Mind it The last decision taken by Umpire not any player if umpire is not good or cheater then this is the fault of umpire not player.if you see the matches when player hit the ball supporter say many word 4 or 6 but umpire takes his own decision.If umpiring is bad dont blame any player.
Re: Srinivas.
by srinivasa g on Jun 09, 2009 01:06 PM
I am not talking about the Umpire's decisions. I am talking about the grounded catches that Ponting & Clarke claimed to have taken fairly.
Re: Re: Srinivas.
by Against Pseudos on Jun 09, 2009 01:10 PM
Srinivas G:
And your point is?....
All wrong appealing Indians should lose every future match?....
All cheating Pakistanis should be thrashed by Lithuanian team?....
What are you trying to say out here?.... there was a captains agreement between Ponting and Kumble prior to the series.... Kumble shouldn't have agreed to players' word being considered final when in doubt.... He did.... Don't tell me that Clarke's catch was the first grounded catch in the history of the game....
Re: Re: Re: Srinivas.
by srinivasa g on Jun 09, 2009 01:16 PM
The agreement in that case was to take the word of catcher. The agreement between the teams was done considering the catcher would not lie/cheat
Appealing for some lbw or nick is totally irrelevant here.
The point is, they lost their goodwill by claiming a catch when the ball was grounded. That is considered cheating.
Re: @vatula....
by vathula on Jun 09, 2009 12:57 PM
We both had 2 bets: Bet#1 Aus victory- i lost. You bet indian victory: It is still open and a long way
Bet#2 Semi Finals: We both said Aus will reach Semis. We both lost
Re: Re: @vatula....
by Srinivas Mepula on Jun 09, 2009 02:00 PM
Two more Bet 1st semis' --> Sri Lanka - West Indies 2nd Semis --> South Africa - Ireland
Fact 1: Indians have been attacked by some Australian in Australia and got injured or killed. Fact 2. Australia team lost two matches in row and is out of the tournament.
After the exit of Aus, people have started venting their angers and hate just to feel good by correlating the two facts.
Do they really care about the people suffering in Australia? I do not think so because none has come out with any solution/action to be taken. If one really cares about someone who got injured, one will first find the solution-apply medicine or taking one to hospital—instead of pondering on why it happened or what could have avoided such thing or venting one’s anger of loved for recklessness.
I am sorry to say that all these people who calling Aus team arrogant or racist are nothing but cowards.
As far as I think, following solutions/actions are viable
Severe economic tie with Australia—hit them hard economically. Stop playing any sport with Aus. Do allow any Aus player to play in IPL.
#1) Cricket is not in their top 6 sports; still they play this game of cricket so well.
#2) In 2008 olympics, austalia won 46 medals incl 14 gold and was placed 6th in the world. In the previos Athens they won 49 (17 Gold) and was placed 4th in the world.
#3) One in 8 aussies play some sort of professional sport; they are not 'professional commentators' in Rediff.
Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some hard facts:
by vineet sharma on Jun 09, 2009 08:30 PM
u shud live in australia. its ppl like u who dont appreciate what we have. how good a sportsman r u. y dont u join the indian cricket team. maybe ur mouth will win us matches.
Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some hard facts:
by pratik nidhi bhardwaj. on Jun 09, 2009 12:45 PM
good vathula i appriciate your gk.I think OUr Media and Team India supporters dont forget incident of 2003 w/c and 2006 champions trophy thats why they celebrate after australian lose any match.Dont worry T-20 is playing next year,next year we definately win World cup. So Huu haa team Australia aaya Australia.
Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some hard facts:
by vathula on Jun 09, 2009 12:52 PM
Why are you nationalistic to the point where you running away from facts? In my project, we have a few aussies and they were quite happy that India won the tri-series. they appreciated Sachin's good batting and said India was the team that deserved to win.
Re: Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some hard fa
by deewaker pandey on Jun 09, 2009 12:55 PM
ya india ws the team bt here in WC Aus ws the team who did nt played well n dnt deserve to go to 2nd round. accept it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some har
by pratik nidhi bhardwaj. on Jun 09, 2009 12:57 PM
This is luck.If ireland,or scotland come under aus group then he goes to 2nd round.This group is called group of death.Three teams are good and one good team must out from w/c
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some
by deewaker pandey on Jun 09, 2009 01:07 PM
australia is known as more stronger than WI and srilanka. they lost by both the team so its not jst luck only. its bad cricket by australia.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are
by Against Pseudos on Jun 09, 2009 01:46 PM
Pandey:
Yeah.... umpires support saw them post 359/2 in 2003 finals.... I distinctly remember Haydos was caught behind 3 times but the umpire signalled a six.... :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are
by deewaker pandey on Jun 09, 2009 01:13 PM
pseudos, now u hv accepted tht aussis played bad cricket which lead them to be kicked out of the tournament. ofcourse they did nt have umpire support too. poor aussis.
Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some hard facts:
by pratik nidhi bhardwaj. on Jun 09, 2009 12:55 PM
srinivas we are indians and we love our bharat mata so dont give your opinion.In cricket or sports we think Ausies are more efficient then indians.So we support them.
Re: Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some hard fa
by srinivasa g on Jun 09, 2009 12:58 PM
If you are not supporting your country then cannot call your self patriotic period!
Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some hard facts:
by Srinivas Mepula on Jun 09, 2009 01:48 PM
you are 100% true Vathula, but what is your point!?? what do you want to convey ?? Did you hear any time Rugby in INDIA ??? NEVER!! Right Still INDIAN boys (Under 15 or 16 I am not sure)have won the world cup….so what ?? if Australia plays cricket so well....so what if CRICKET is not their top 6 sport....so what if Australia has won 46 or xyz medals???
Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some hard facts:
by deewaker pandey on Jun 09, 2009 12:53 PM
as an indian, i m nt goin 2 appriciate u.its nw downfall of australia cricket. they wll arise again. dnt worry
Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some hard facts:
by vathula on Jun 09, 2009 12:54 PM
Why don't you talk abt Indian cricket- the positives and the negatives. Why are you focused on Australia? Can you tell me
Re: Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some hard fa
by deewaker pandey on Jun 09, 2009 01:00 PM
ya its abt emotions n feeling. Aussis r good team no doubt. bt this time every indian has feeling against them bcoz of something which happened wid indian ppl in australia. its all abt feeling. thts y every indian is happy bcoz australia went out of the tournament. n u know this time no umpire support for them. :) u forgot wht happened in sydeny last time when india went 2 australia. try to find out the reason first.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some har
by vathula on Jun 09, 2009 01:06 PM
Re. the racial attacks: Kevin Ruud, the aussie premier himself apologized and spoke against it. As the 3rd largest income earner (after commodities and tourism) education from overseas students is key for aussie econmic success. They will fix this.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some
by Srinivas Mepula on Jun 09, 2009 01:50 PM
the students from abroad are guest "ATHITHI DEVO BHAVA" at least dont' treat as gods, treat us as humans thaz enough!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some har
by Against Pseudos on Jun 09, 2009 01:07 PM
Pandey:
:-)... . and you can keep crying till your grand children become old about the "sydney incident"..... how come we don't hear any Aussies cribbing about the Kolkata incidents and the horrific umpiring there?.... ;-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some
by deewaker pandey on Jun 09, 2009 01:11 PM
pseudos nothing is happened wid australia in kolkata as wid indian in sydney or in 1999 series( if u remember). its prb wid most of the indians that they dnt hv unity n they try 2 critisize their own person. u r definately among 1 of them.if something is wrong then dnt try to prove it correct widout any reason.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For those who bash Aussies, here are some
by deewaker pandey on Jun 09, 2009 01:15 PM
pseudos which kolkata match, u r talkin abt?? may i know? u mst rewatch all the matches again
My dear friends dont blame every citizen of Australia as Racist becouse our country few peoples raped forieners.Just like you they also blame every indian citizen as rapist.Every man are not wrong so dont behave like our poor electronic media.Wait Kevin rudd govt. taken good steps and results come very soon.
Re: Racisam
by murtuza vapiwala on Jun 09, 2009 12:43 PM
I Think we Indians are the most racist people in the world. We not only discriminate on colour of the skin but also on cast, creed, religion, region, status etc etc. Our names are like Barcode, the moment we say our name the other person starts judging which religion he is, what backgroud he must be etc. Before even I have spoken a word he will have a prejudice. Very sad ...but true. As far as cricket is concerned, it is just a game and Aussies lost it. There is no need to disect it any further...!
You told about indian football team they qualified in world cup in 1951 but not played and australia played and gone to Quarter Final in 2006 world cup and lastly lost against 2006 winner Italy.
Re: Re: Re: Payas Aggarwal.
by deewaker pandey on Jun 09, 2009 12:46 PM
pseudos your stmts reflects in ur name. if u dnt have anything to speak then dont speak.
Re: Re: Payas Aggarwal.
by pratik nidhi bhardwaj. on Jun 09, 2009 12:35 PM
deewakar india also thrashed by bangladesh and sri lanka in World Cup 2007.So if 1983 world champion thrashed like this way then australia is not god of Cricket World.When Mecgrath,Heyden,martin warne present in Aus then Our Poor Electronic media declare Aus team As Avijit Cricket team after winning champion trophy.
Re: Re: Re: Payas Aggarwal.
by deewaker pandey on Jun 09, 2009 12:49 PM
agree bt aussis did nt played up to the mark thts the reason they lost.do u expect lee to gv 56 off 4 overs?ysterday match, the way clarke n hussy ws playing , it ws lookin like tht they r playing test match. they lost bcoz of their own mistake.
Minddddddddd it 2007 World Cup 50-50 Mindddddddddd it 2006 Dlf Series and Champion Trophy when sharad pawar get out from ricky ponting and damyn martin.
Australia lost coz their sole focus was on upcoming Ashes and they did not give the T20 world cup enough importance. Best Luck for Australia team for Next Series.
Re: Re: Re: Pak should WIN
by deewaker pandey on Jun 09, 2009 12:29 PM
ys they mst b bt they did nt played up to the mark. they r out bcoz of their own mistake. i ws expecting them 2 b in 2nd round so tht they could play against india n we could c a gr8 match bt after being beaten by WI it ws apparent that they wll b unable to make 2 2nd round n they could nt make it. pak team nt looks like strong. most of them r less experienced n moreever they r poorest fielding side. they definately dnt deserve it.
It was gr8 seeing australia getting kicked out of the tournament in the first round itself. arrogance and over confidence did them in. They lost to teams which had players who participated in IPL.
Re: bye bye australaia
by Srinivas Mepula on Jun 09, 2009 12:23 PM
It wasn't arrogance nor over confidence did them, but it was wrong team selection. Ponting, Clark and Lee never played this format well I wonder why selectors choosen them for T20 World cup..past records shows Ponting and Clark's average is very less and strike rate is around 110...In media they were talking more on Ashes then T20 world cup. Ben Laughlin such a great T20 bowler wasn't selected in the team!!! some thing is fishy!! he can bowl with all the varations, he bowls fast(140 KMPH), medium (120), slow (100), very slow (80-90), I wonder why he hans't been selected for T20, he has proved in past that batsman cant hit his balls for boundaries, each team have minimum 2 quality spin bowlers, Ausis had non (in first match) and one (that too not a great spinner I say - Natan Haritz)
