Both IPL or ICL will die the cricket soon. Now cricket is just go and hit without seeing the ball and no character, no stamina needd. Even Gully danda player can go and play becaue you dont need any sort of technique to play there. I wonder why the coaches are there in the team.
The ICL was a commercial platform for Zee to challenge BCCI on cricket. That is because Zee lost out on the contracts for tv coverage of domestic games. ICL has been truly defeated by IPL simply because ICL is not a viable model. Prime example is so many leaving it when given a chance to. If you are a company and some employees left you and joined another company will you as a company allow them to work in your company simultaneously. ICL should have pressed for official recognition from the BCCI itself. Rebel leagues was not the answer. Most places Rebel leagues worked before because the boards have not compensated players with enough money as professional. Same cant be said about the BCCI....
Re: Lost Argument
by m r on Jun 03, 2009 02:10 AM
ummm......nijamey .... it would have been interesting to see the arena if ICL had clicked like IPL , alas it didnt ....bad luck to all these dudes who had to return back to Monopolistic BCCI
Re: Lost Argument
by devraj chakraborti on Jun 03, 2009 10:08 AM
People are leaving ICL not because ICL is not a viable model. Its only beacuse IPL is a hit and given a chance anybody would opt for better oppertunities. IPL teams are alraedy cramped with players who are sitting out and earning money as well as getting international recognition. Tell me this the players knew they would be banned before joining ICL and still they did because they are greedy and gave in for the big bucks. If IPL would have started before I doubt how many players would have gone in for the ICL. All these players were not in a position to get national calls and so just wanted to use ICL as a platform and earn money as well. Hats off to Kapil and Subhash that they could convince so many players to give up hope of national selection and join their league. If tomorrow I start my own backyard league and can manage to form 10 teams comprising so many international players and good talent who are ready to risk their career then I sould be given credit. Dont you think so.
Re: Lost Argument
by baski on Jun 03, 2009 09:00 AM
BCCI killed ICL. Why is BCCI the sole custodian of cricket in India. BCCI is a blackmailer organization. If it cared so much about cricket, they should have let more people play.
now the current bcci players vl protest as their place in their respective teams vl b in danger due to return or the ex-players from icl. competition being tough.
BCCI showed its barbaric and Taalibani attitude. It murdered Indian constitution by disallowing Indians to play for India because they were associated with another Cricketing institute.
Same on supporters of BCCI and Indian government to allow goonism of BCCI.
Re: I spit on BCCI
by Bipul Kumar on Jun 03, 2009 10:50 AM
What a joke. ICL didn't pay salary to the players. It didn't even host a tournament this year to save money in recession. They let the players go just because they didn't find the model viable. And you spit on BCCI which hosted IPL even outside India with reduced income.
Re: I spit on BCCI
by Raymond Anthony on Jun 03, 2009 09:01 AM
Get your facts right, ICL accepts that the idea was cricket league is of Mr. Lalit Modi. This shows that Indian Public supports Official and legal game. wait for 2 more years you want find a name called ICL
I have nothing against ICL. But in the hindsight I think ICL missed an opportunity to get official recognition. If they could have accepted the official status for veterans league, then they would have got cream of talented retired cricketers like Ganguly, Kumble, McGrath, Warne, Pollock, Langer, Lara, etc. All these retired cricketers are sellable and marketable. Very soon they will get players like Sachin, Dravid, Jayasuriya, etc.. The list goes on. They would have got good returns for thier investment. But now their future looks bleak with mass exodus.
Re: Re: Missed Oppurtunity for ICL
by Bipul Kumar on Jun 03, 2009 10:52 AM
yes but you should have potential to play at least at the Ranji level and you shouldn't ask money.
Re: Missed Oppurtunity for ICL
by ganessin virappin on Jun 03, 2009 12:06 AM
To add to above point, ICL would not have any limitations on the usage of the Stadiums and facilities of BCCI. Some players who are nearing their end will see ICL an oppurtunity and may take early retirements.
actually this issue has to be looked upon in a wider perspective, one, no doubt being the dadagiri and dirty politics of the BCCI, and secondly, these poor players of ICL who had simply been watching all the glory of IPL and the great bucks earned by those playing in it, they got limited years of playing cricket, and ICL , though a good move, still could never pay them what IPL could, so, for their better future, they did this, i still believe that they all might be with ICL in heart, and would have taken the approval of the great KAPIL, who with a broken and large heart would have allowed them to return them to BCCI...a rich villain!
Re: two sides!
by Bipul Kumar on Jun 03, 2009 10:56 AM
Another disillusioned writes a comment. Dude Zee TV let them go because they had no money to pay them. Players have got no salary and no cricket for months just because Zee TV has other ventures where they are making more money.
Re: Joke of Democracy
by Manish Jain on Jun 03, 2009 12:51 AM
Sports Ministry was first busy counting money from the I.C.L... Now from the I.P.L (BCCI)!! :-)
Although ICL was also started to mint money,the way BCCI has gone about things is oppurtunistic and agressive to say the least.They have killed their competition. Getting no support from either the ICC or other boards was one of the major reasons for the decline of ICL. Out of every 10 people,7 hate the BCCI/IPL because of their oppurtunistic ways.
I believe if india starts losing matches,people would start blaming it on BCCI as their practices have put extra physical exertion on players because of matches every now and then.BCCI should prepare itself for a major backlash from people sooner rather than later.
Also,one surprising thing for me was the fact that members of the boards had share holding in the franchisees. If thats not worth raising eyebrows,what is???????
