They think of Physical injury & what about the mental injury the bowlers from both the sides had to bear previously during this series with scores of 414, 411, 301, 302, 315, 316. Even the 240 run low scoring match was due to srilankan collapse else another 300 score on the cards.
Re: Rubbish
by Ashish Kumar on Dec 27, 2009 05:13 PM
Flat pitches cause physical injury to fast bowlers. That is why many a great fast bowlers have refused to tour India in past.
Re: Re: Rubbish
by Sameer on Dec 27, 2009 05:25 PM
anyways , the reason why quicks hate it here is not bcos of injury. Its the non -responsive tracks. There is no connection between flat tracks and Injury.
Re: Rubbish
by Khiladi Solitary on Dec 27, 2009 05:14 PM
no mental problem for bowlers. because after the introduction of batting powerplay and T20 violence, this score is achievable.
Re: Re: Rubbish
by Rohit on Dec 27, 2009 05:23 PM
to some extent but we should agree that quality bowlers and good fielding and catching would have reduced the targets by 50-60 runs atleast.
I watched the match from the first ball. I don't think the pitch was playing that dangerously. Even Srinath, a very experienced fast bowler, did not think so. But today's cricketers, fed on IPL style pitches, are nothing but "mitti ke sher". And Sangakkara only needed an excuse to avoid extreme humiliation. I am sure even he will admit that none of the five wickets that Sri Lanka lost within a short time were on account of any unseemly behaviour of the pitch. Running away from playing was sheer cowardice. It was like "kheer eaters" refusing to eat "bhutta". The players like Dilshan, Jaisurya and Sahwag wield their willows like mace-without any footwork. They blame the pitches for their lack of batsmanship. I am reminded of an old proverb "natch na ave angan tedha".
Re: Was the pitch so bad?
by Ashish Kumar on Dec 27, 2009 05:04 PM
Anyone who keeps his eyes on the coming ball and does does swing his bat believing in the predictable response of the pitch would have been able to play. I can mention Sunil Gavaskar, Vishwanath and many others in this regard.
Re: Re: Re: Was the pitch so bad?
by Ashish Kumar on Dec 27, 2009 05:33 PM
Gavaskar is no longer a playing batsman. His responsibilities are very different now. But I am sure, if called upon to do so, he would have not have run away from this pitch. he never did so during his playing days.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Was the pitch so bad?
by Sameer on Dec 27, 2009 05:35 PM
Oh wait ... so now Gavaskar's opinion also doesn't count , but you with 0 credibility somehow does ? WOW simply Wow.
Re: Re: Re: Was the pitch so bad?
by Sameer on Dec 27, 2009 05:34 PM
yeah I love this logic, Anyone who agrees with me is on the right side and everyone that opposes my belief is wrong.
Are we to believe that your opinion on the wicket while watching cricket from your vacinity of your home on Tv is more valued than the players / the umpires/ match officials / former cricketeers ?
Yeah , there is a rampant disease called stupidity these days as well
Re: Re: Re: Re: Was the pitch so bad?
by Ashish Kumar on Dec 27, 2009 05:36 PM
You should have heard Srinath also. He was so guarded in condemning the pitch.
Re: Re: Was the pitch so bad?
by Rohit on Dec 27, 2009 05:18 PM
right Ashish just one correction does does needs correction does not in your extension reply.
Re: Was the pitch so bad?
by miviu on Dec 27, 2009 05:21 PM
Bounce on pitch can unpredictable as we had seen during several matches especially in India itself.. but I do not support the idea of playing on Kotla pitch.. if ball is keeping low that's a different matter, but from good length if the balls is reaching wicket-keeper 2 ft above his head, players could be risking themselves. One ball with viscious bounce is enough to spoil career of the batsman. It could have happened to Indian as well... BCCI, Curator should own responsibility for scheduling ODI in this kind of pitch.
Re: Re: Was the pitch so bad?
by Ashish Kumar on Dec 27, 2009 05:28 PM
The ball of Tyagi you referring to, was not a good length ball. And amongst Indian batsmen the only one who is vulnerable on such pitches is Sahwag. I am sure like Dilshan, he would have got out without scoring too much on this pitch. In today's times the art of batsmanship is getting rapidly lost. That is why very ordinary players have begun to compare themselves with Bradman, Gavaskar, Vivian Richards and so on.
look at yourself who bear all transport troubles and chances of getting injured every day in trains, buses, bomb blast, etc yet you go out there for your meagre salary and here only buwaaaaaaaaaaa worth crores.
The Indian cricket team is not best in the world. Proove it playing abroad. Indian cricket board please do not bring disgrace to the country . First flood lights, now unprepared pitch. Shame on players and country .
Re: Indians are not the best , it sham
by Varun on Dec 27, 2009 10:56 PM
why dont you first prove they are not best in the world. And what the heck had this got to do with players ?. Pl think before you write rubbish.
Re: Indians are not the best , it sham
by Jacob on Dec 27, 2009 04:53 PM
Newzealand,England,Westindies we have played and won,Australia was close but we got cheated.Whatelse do they need to prove do you expect a series whitewash ?
how Bradman would have felt in playing Bodyline-Still averaged 55 in that series-without helmet & sundry other guards on fast concrete like (then uncovered) pitches of Australia
Re: IMAGINE
by Ashish Kumar on Dec 27, 2009 04:56 PM
Anyone who keeps his eyes on the coming ball and does does swing his bat believing in the predictable response of the pitch would have been able to play. I can mention Sunil Gavaskar, Vishwanath and many others in this regard.
Re: Re: IMAGINE
by Sameer on Dec 27, 2009 05:28 PM
yeah , i tend to agree... Sachin / Dravid / laxman are the last batch of players that play for pride rather than money.
Everyone jumps on the youngsters bandwagon. Till date I have not seen any sad/long faces when we lose.
I can see the passion in the eyes and faces of the oldies , but not the youngsters
Re: Re: Re: IMAGINE
by Varun on Dec 27, 2009 10:57 PM
you sound like a kid. So we need chickens who weep when we lose ?. No doubt we used to lose so much before.
Sri Lanka seams to have forgotten worldcup semifinals, ( when kambli wept on the ground), we were cheaply bowled and asked the sri lankans to abbonden the match, but they did not listen. Then why should we. We have seen 62/5 many times in intl cricket. But anyways its a loss to the game.
Could have been stop earlier( before 83/5) otherwise should have played as we got all kinds of guard. Past player played without helmet forget about arm, sin, abdomen guard etc. Really upset the audience.
