RE:SCG Test announced as unofficial
by Charlie Schembri on Jan 09, 2008 03:55 PM
ha ha ha..if that ever happened then the only team willing to play against india would be the Faroe islands ( and i am assured by a friend that they have a team)
RE:SCG Test announced as unofficial
by Raghu Kumar on Jan 09, 2008 04:45 PM
Charlie..
Australia no doubt is a good team(not a great team by any stretch of imagination) but for you to mock an other team shows the typical australian arrogance...chops!!..I am not surprised at this as this what the world has been getting from australia nor can they expect anything better...As for the WACA test match, I would rather wait for the match to be completed before making ambitious comments about a walkover( after all the so called invincible australian team also lost to bangladesh, not so invincible after all huh!!) Wisely enough..I would refrain from commenting on the outcome of any tests in the future... so much for one of your comments on the "unintelligence" of indians...How intelligent to comment the outcome of a test even before it has happened...
RE:SCG Test announced as unofficial
by champak chaini on Jan 09, 2008 02:38 PM
ya , and the winning streak of 16 test also gone for ponting, i m sure he is more delighted..
RE:SCG Test announced as unofficial
by champak chaini on Jan 09, 2008 02:46 PM
They cant win without cheating... There were time when they were world champions but now things have changed my dear..they are not champions anymore...They destroyed their own prestige on the sake of win.
RE:SCG Test announced as unofficial
by sandy on Jan 09, 2008 05:05 PM
Dear Duncan, We do watch the match and then do the talk. Everybody here is aware of the fact that media creates haywire these days. Anyways for your information. ponting wasn't given out once, then symonds not given out thrice in first innings itself. i'll tell you the score. 1. 30, 2. 48, 3. something 100 .
see what difference it makes in a straight calculation.
then in India's second inning Dravid given out when he wasn't. After him the Ganguly's controversial dismissal.
Thats what I want to bring to your attention. Anyways, its the history now. Lets bet on the third test. Someone said Indians will be out bellow 100 in first innings. I bet you one of the Indian batsmans will score more than that in Perth. You take my word.
RE:SCG Test announced as unofficial
by Manoj Joseph on Jan 09, 2008 03:43 PM
Duncan, Your nationality may not encorage to accept the facts. As it is evident, the umpiring errors were so critical in the result of the match, where as many as 7 decisions went against the Indian team. Then, how do you expect a team to defend even a 500 score? I'm sure even OZs could have done the same thing (complaining against the umpires) in such a scenario. Regarding the Harbhajan issue, nobody here deny the chances of him calling Symonds a "Monkey". However, how the match referee can ban him in the absence of any evidence and just going by the words of the complaining team? Definitely there is something smelling bad!
All accept OZ as the best team in both one dayers and tests (in Twenty20, it is India at present). However, it is a pity that this number one team has to resort to such cheap and unsportsmanlike behaviour on the ground to enforce their dominance... It's even more pity that they still do not show the courage to accept what wrong they did on the ground not showing the will to correct themselves..!! Is it true that OZ's gone mad over the fact that a team has challenged them in their own backyard? Ponting gone unhappy that he Harbhajan is assured of his wicket on most of the occassions?
RE:SCG Test announced as unofficial
by Charlie Schembri on Jan 09, 2008 03:52 PM
Duncan is right. The Aussies are performing at about 75%- this incident has fired them up. With tait back in the team and on a super fast track in perth i would expect the Aussies to win in 3 days. I'm hoping 'honest ricky' wins the toss and puts India in to bat. lets hope that the indians arrive with a PAIR of batting gloves this time.
Though it looks like India have won a moral battle, it seems the real winner is Australia as they must be feeling great as their trick has played well..
I feel it was in Oz's intention to divert the concentration of the Indian team to such controversies, as they were really challenged by India in both the tests, though India lost on both the occasions. With ten days to go for the third test, they know a well-settled Indian Team can upset their marching to records and cause some problems for them. So far, they had one-sided contests (the last two series they played were home series against England (AUS won 5-0) and Srilanka (AUS won 2-0), most of the occasions declaring their innings after scoring heavily or even batting just once in the match.
For me it looked like OZs have ensured that the series will go ahead without posing more challenge to their teams%u2026.. However, since the problems looks sorted out earlier than expected, I hope the Indian team can concentrate more on the task in their hand, that is to play good cricket and at lest level the series!
Surprisingly, there were no talks about the failures of Indian team%u2026. Like the failures of Wasim Jaffer, Rahul Dravid, Yuvraj Singh and MS Dhoni in all the four innings, slow run rate maintained by the team, below average fielding, lack of intensity in the bowling, especially among the pacers, etc. I feel these are the areas the team and coaching staff need to concentrate rather than the attitude of OZ
RE:Saint harbhajan?
by champak chaini on Jan 09, 2008 02:14 PM
Ok we may be its true, but have you seen the video of Ricky pointing showing his finger to give ganguly out towards umpire and he did the same. what it should mean to you? nothing...where is the gentlemanship gone??or you want to say you people are cheater..your own country news paper have said that Ponting is not at all playing with sporting spirit, he wants to make record. Otherwise you have seen the catch he took..i think you are redefining the rule of cricket.
RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Duncan on Jan 09, 2008 02:26 PM
The point here is Harbajan Singh is not the Honest Cricketer everyone is making out to be. He is fooling you big time. He's probably happy about this drama because everyone forgot about his Clown ing Performance with ball and bat in Sydney.
RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by RR on Jan 09, 2008 04:38 PM
ok duncan
its a hard game.things get said in the heat of battle.Every aussie skipper before Punter left it on the field.Kumble pleaded with him to do the same.Why did he break the sacred aussie code of "dobbing"?
This game could have been controlled.australia is by far and away the best cicket team in the world.They only need their own skills and will beat everybody 8 times out of 10.I dont think great australian Golfers,swimmers,athletes,tennis players ever'sledge".why do the cricketers do so..the rot was begun by that great australian batsman greg chappell(who came to haunt us too),when he asked trevor chappell to bowl underarm.Good thing Miller and Bradman are not around.It would have pained them.Pontings team has klet down the great Australian cricketing heritage...
RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Charlie Schembri on Jan 09, 2008 02:26 PM
the whole issue Champak revolves around whether harbhajan did or didn't call Symonds a monkey. The youtube video demonstrates that the man has a foul mouth. I am just fed up with the one-sided comments on this blog site. Most are unintelligent comments, some are OK but nearly all are simply seeing things from an indian perspective. Aussies are very annoyed that the BCCI seems to be hijacking this wonderful game due to their financial strength. Cricket is a tough game, the Aussies are winners-it isn't easy for them when they are challenged and many players have let themselves down in Sydney BUT the big issue is still harbhajan..i really do hope that he didn't say it but his history provides circumstantial evidence that he did. Let's just move on and play cricket in perth.
RE:Saint harbhajan?
by samar sarabhai on Jan 09, 2008 02:32 PM
don't call Indians as unintelligent...this shows nothing but ur own ignorance about the facts of our IQ prowess and ur typical autralian arrogance....won't wok any more darling.
RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Charlie Schembri on Jan 09, 2008 02:46 PM
I think that Duncan and I have hit a raw nerve. We are providing the voice of reason. The initial post was about Harbhajan's swearing against England. That post was removed despite it simply telling people where to view the video of the incident. seems to me like a lot of Indians don't want to face up to the truth. No-one has called Indians unintelligent-some of the best minds in the world are Indians BUT you tend to see things through rose-coloured glasses and support your team despite the facts being that Harbhajan DID make some type of racial slur to Symonds. Australians are not arrogant, they are just very good at most things they do and have a society where equality and decency are paramount.
RE:RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by indira on Jan 09, 2008 03:06 PM
Charlie, You are wrong. We faced up thr truth when India didn't reach the 2nd round of the WC.The public and media criticised them openly.We never supported our team when they played poor cricket and Indian public was the first to condemn them them for it. When you have evrey right to say that Bhajji did make a racial remark as if you yourself were present on the field, we have also every right to believe Sachin, who conducts himself with dignity on and off the field when he says that Bhajji is innocent. Charlie don't get offended for what Iam going to ask. Do you have anythig against Punjabis?
RE:RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Sunil Kumar on Jan 09, 2008 02:55 PM
ponting? is he a gentleman? is he playing gentlemen game? he always needs to taste success at any cost r any harm to the opponents...
RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Raghu Kumar on Jan 09, 2008 03:49 PM
Dear Charlie.. The youtube video might show that the man was foul mouthed...but I can show a hundred videos where australians are... That defintely was not a concrete evidence else the BCCI wouldnt have made such strong demands nor the ICC would have caved in... What we all need is a concrete evidence which is not there
RE:RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Charlie Schembri on Jan 09, 2008 04:11 PM
yeah probably a valid point Raghu. I wonder why the mic wasn't turned on when it is usually on all the time. I can bet that it will be in the on swith for all 3..ooops...2 days of the perth test..hee hee ( lets hope it's a great game)
RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by champak chaini on Jan 09, 2008 02:36 PM
History also shows Mr. Charlie that Ponting is frostrated after loosing to india in 20-20 world cup and again in 20-20 in australia also.And we are the same people who burn our own effigies when we lost to australia in worldcup final. So you can never say that we are taking one's side.The truth is truth.How come umpires' didnot heard and except ricky ponting , who is topping the cheating list( if u go by history , to win a match he can even sell himself), nobody else heard that.Tell me one thing is matthew Hadden who made a statement that he heard that harbhajan said a word starting with M, Is Hadden is uneducated to heard the full word Monkey. The fact is that the ponting force hadden to do so. And what about ur gentleman clark, didnot he knew that he grounded the catch. Learn something from Brain Lara, he will show you what is a true sportman spirit. Ponting just want to break steve waugh record nothing else, and for that he can even cheat his parents.
RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Raghu Kumar on Jan 09, 2008 03:58 PM
wE CAN SAY AS WELL DEAR CHARLIE IS LOOKING FROM AN AUSTRALIAN PERSPECTIVE...dont look at history for evidenceIf history was any thing then australians have a worse really did)cord which makes us believe that harbhajan was provoked into saying something like that ( if he re
RE:Saint harbhajan?
by ramesh david on Jan 09, 2008 02:25 PM
So what gentleman, if these guys r not there where will u go for cabs, fruits and pizzas? Come to India?? Never underestimate service and confuse it with arrogance, Mr. Hypocrite!
RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Charlie Schembri on Jan 09, 2008 02:32 PM
ha ha ha A very good reply Ramesh. I'll will give you that one. p.s Aussies like Indians out here-they are a very 'gentle' people, except when cricket is involved.
RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by samar sarabhai on Jan 09, 2008 02:26 PM
Intelligent ones are in NASA and silicon valley. 24% and 32 % of work force of NASA and silicon valley respectively are Indians. Probably u need to check few fact how many doctorrs , engineers , scientists , academicains work in ur country
RE:RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Duncan on Jan 09, 2008 03:17 PM
"They simply want to enjoy their life daily by boozing, eating and watching sports and nothing professional to show"
Life too short my friend... I cant take all my money in the grave. You should try it sometime. You might like it.
RE:RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Charlie Schembri on Jan 09, 2008 02:37 PM
many indians use Australian universities as stepping stones..unfortunately you have overlooked one small issue, the fact that close to 600 million people in India live in poverty. You would expect that the benefits of globalisation would have helped to ease the rich/poor gap in your country but it hasn't. maybe if a few of the educated I.T Indians returned home and paid taxes then the gap would narrow...actually, its a bit like the gap between the quality of the australian cricket team compared to the Indian cricket team.
RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by indira on Jan 09, 2008 02:34 PM
Charlie, The problem is that all these years the Aussies thought that it was their privilege to abuse their opponents in the name of aggressive anc competitive cricket. Ask Srilankan, Indian,Pakistan and coloured cricketers of Aouth Africa. They started all this abuse on the field and let off scot free all these years with exception of Lehman. when they get it back they become cry baies and demand justice. They also tell that whatever happens on the field stays on the field but when what happens on the field affects them they make noise. Such double standard. This Harbhajan issue is all preplanned. They wanted to take revenge for what happened in India and goaded and incited Bhajji on the field. What provoked him to say what he was supposed to have said (no evidence for what he said) no one knows. The verdict was also based on one team's words against the other.When there is no evidence how can the referee take sides? This again shows that the refree is also as biased as the umpires.
RE:RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Charlie Schembri on Jan 09, 2008 03:14 PM
I wouldn't know a Punjabi from a non-Punjabi Indira. I hope that i haven't offended you. I like all Indians. I just love a good discussion and debate about cricket. My sincerest apologies if i have come across as having something against punjabi's, I know they come from the punjab region of india but that is about all.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by indira on Jan 09, 2008 02:52 PM
Why wouldn't we believe Sachin when he says that Bhajji didn't utter the word? After all he is one cricketer who inspite of being in the game for nearly 2 decades was not invoved in any major controversy. No court gives judgements with out any evidence.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Raghu Kumar on Jan 09, 2008 03:45 PM
Dear Duncan,
When you are proving a case like this, it is not at all the question of beliefs (not definitely of match refree)...It has to be based on concrete evidences not on whom the match refree believes.. If its just beliefs an integrity, then there are one billion indians to what 30 million or so australians ..... So do not try justify what is wrong....You people are the biggest hypocrites in the world which is acknowledged not just by Indians or asians more than half of the people in other countries of the world...So chill and have your shitty fosters...
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by indira on Jan 09, 2008 03:37 PM
Hey !all in this message "Saint Harbhajan" I have found out the reason behind Bhajji's Issue. Ponting no longer wants to be called Bhajjii's bunny and at the same time he wants to get closer to Sachin's record by scoring atleast 2 centuries in this series. So he wants to get rid off Bhajji and found out a way. How is it ?
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Raghu Kumar on Jan 09, 2008 03:52 PM
well...I suggest you go and ask anyone unaustralian who are the sledgers and who play the game within the spirit...you will get the answer you are seeking
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Saint harbhajan?
by Charlie Schembri on Jan 09, 2008 02:55 PM
why have 5 postings been removed from this thread??????? This is simply healthy debate. I am not offended nor would I think that Duncan is offended. Is the moderator here on school work experience???? please put the initial posts back- there was no foul language, just good natured banter between fans of two great cricketing nations...come on moderator...be a sport!
this test may be end in a draw or india win. because of this fight between india and icc umpires may not dare to upheld aussies apeal and may not deney india's. so let us hope for some funny cricket .....!?.
RE:Ailments of Umpires
by Charlie Schembri on Jan 09, 2008 02:10 PM
I think you mean Simon TAUFEL. Tuffnel is Phil, the English spinner. I agree that taufel is a very good umpire but because of silly ICC rules he cannot stand in any series involving Australia. Should we have umpires from independent countries or should we simply choose the best umpires despite their nationality???? It is an interesting debate.
If ever there is a country in the world whose citizens can be easily misled, it is India. In a country addicted to breaking news flashes and ready to accept any stupid commentary, however foolish and cheap it is, as long as it is in good English, this is another ugly hype of the scandal hungry media.
The Australians are every bit justified in their shock of the play of the events by Kumble&co.
Your call "whats the difference between a desperate draw and a loss" will go unnoticed and may even be branded anti-India but it is a true reflection of what has happened.
My only complaint on Ponting here is that his declaration was a bit defensive . There is no way this Indian team ,with Dravid and Jaffer at the top, would go for a win however reachable the target was. Ponting missed a golden opportunity to humble and embarrass the pseudo master players of India this time around.
RE:must read msg
by heroraja on Jan 09, 2008 01:54 PM
wat man ?ponting has delayed the declaration.With those useless and hopelesss umpires ponting can declare even before TEa and close indians.He is sure that umpires will strike as and when he needed.so ponting is perfect in planning and execution.
RE:must read msg
by Why Care on Jan 09, 2008 01:16 PM
Yes, that's why when defeat seemed imminent at 134-6 and 32-2, ponting and his crooks had to seek umpire's intervention and natwarlal-eque behavior to take the game away from india. bravo!
