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pangaliya
Ganguly was a manipulator
by pangaliya on Apr 07, 2009 04:48 PM

Ganguly towards the end of his career (when the runs stopped) - he used to manipulate with his team, just to keep himself in the team. I never liked him, neither his batting nor his captaincy - he was too arrogant.

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vijith ashwin
Last wicket portnership
by vijith ashwin on Apr 03, 2009 02:18 PM

When Maninder joined Vengsarkar, he was on 92. At the end of the partnership, Vengsarkar was 126* and Maninder 6. That means Vengsarkar scored 34 runs and if it is added to maninder's score, it is an atlease 40 runs partnership. How can it be a 38 runs partnership? where is the mistake?

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India
Re: Shameless Vengsarkar
by India on Apr 03, 2009 02:57 PM
KEEP BARKING

DOGS LIKE U BARK AND DO NOTHING





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anaida raza
Ganguly ordinary captain - against minnows and home series wins.
by anaida raza on Apr 02, 2009 06:41 PM  | Hide replies

Ganguly's captaincy record abroad shows ge gas now won any series abroad.Dravid Wadekar, Bedi, Pataudi Gavaskar all have won series abroad

In Pak series won two tests Dravid was captain Dada in one.Here is his record.

in Bangladesh Test Match 2000/01 - 1 matches won & serie win ---- Captain Ganguly
in Zimbabwe Test Series 2001 - 1 matches won & serie drawn --- Captain Ganguly
in Sri Lanka Test Series 2001 - 1 matches won & serie lost ----- Captain Ganguly
in West Indies Test Series 2001/02 - 1 matches won & serie lost ----- Captain Ganguly
in England Test Series 2002 - 1 matches won & serie drawn --- Captain Ganguly
In Australia Test series 2003 -04- 1 matches won & serie Drawn --- Captain Ganguly
in Pakistan Test Series 2003/04 - - 1 matches won & serie win ---- Captain Ganguly 1
in Bangladesh Test Series 2004/05 - 2 matches won & serie win --- Captain Ganguly
in Zimbabwe Test Series 2005/06 - 2 matches won & serie win --- Captain Ganguly


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anaida raza
Re: Ganguly ordinary captain - against minnows and home series wi
by anaida raza on Apr 02, 2009 06:44 PM
Captaincy series wins abroad against quality opposition
Pataudi one series win
Bedi and Wadekar 2 Series wins each against mighty of their times.
Azar Ganguly one each against quality oppositiom

but Ganguly Captaincy only series win gainst PAK abroad was shared so credit is devided between Dravid and Ganguly.
Dhoni and Gavaskar one each against mighty side of their times Australia.
Verdict- Ganguly was not most successful captain as projected by eastern journo and fans. As he captained for much lomger time with support of then Dalmiya. But he could not achieve what Bedi, Wadekar, Dhoni, Gavaskar achieved in shorter duration as captain.


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Abhi s
Re: Re: Ganguly ordinary captain - against minnows and home serie
by Abhi s on Apr 02, 2009 10:52 PM
keep barking
another dog Sameer K will definetly join u

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Sriram Govindarajan
Re: Re: Ganguly ordinary captain - against minnows and home serie
by Sriram Govindarajan on Apr 06, 2009 11:58 AM
yaaawn.....dada has proven his mettle...he is the king...who are you?

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India
IPL politics against Gangu ... like BCCI did with Greg/More/Vengi
by India on Apr 02, 2009 05:49 PM  | Hide replies

IPL politics against Gangu ...
SRK with Buchanan trying same thing with gangu what BCCI tried with Greg/More/& Vengsarker...

Gangu has always come up trumps!!!!!again he wud prove it to SRK

Gangu has always come up trumps!!!!!again he wud prove it to SRK!!!

Captaincy was thrust upon him after Indian team was in dumps after Azhar match fixing episode..in 2000!!

Sachin was running away fron Captaincy.. Gangu was ready to bite the bullet!!!!!!!!

He made a formidable team which went upto final in WC....
His team was first to defeat Pakis in Pak!!!!!!!!

He slapped back on Greg after his come back performance.........

SRK with Buchanna is trying to humiliate him as SRK at heart wants Paki players to dominate in KKR........

SRK would meet same fate as Greg ..

After 26/11 Pakis should be banned from playing in India...

SRK wants pakis in Indian cricket!!!

SRK would also like Dawood to come incricket
..just like Dawood is in Bollywood!!!!!!!!!!

SRK is a Paki supporter at heart



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Abhi s
Re: Re: Re: IPL politics against Gangu ... like BCCI did with Gre
by Abhi s on Apr 02, 2009 10:53 PM
KEEP BARKING
DOGS LIKE U BARK AND DO NOTHING

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Anand
Basic Mistake.
by Anand on Apr 02, 2009 05:20 PM

There can be differing opinions on whether a team can have four skippers. Vengsarkar, however makes a basic mistake: He seems to feel that the four will simultaneously lead the team, whereas Buchanan as well as SRK has clearly said that captaincy might be by rotation, each match might have a different captain, but that there will be only one captain for a match.

Ganguly should get the message and do the needful. Instead, he and his ardent (local) followers seem to have taken up a fight. With whom? SRK owns the team, and hence owns Ganguly. SRK can do what he wants. Ganguly must follow orders.

That is the money power game IPL Twenty20 is!

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Abhi s
challenge
by Abhi s on Apr 02, 2009 02:26 PM  | Hide replies

Anyway its a new challenge to sourav dada
he is known to accept challenges and was able to make 2 fantastic comebacks in 1996 and 2006
well at nearly 37 he has to play the most shortest form of the game that is T20, Where more than pure cricket skill u reqire fitness
IN last IPL dada scored a 93 of 55 balls vs Deccan chargers which shows he can certainly play well in T20 also
but will he be able to do it consistently is the new challenge for sourav ganguly

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Jai Rathore
Re: challenge
by Jai Rathore on Apr 02, 2009 03:04 PM
dada is a dabba cricketer
he only can score againest minnows...
suhh..

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Abhi s
Re: Re: challenge
by Abhi s on Apr 02, 2009 03:15 PM
then who has 18700 runs in INTL cricket
TERA BAAP?

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ROMY
Re: Re: Re: challenge
by ROMY on Apr 02, 2009 03:43 PM
Well Said budy

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tamil dangerman
Re: aiyaaara..... this time chennaaaaiiii will win......
by tamil dangerman on Apr 02, 2009 02:24 PM
very true sir...

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rajesh prajapati
Multiple Captains - An idea worth trying!
by rajesh prajapati on Apr 02, 2009 01:49 PM  | Hide replies

Only an Aussie, who thinks so much about the game creatively could have come out with such an idea - multiple captains for T20. I think it is worth trying in T20, which by itself is an innovation and the game is certainly evolving - so why not the idea of multiple captains. Please don't be dumb like Vengsarkar and think that there are four captains on the field at any given time - there is only one captain for the game, leaving the field open for a different person for the next game in a multi-lateral series like the IPL where there are at least 14 games to be played! There probably would be a lot of incentive as well as pressure on the captain to perform and bring out innnovative changes in field placing, deployment of bowling or batting positions! U never know till you have trid out and if successful, good. If not, throw it out but not before trying it out! U have nothing to loose and everything to gain. Mind you, this suggestion is only for multiple games and not for a bilateral series like India-NZ and certainly not for ODIs and Test Matches.

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Aditya Verma
Re: Multiple Captains - An idea worth trying!
by Aditya Verma on Apr 02, 2009 05:47 PM
HIi

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rajesh prajapati
Re: Re: Multiple Captains - An idea worth trying!
by rajesh prajapati on Apr 02, 2009 03:06 PM
1. As I mentioned earlierm this idea should not be tried in a multi-lateral series - the national team is definately not where such experimentations work! And when Dhoni is around why experiment for the sake of experimentation?
2. The IPL with multiple nationalities and multiple talents to choose from and pay at will is perhaps the ideal format for such an experimentation. As far as national sides are concerned a leader emerges either by design, such as in Australia or SA or by default as in the case of Ganguly and Dhoni! So national sides should not be where such experiments are tried!
3. With 14 games in the IPL for each time there will be a lot of chances for teams to catch up and experiment - so why not?
4. And lastly, I agree that the same could unearth a lot of talents in their own league matches and therefore worth trying in their respective leagues.... however the idea has a better chance to succeed where the so much more talent is available unlike in other leagues!

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