AM
LG..u r a big piece of shit...indians never performed well whn dhoni was not captain....
Re: Dhoni appears cool because..
by MahendraSingh Dhoni on Jun 12, 2009 03:02 PM
LG, Idiot you will loose your sleep if you don't see my batting or keeping. You will always remain a unfullfilled kid and never succeed in your life.
Reach my level, be the captain of Indian cricket team, do something better than me, and then you -"JUNK" dare talk.
Its because of him we were about to loose our first match against Bangladesh.. Thanks for the super innings by Yuvraj. If dhoni does the same in the remaining matches definately it will be difficult to win. This bugger should bat behind harbhajan singh..
Re: Dhoni
by sameer bhagwaan on Jun 11, 2009 08:27 PM
Rubbish - Sachin and Sehwag has failed in more matches combined than Dhoni has .. and at crucial times. Lets tone down the hatred, and wait and watch. I would of course like to see Raina at number 3 personally. And Dhoni at number 5.
Re: Dhoni
by MahendraSingh Dhoni on Jun 12, 2009 03:05 PM
You Hafeez bastad, you and your dynasty will beg for next seven rebirths. How dare you tell bugger. Bloody fool go and support Pakistani team. You can only bark but a kick on your balls will do the job.
Its because of him we were about to loose our first match against Bangladesh.. Thanks for the super innings by Yuvraj. If dhoni does the same in the remaining matches definately if will be difficult to win. This bugger should bat behind harbhajan singh..
TAMILAINS R NOT INDIANS. THEY R OLY TAMILIANS. IF SOME 1 WILL ASK THEM ABT THEIR NATIONALITY THEY WILL SAY TAMIL INSTEAD OF INDIANS. THEY R TROUBLE MAKERS CAUSE THEY THINK TAMIL IS ONLY D LANGUAGE IN THIS WORLD. U CAN C THAT IN LANKA N MALAYSIA N THEY WILL FIGHT WHERE EVER THEYL GO. IF U GO TO BANGALORE HYDERABAD U FEEL AT HOME CAUSE PPL KANNADS N TELUGUS CAN SPEAK HINDI VERY WELL. BUT WHEN EVER U GO MADRAS U FEEL UR OUT OF INDIA. NO 1 IS WILLING TO SPEAK HINDI. EVEN IF A PERSON KNOWS U DONT KNOW TAMIL HEEL REPLY IN TAMIL. SUDHAR JAAV ISSE PEHLAY ITS TOO LATE.
Re: TAMILIANS
by Shiva Lagat on Jun 11, 2009 08:06 PM
Dear Chopra, What are you trying to say here, your thinking and blaming other state's people is a sign of narrow mind people, and I think you have no rights to give advice, better you start the beging of united India from youself after changing yourslef. Do not think that Iam Tamil, I m from Lucknow.
Re: TAMILIANS
by sameer bhagwaan on Jun 11, 2009 08:29 PM
Hahaha - who has the right to enforce language in this country? Why is Hindi the national language when it is spoke as a majority only in UP? Hindi is not the major language in Bihar, Punjab either mind you - it comes behind other local dialects. Just coz some northie dipshit was elected PM 70 years ago, doesnt mean you shove Hindi down the throats of people. Although I do wish people would learn Hindi - but its up to the people - if they dont want to learn who are you to force it down them? Arent we a secular nation?
Re: TAMILIANS
by Hitesh on Jun 11, 2009 07:50 PM
I DONT THINK WE NEED TO DIVIDE OURSELVES UNNECESSARILY AND ABUSE EACH OTHER- WE ARE ALL INDIANS; UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.
Re: Re: TAMILIANS
by Srinivas Mepula on Jun 11, 2009 07:56 PM
you are true Hitesh, INDIA is very big country (in terms of people) nearly 30 major languages and around 1000 minor languages spoken across the country. When you abroad UK or USA or Australia don’t you speak English will you complain !!! just chill mate, did you heard what great Bill Gates said – after Chinese SOUTH INDIANs are most intelligent people on earth…lets not divide our self already politics and our neighbors are trying hard, lets not break ourselves lets be united for ever
Re: TAMILIANS
by Srinivas Mepula on Jun 11, 2009 09:15 PM
believe me same happens when the south IDNIANS they complain the same but that doesn’t mean that we aren’t united, on boarder when a soldier catch a gun he doesn’t say why he should guard Punjab or J&K we have learn from them a lot !!! they are the real heroes, DAY In AND DAY OUT they firmly stand in front of the enemies we sitting in AC rooms we complain about very minor things, they hold guns for hours days months and years they never complain
