This is the voice of one billion people, that ban all the Australian crickerters for endorsing any Ads in Indian media as they are doing these things to our fellow Indian crickerters. 1) Sledging on the field 2) Uttering the bad words ,that make our crickerters upset and ultimately loss the matches. 3) Disrespecting our legends like Sachin,Gangluly,Dravid and Kumble.
After doing this how can they make money out of our pockets,Please let this mail reach every to our big heads who decide about these players , that not to allow these things tohappen and they will carry very bad name and even effect the brand performances iteself.
RE:Do not allow these Aussies for Indian Ads
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 14, 2008 04:49 PM
they also make money for India, or do you forget that,
you make money out of australian businesses so should the aussie businesses pull out of India then watch your ecconomy go down the drain. so a ridiculous remark, made without any thought of ramifications it could lead to. so calm down and look at it logically and intelligently.
RE:Do not allow these Aussies for Indian Ads
by Jatin Shah on Jan 14, 2008 08:07 PM
Mr.Kerry, '....should the aussie businesses pull out of India then watch your ecconomy go down the drain"
FYI, The Indian econmy is supported by Inflows from US,Europe, MEast & all NRI who repatriate from all over the world...
Aust. might have invested here but not to a great extent.
Which country other than Indian & China would give you good returns..
Brother,even if aussie pull out of India..It would not be India's Loss but that of Aust.
Further,10 years from now there would be more Indians in Australia & they will run their economy...
RE:Do not allow these Aussies for Indian Ads
by Sam on Jan 15, 2008 05:19 AM
Kerry ... admit you are chuck. Now you have aquired new account and new identity.
India can do much better without Aussie player's Ads. But Aussie player will have to beg in the street if India do not employ them.
RE:Do not allow these Aussies for Indian Ads
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 16, 2008 07:20 AM
sam what are you on you don't make sense,
well then go for it. No aussie cricketers will not be begging cause only a few get endorsements, but have other endorsements other than indian. but like any business it relies on advertisemnet so one needs the other visa versa.
further 10 years down the track India could be in recession with no one buying their products or services, don't think for a minute that indians will be running the ecconomy. what an arrogant self serving attitude. the chip on your shoulder must be weighting you down.
RE:RE:Do not allow these Aussies for Indian Ads
by sivaram chintalapati on Jan 16, 2008 03:05 PM
What? Aussie businesses? I don't think they do anything important for the rest of the world and India to suffer in their absence. Unless of course they run to USA to have some sanctions on India.
RE:Do not allow these Aussies for Indian Ads
by Indian Expatriate on Jan 14, 2008 05:45 PM
if you think, india makes money off aussie business, which business are you talking about? as far as i know, aussie has only tourism, and accountancy as business, apart from kangaroos and cheaters!
RE:Do not allow these Aussies for Indian Ads
by sudheer mahajan on Jan 15, 2008 08:12 PM
let all ausie businesses get the hell out of INDIA ,we will not feel it,but without INDIAN business it would be hard for ausies to talk abt their future,the cricketers would be again be convicts for stealing or hooliganism ...LETS ALL BOYCOT AUSIE GOODS & Companies OR products that have or use ausies for endorsement
Mike Proctor comes from the country that was banned fromICC for stark racism.As they can not do much at home, they join the second most racist country in the world.ICC has appointed him as Match Refree.You can expect nothing better from a traditional Racist.
RE:Cricket cotroversy
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 14, 2008 04:55 PM
then wouldn't proctor be more able to spot racism than you.
you fail to see it was the indian supporters who racially abused symonds when in india, it was harby and sreesanth that also indulged in it.
now put yourself into the recieving end of the racial taunt. would you be sitting there calmly or would you be jumping up and down demanding that your captain and your country do something about it,
RE:Cricket cotroversy
by Sam on Jan 15, 2008 05:23 AM
Kerry (Chuck's bast**d child): What Vipin meant is Mike himself is a racist because he has much more experience on how to be a racist. Whole world knows that the racist aligation against Harbhajan is false.
RE:Cricket cotroversy
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 16, 2008 07:30 AM
sam do you possibly think by calling me a bast**d child it is going to upset me. what a wank**r.
how would you know that the allegation of harbhajan is false. where you there standing next to him.
NO you weren't so you don't know only believe what the media wants you to know. you are a gullible person aren't you.
sam (chuck's Bast**d father) you would be funny if you weren't so sad.
RE:Cricket cotroversy
by Indian Expatriate on Jan 14, 2008 05:48 PM
calling a stupid person by name of any animal, is not considered as racism. It is just the media, that portrays so! aussie media never expected india to expose the cheaters so badly, when they stated the psychological game after the indian series! aussie are famous of talking abusive languages and terming it as sledging on field. they are crying fowl, only because someone has the guts to play the same game with the same rules against them! if you cannot hear the words, stop utterng them. simple as that!
I think Sharad Pawar has suddenly been reminded of his personal interests in maintaining a smooth relationship with CA and ICC. He has therefore suddenly withdrawn his earlier comment and appears to have ditched the Indian team. I hope better sense prevails and he is able to put forward a formidable point. This is a great opportunity to nail the ICC. He should not let it go.
RE:Ponting's integrity
by Mick Smith on Jan 13, 2008 10:35 AM
Adnan, I am only trying to present the view that everyone outside of India is seeing.
I havent abused anyone in here (apart from Suri, who is a sad little sub-human racist bigot), yet eveyone is prepared to abuse me.
I'll take this as a fact that you have no legitimate rebuttal against my arguments, that there is far more evidence against Bhajji then for Bhajji, and all this is just a sad over-reaction and dummy spit.
RE:Ponting's integrity
by anil babladi on Jan 14, 2008 01:38 AM
Hey Mick!! If we manage to draw the perth test without a single wrong decision against us.... mind you single wrong decision against us, would you agree that not only have we stood upto oZ but have fairly beated them twice in a row? You cannot... because you are sure there are bound to be wrond decisions in favor of Oz... so don't bring on the perth test. Now coming to the way people view it outside India, they are viewing it after coming to a wrong conclusion that bajji called Symo a monkey. Mike Procter, a huge racist himself (can be seen from the way he specially targets the asians) has not heard anything or good enough evidence from anyone. Still he went ahead banning bajji, as if, he owns ICC... A lot of Indians are in Oz, if they start behaving like jerks and demanding higher salaries and abuse their jobs, would Oz govt keep them? No. Same is the case here. India is funding the money, Oz for their spirit that they displayed(I donno how and why should I say it also as spirit)do not deserve a penny. Whats worse, they behave as they deserve it. Do Oz have guts to go back and play Ind again in Sydney? They would say no way. Its not just now, since times immemorial, Oz have put their foot in the mouth and many a times it came out the other way. As for Ponting, I wonder if anyone beyond his wife and mother loves him......as a human being.
RE:RE:Ponting's integrity
by Mick Smith on Jan 14, 2008 10:35 AM
You ask if India challanged Oz to a rematch in sydney, I would say bring it on. I dont think the Oz cricket team or and Australian fan would be concerned because the game would be a close result again. You see, the Oz public wants to see good cricket 1st, and then Oz victory if possible 2nd, not victory 1st at any cost as everyone in here wants to believe.
Mike Proctor is not racist. Please stop blaming him for punishing Bhajji. Bhajji was in the wrong and got punished. You need to accpet this in the same way that Oz accepted when Lehmann got punished. There were no recordings of that either remember? but when he was found guilty, everyone accepted that and agreed that he should be punished. Australia did not act childlike and threaten to cancel the tour! Racism is not acceptable and should be punished. The Indian cricket team is not perfect, actually it has the worst record as far as being cited over the last 10 years. Ganguly has been cited more then anyone over the last 10 years. I dont see anyone in here questioning Ganguly's spirit? Why not? Is this not hypocrisy?
As for Ponting, I think if he played for India you guys would love him, because he is a winner and a great batsman. Wouldnt you love a #3 to come in with an average with 60? sure, he has made mistakes, but another living legend of the game, Sachin T has made mistakes too. Dont forget Sachin was found guilty of ball tampering but I'm sure you forgave him for his mistake and still love him?
RE:Ponting's integrity
by Mick Smith on Jan 14, 2008 10:16 AM
Anil, Unfortunately there is never going to be a game of cricket where someone doesnt get a wrong or contentious decision. While I agree in Sydney India got more bad decisions then Aus, remember that bad decisions went against Aus too. There are always going to be bad decisions, because the umpires are always going to make mistakes, as they are human after all.
I remember that test when India beat Australia in India to stop Steve Waugh's team run of consecutive test wins at 16. I think it was 2001. Australia definitely recieved alot of bad decisions on that final day, probabley enough to effect the result of the game, but am I going to claim that Australia deserved to win? No, I'm not, because that is cricket. You need to accept the bad decisions sometimes.
So in Sydney, I wont admit the India deserved to win, because they would of won if they deserved it. Sure, they got some bad decisions, but the team needs to rise above that if they deserve to win. Symonds was out caught behind, but went on to make a century the same way Tendulkar was plumb LBW on 30 runs but went on to make a century. That is cricket. You guys need to accept this and stop blaming everyone else for the loss.
If India can bash out a draw in Perth, I will be very impressed and that will almost be worth a win purely because the conditions there are not suited to the Indian team. The pitch will be very quick and dry and bouncy, very different to the flat and low pitches on the sub-continent
RE:Ponting's integrity
by SUBHAKANT MISHRA on Jan 14, 2008 11:23 AM
Dear Nick, I for one have no issue with umpiring error/biasdness,no issue with aussie players not walking.My problem is how Mike Proctor can believe HAyden and Clarke and not believe Tendulakr,Clarke or Ponting were no where near bhajji or symonds to hear it anyway and as u don't believe the integrety of Tendulakr we don't believe the integrity of Hayden( for me ur Ponting,hayden and symonds may be great players but are no gentelmen,i can give hundreds of examples)Do aussies believe in a justice system where without any tangible evidence u punish ppl? And why symonds have to take the cudgel on behalf of lee? he is not a captain or vice captain although he aspires to be. Don't u think the decison of Mike proctor smacks of Incompetence if not downright racist .How can Mike proctor sometimes back punish Rashid Latif for claiming a ctach when it is grounded and do nothing to Ponting who till now is claimng his catch as legal when the replays and ICC rules clearly indicate it was not a catch.
RE:Ponting's integrity
by Ruchi on Jan 14, 2008 12:12 PM
Guys... These Aussies cricketers have always been bad sports, and horrendous representatives of the game....
India's grtae cricketers like Sachin tendulkar, Sunil Gavasakar have been skilled at their game and dignified personalities both on and off field....
Compare this to Aussie great Glenn Mc Grathh who himslef called Muttaih Muralitharan 'Black Monkey' and Rickey Ponting who alays gets away with over-apppealing and sulking and making faces on the field coz of bias against Asian teams in ICC...
Also most Aussie crickters arent even properly educated...sum of them r uncultered goons in their behaviour....
RE:Ponting's integrity
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 14, 2008 05:06 PM
suri, you a racist and a hypocrite.
and totaly irrelevant you add nothing inteligent nor constructive.
anish also you better get your fact straight because you know nothing about australia at all.
only a portion can claim having forefathers who where convicts the majority of others where free setlers who struggled to survive in an harsh environment.
I could say what could you expect from people who broke little girls backs to make them beggars because they didn't belong to the right caste, you could then call me ignorant, India's history not so rosy, no matter how much you love your country. so racial and ignorant insults doesn't impress any one.
RE:RE:Ponting's integrity
by Sam on Jan 14, 2008 09:50 PM
Kerry, I understand that you do not get insulted because you and your countryman are insult on human race. Please remember Aussie cannot not and will not exist without help of India in future. Please remember Indians are your parent and you cannot say bad words to parents.
RE:RE:RE:Ponting's integrity
by Kerry Hadley on Jan 16, 2008 07:39 AM
well sam if you where my parents I would divorce you and declare myself an orphan.
oh get a life, australia has been surviving without india for most of its life.
why would most aussie worry about insults from a country who own history tells of subjugation, racist behaviour. religious persecution. slavery. so throw insults when your behaviour is exemplory. until then grow up and stop your whining about how everyone is against you. boo hoo I will send you a box of tissues to wipe your snotty nose.
Some rediff mates have strated given him the honorable tag of Mr. Integrity. I think it is a good one. TILL NOW HE HAS NOT ADMITTED EVEN A SINGLE WRONG THING THAT HE DID IN SYDNEY!
ICC HAS TRUNED A BLIND EYE TOWARDS HIM (FOR OBVIOUS REASONS!)
Every body knows that Ponting and Australia have done seious erros and ICC have defended them as he always use to do, but i wonder that why all the other test playing nations (atleast Asian Countries, beacuse they are always on the receiving end in such issues)should be united and take serious action against Australia.
India should not try to prosecute Ponting over the catch he claims, because its a case of "did he really know about the ball being grounded" or "was the catch complete ?" There's a lot of grey there.
Instead India should focus on putting a defamation lawsuit on him, for which he has to be taken to court. The defamation lawsuit should come from Harbhajan's lawyers, where if no evidence is found against Harbhajan in the racism case, it should be argued that Ponting made up this story to remove Harbhajan from the series, and take revenge for how Symonds was trated by the crowds in India.
That he made up this story based on Harbhajan's past history.
And the others providedfalse testimony.
For that Ponting and Symonds should go to jail ! Or at best, they should be fighting a legal case for the better part of their lives !!
If there's no proof against Bhajji (and there isnt so far, looks like), the chances of putting Symonds and Ponting under a defamation lawsuit are very strong indeed.
Harbhajan should sue them !! He will win for sure !! Come'on Bhajji do it, we are behind you !!!
RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by Mick Smith on Jan 12, 2008 08:04 AM
From this I'd take it your not taking the loss very well then S Chandra? Why thats not very sporting of you is it?
Ponting and Symonds should go to jail because Harbajhan is a racist bigot and a filthy hypocrite? That makes no sense....
RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by Ruchi on Jan 14, 2008 01:13 PM
Australian crickters are the uncivilized, racist goons....as is apparent frm their on-field behaviour....
There is no evidence abt Harbhajan uttering nething racist on the field...so we're obviously not going 2 take ur word fr it.....
And the biggest HYPOCRITE IN WORLD CRICKET IS RICKY PONTING!!
Also, even if Harbhajan called Symonds Monkey, I think it was a HUGE INSULT to MONKEY, at being likened to such a dork!! If Symonds has such an inferiority complex abt his skin colour, then y is he living in a predominantly fair skinned country like Aus.....
RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by Hirendra Chatterjee on Jan 14, 2008 12:39 AM
I have read Mick Smiths arguments and I am not surprised nor shocked. What else can you expect from descendents of criminals who were sent to the continent so that they may not disturn the peace in England. The only way of making people like him see reason is through a kick in the ass.
RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by S Chandra on Jan 12, 2008 09:33 AM
No, if you bothered to read the posting before replying to it, (something u obviously didnt do), then you would know that Im not talking about the loss of the cricket match, Im talking about the ban on Harbhajan.
And if u applied yourself a little further, you would see that Im talking about the small little matter of there being NO PROOF WHATSOEVER, that what Symonds and Ponting have told the match refree being true.
In other words, if there is no proof against Harbhajan (someone's word is not good enough in any court of law), its very likely that Ponting and Symonds made up the story, in which case, they should be dragged into a court of law !!
RE:RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by Mick Smith on Jan 12, 2008 12:29 PM
Well, lets look at the evidence for Bhajji: 1.Bhajji said he didnt do it 2.Sachin said he didnt hear it 3.Umpires didn%u2019t hear it
The evidence against Bhajji: 1.Symonds was taunted by Indian crowds during the last tour. The precedent was set 2.Symonds spoke to Bhajji after he allegedly called him a monkey in Mumbai. Bhajji admits the meeting took place, but denies calling him a monkey. There is alleged history 3.Symonds said he did it 4.Hayden said he heard it 5.Clarke said he heard it 6.There is video where Symonds can be seen saying %u201CSo I%u2019m a monkey am I?%u201D 7.There is video where Ponting can be seen saying %u201CThat%u2019s the second time you%u2019ve called him a monkey%u201D, & then adding "there was once in Mumbai" 8.Kumble tried to sort it out on the field suggesting he wanted a cover up
So, if Bhajji didnt do it, then this is a farce that has been prepared over a number of months starting from the Indian tour and now played out in Sydney. Seems a bit farfetched. Or you could say that he did do it and Bhajji is lying to protect himself. Sachin was at the other end of the pitch, and the umpires were swapping, so its plausible that they didn%u2019t hear it. Seems quite a lot more likely.
Proctor had to choose between these 2 scenarios %u2013 the word of 1 man lying to protect himself against the words of 3 men, with video evidence, precedent and a history of abuse supporting them. When you look at it like that you can easily see why B
RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by S Chandra on Jan 13, 2008 12:41 AM
Smith, listen to yourself, The fact that the crowds taunted Symonds has nothing to do with Harbhajan. And where was it proven that Harbhajan even abused him in Mumbai ?? The video evidence of Symonds talking into the TV mike "So, Im a monkey, am I ?", is not proof enough of Harbhjan saying anything. It could well be a setup. Saying something into the TV mike to make it sound like u'r replying to something when in fact ur not. Kumble trying to sort it out on the field - according to Kumble was an indication to Ponting that he has no proof at all, so dont proceed or we will be forced to retaliate.
None of this evidence is "concrete". Its all called "circumstantial".
The only evidence which would hold up in a court of law, is either video or audio evidence of Harbhajan saying it, and a "voice identifation system" which proves that its Harbhajan's voice.
These dont exist in this case, which is why there is no evidence against him !!
People talking (Clark, Hayden) is not considered evidence. Its called witnesses. (in this case it is probably lying under oath, another punishable offence).
There is no proof whatsoever to prosecute Harbhajan !!!
RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by S Chandra on Jan 13, 2008 11:00 AM
For the final time, Im not calling Symonds, Clark or Ponting cheaters for what they did in the match. Of course we all saw what they did.
Im calling them liars for brining a made up charge against Harbhajan. ( I think you have a hard time understanding English .. lol )
Like I said I dont talk to ignorant people.
Educate yourself about the embarresment which is Australian cricket and take a look at your own public which believes that your team doesnt play the game in the spirit of the game.
50% of Australians think that Ponting's team doesnt play the game in the right spirit.
I will be laughing myself to sleep at how ignorant u truly are. (as I am right now)
Do yourself a favour and educate yourself about the history of your cricket, before making yourself more of a laughing stock in this forum ! Best of luck for that ! LOL
RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by S Chandra on Jan 13, 2008 09:48 AM
Hahaha, try and step outside that ridiculous ignorant island of yours and ask the world, which country has the biggest history of racism in world cricket, and the unanimous answer from every quarter from England, to NZ, to SriLanka to Pakistan, to the South Pole, and the answer is unanimous to a person - AUSTRALIA !!
Instances of racism in Australian cricket go back to before one can even remember !!
Darren Lehmann calling Jayasuriya "black c*nt" McGrath spitting on Sarwan in Guyana Dean Jones calling Hashim Amla "terorist" Warne racially taunting Ntini Black SA players being called "Kafers" Ranatunga telling Murali not to tour Aus, racism being 1 factor .. Mahanama writing about racism from Aus in his book ..
I mean.. .the list just goes on .. and on .. and on ...
Mike Procter will be forced to admit that he made the decision on a whim, because he did !! There is no evidence against Harbhajan !
And yes, I stand by what I said - watching 1 documentary on Channel 9 doesnt make u an expert on racism ! If India and Sri Lanka were to make documentaries of how much racist abuse they have copped from Australian players and crowds over the decades, there would be enough footage to make prime time TV for years !! LOL
The "sad" part is that u just like the Australians like to be racist, when it suits u, but when someone slaps u back, u dont like it.
Educate yourself about racism in Australian cricket before commenting here !!
RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by S Chandra on Jan 13, 2008 08:15 AM
Well, thats obviously what you would say, since you dont have the guts to actually reply to the posting, which is not about the game !!
Just like all the other Australians on this forum, you seem to be living in this delusional world, that just because u think someone is guilty, that he must be.
And of course, he's Indian and you're Australian, so he must be wrong !! Well, you've god a head turned upside down in a world of shit, Im afraid "mate" !
The bottomline is words are not proof.
And yes, this is a tribunal, but its also a civil court. Do your civics lessons first.
The bottomline is that there is no credible evidence to claim that what the Australians are saying is true !!! Period !!!
Doesnt matter if the whole of Australia thinks Harbhajan is racist, just thinking so, doesnt make it true, u pea-brained idiot !!!
Australia, in all its ignorance, can claim what it likes. The fact is that the biggest and worst incidents of racism have happened in Australian cricket !!! If the Indian team of the present were to present evidence of racism in Australian cricket to the ICC, the documents wouldnt fit through the door of the match refree's room !!!
India doesnt have a history of racism in its cricket, u bleeding moron !! And watching one documentary on Channel nine on Symonds, doesnt make u an expert on racism !!
Look at history, look at the past, learn something about Australia and then come and comment here !!! Ignorant idiot.
RE:RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by S Chandra on Jan 13, 2008 10:45 AM
I'll leave u with a couple of thoughts !
Why didnt Mahanama mention any team or racism in his book, England, SA, NZ. Why only Australia ?
And secondly if its the Indian team or the Pakistani team who had complained collectively that Ricky Ponting had said something racist, and without any concrete evidence, if the match refree decided to ban Ponting for racism, just based on what the Indian's said -
Would you be jumping up and down to get the proof that he said it ?
Or would the match refrees decision be good enough for you ? LOL ...
U know the answer and I know what ur going to say, but nevermind.
Please learn about the history of Australian cricket. C ya.
RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by Mick Smith on Jan 13, 2008 09:22 AM
Look at you go! with a 5 star dummy spit like that combined with that many profanities, youve got the moral fortitude to play cricket for India!
I especially like the way you abused me but didnt really address any points I made. Very mature. You didnt have to do that-you could have just said "yes, the whole world is against me and its just not fair!"
And I really love this bit - "yes, this is a tribunal, but its also a civil court". Errrr, no its not. It IS ONLY a tribunal, NOT ALSO a civil court, in fact its NOT A COURT of any kind. There is no magistrate. There is no prosecutor. There is only the match referee who has to decide who did what and punish accordingly. He decided between Bhajji's abusive history and all the other factors that he did it.
You say "he's Indian and you're Australian, so he must be wrong". I didnt say that, nor did I even infer it. I went through all the evidence and showed that it is more then Symond's word verses Bhajji's word. There is far more then that, including video of Symonds and Ponting challanging Bhajji for calling him a monkey. Thats pretty good evidence, and Mike Proctor agrees with me, not you.
You say all the worst acts of racism have been Australians???? What a load of garbage! All I have to do is think back a couple months of thousands and thousands of Indians making monkey gestures at Symonds to know that you & your type are disgusting.
Simply put, you & the Indian cricket team are sad little hypocrites.
RE:RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by Mick Smith on Jan 13, 2008 10:49 AM
You still didnt answer my question.
You call Symonds or Clarke a Liar and Cheater and Racist because they didnt walk after nicking the ball? Are you trying to tell me that an Indian cricketer has never nicked the ball through to the keeper and not walked? By your definition, does that make him a liar and a cheat and a racist?
But that is ok S Chandra, the fact that you have stopped answering my questions I think is proof enough for my point. As a sign of good sportsmanship, tonight a will mail over to you a few boxes of tissues so you can wipe away your tears before going to bed. Doesnt that sound nice.... :)
RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by S Chandra on Jan 13, 2008 10:36 AM
No point talking to people who dont know all the facts. Google for everything that I said, and you will see what is fact and what is fiction !
All of the incidents I have mentioned were reported by Australian media, not Indian or Pakistani media.
And we are not talking about "cheating", we are talking about "racism"
For your information, the "terorist" comment is racist, because he wouldnt have said it to someone with a beard, not from a sub-continental origin. The comment was directed to his back-ground !!
India has been hosting series with WI, South Africa, NZ, England, Pakistan, SL for decades now, and before this "Symonds" thing, there hasnt been a single incident involving race in Indian cricket !
No point talking to someone who doesnt know all the facts.
RE:RE:RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by Mick Smith on Jan 13, 2008 11:25 AM
You know what is embarrassing S Chandra? trying to hold the cricket world to ransom because you lost! threatening to cancel a tour because you lost! demanding the change of umpires because you lost!
I was really looking forward to this tour before it started, because I thought India would be a good challange. Unfortunatly I was wrong.
I suppose I will have to wait until Aus tour India later this year to see if you can play any better at home? but I doubt it. I think we will have to play South Africa in South Africa before we lose a test.
RE:RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by Mick Smith on Jan 13, 2008 11:25 AM
you know what is embarrassing S Chandra? trying to hold the cricket world to ransom because you lost! threatening to cancel a tour because you lost!
I was really looking forward to this tour before it started, because I thought India would be a good challange. Unfortunatly I was wrong.
I suppose I will have to wait until Aus tour India later this year to see if you can play any better at home? but I doubt it. I think we will have to play South Africa in South Africa before we lose a test.
RE:RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by Mick Smith on Jan 13, 2008 07:26 AM
I didnt say he did abuse him (although personally I wouldnt trust that lying creep as far as I could throw him) in Mumbai, but that he allegedly did. Whether he did or not was not my point as the allegation alone creates history and suspicion. This in turn leads to precedent, which is a very powerful piece of evidence, whether you want to admit it or not.
You seem to think that the tribunal runs like a court of law, with admissible evidence and non-admissible evidence. It doesnt. It is a tribunal, not a court. Mike Proctor had two versions of events to choose from, one where the one man with a history of abuse and poor sportsmanship could be lying to protect himself, or one where a entire team created a history and precedent and set him up over a number of months only to set the trap in Sydney.
So you can see, one very likely scenario, and one utterly ridiculous scenario. That Australia have framed him is pretty small minded, but of course that is what you would believe because you are convinced the whole world is against you, and cant face the fact that you lost a game of cricket.
RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by on Jan 14, 2008 12:14 AM
Dear Mick,
Let me talk practical. on what basis are you saying Bhajji has said. Is there any Video /Audio Evidence?
Seccondly you are asking us to go on CLarke's word, Pointing and Hayden's word, whose intergity and honestly is questionable by their actions in the game.
It is just an act of revenge from Australian team for what happened in Inda, which i am not jsutifying, but please remember that Australian team was treated the way it was only for their arrogant attitude, if they has been well behaved, then those incident would not have happened.
Finally, Australian Sport has a rich link in Racisim and a poll done in Australia shows that racisim exist in all forms of Australian Sport, so it is farcial to complaint against India. Please remember that a compliant can be acted upon evidence and specially when it involves sportsmen representing their country. On top of all this how do you expect us to take word of people like pointing and clarke who has no intergity and which is proved through clear video.
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by Ramesh T on Jan 13, 2008 11:09 AM
Smith, you should be given an award for inventing the most insidious lie. You are also a special category animal that can 'hear' a conversation that happens over several hundred feet, in the midst of a noisy crowd! All your 'claims' in the above message are based on hearsay and as much reliable as you are as a person. Why don't you just shut up and get lost? I couldn't have expected anything better from someone coming from a country of convicts.
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by Kerry Hadley on Jan 16, 2008 07:53 AM
the above posts other than mikes, lacks rational and logical thought.
a sign that usually means that the argument is moot and you conceed the point that mike makes.
good on you mike, the only rational person here. when you resort to an insult means you have no rational point of view. so little boys knock the chip off the shoulder and stop seeing yourselves the victims you are just as guilty of the same ridiculous statements.
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by Adnan on Jan 12, 2008 08:41 PM
"The evidence against Bhajji: 1.Symonds was taunted by Indian crowds during the last tour. The precedent was set 2.Symonds spoke to Bhajji after he allegedly called him a monkey in Mumbai. Bhajji admits the meeting took place, but denies calling him a monkey. There is alleged history"
WHO EVER TOLD YOU THAT HISTORY = EVIDENCE
...MR. MIKE SMITH YOU ARE TALKING LIKE MIKE PROCTOR!
UMPIRES "DID NOT HEAR ANYTHING" AND OBVIOUSLY YOU EXPECT THE AUSSIES TO TESTIFY AGAINST HARBHAJAN!
AND WHY NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT SYMONDS SAID? NOW WAY IS HE INNOCENT!
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by Mick Smith on Jan 13, 2008 07:01 AM
Adnan, history and precedent are very powerful peices of evidence. It turns the question from "could he have done it", to "did he do it again"? If he has done it before, then its not a question of whether he is capable, but whether he was dumb enough to do it twice. And it seems he is dumb enough.
Of course I am talking like Mike Proctor, as I am talking rational, like Mike Proctor. Rational. You are talking like an emotive hypocrite.
And it doesnt matter what Symonds said, as it wasnt racist or technically inflammatory. So it is irrelevant.
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by suri nz on Jan 13, 2008 02:46 AM
Well, lets look at the evidence for Bhajji: 1.Bhajji said he didnt do it 2.Sachin said he didnt hear it 3.Umpires didn%u2019t hear it 4.dravid didnt hear it 5.Laxman didnt hear it 6.kumble didnt hear it 7.yuvi didnt hear it 8.Ganguly didnt hear it 9.All indian( more than aus monkeys) didnt hear it
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by vijay on Jan 12, 2008 10:37 PM
well only thing i can say Mr Smith that you do not have rationality for judgment.For yours information Symonds is proven liar from the past.And clark has proved himself to be big liar from this test.And do not ask about Ponting, he is biggest liar who is still talking about hastory.And for your kind information batsmen and umpires ARE MOST closer ,and if Sachin and umpires have not seen anything its very much likely that harbhajan is honest.You got to providew solid evidence ,vague thing are not accepted anywhere
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by Adnan on Jan 13, 2008 09:42 AM
S Chandra and Suri nz....I think we all three have enough evidence that this Mike...fellow is the biggest HYPOCRITE. When he said "What symonds said is irrelavant" his double standards are too obvious to miss!
HE IS LIKE A MAN PRETENDING TO SLEEP! YOU CAN NEVER WAKE HIM UP!
RE:Instead of prosecuting Ponting over the catch, file a lawsuit against him !!
by Adnan on Jan 13, 2008 09:51 AM
Mike Smith pooree tarah se bawala ho gaya hai!!!!
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by Mick Smith on Jan 13, 2008 10:42 AM
Surely if what Symonds said to Harbajhan was racist or abusive someone would said something regarding this. So, if what Symonds said was not racist or abusive, how and why is it relevent? And if it is not relevent, how am I a hypocrite?
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by Kerry Hadley on Jan 16, 2008 08:01 AM
well you have proved the point of why harbhajan is guilty of racism,
but keep using racism to try and justify your actions proves why you should be reported for racism.
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by Mick Smith on Jan 13, 2008 11:39 AM
hey suri, it doesnt matter how many times you report me for calling you racist, your still racist!
to quote one of my favourite authors, you have the integrity of a hyena and the style of a poison toad
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by vipin mehrotra on Jan 13, 2008 08:41 PM
I think calling Symonds as monkey imparts too much respectibility to him.He seems to be son of PIG like you Mr Mick-- mouse
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by vipin mehrotra on Jan 13, 2008 08:48 PM
yes we are racist and belong to human race where as your and Symonds belong to Pig race..
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by Mick Smith on Jan 14, 2008 10:40 AM
hehehe. nice going vipin, you prove my point perfectly.
You dont do your fellow countryman many favours talking like that! you sound rather foolish!
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by anil babladi on Jan 14, 2008 01:52 AM
Hey Mick, I think you are going overboard on this. Everyone likes their country and you would be forgiven for "thinking" that Oz are fair. But they aint. You said one "denzel washinton" liner "history and precedent are very powerful peices of evidence." Sorry but mite, Oz used to be a dumping ground for Cons, does it make these present Oz all cons? By your theory, it makes it true right? I am not agreeing but the fact that you have jumped to call your own countrymen this way says it all, that we are not racist. Also you said "you have the integrity of a hyena and the style of a poison toad", well, still it is not even 1% dangerous than a spoilt brat like Ricky Ponting's attitude. Time and again videos have proved that Oz have racially abused the asians (considering if you feel monkey is racism for you then Bastard is for us). Further animals are not a race. Since they are animals they are not considered a race. Oz have nothing been cry babies. Why? Bcoz they are scared to ban India. Simple... and straight. Racism might have started any place... but it is right now in Oz. Oz are ruing every minute now for their undoings, so stop being one of the racist and put a lid on this issue. You aint gonna understand, coz you just give your side of answers for unasked questions. In other words, Oz style. Good days for Oz cricket is coming, keep watching.
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by Mick Smith on Jan 13, 2008 10:30 AM
Report me again hey Suri? Thats twice now!
Who would have thought the bringer of truth so offensive!!!!!
