IPL will hire all good players outside India..for instance the best. Pull out Kevin Pietersen, Andrew Flintoff out of England. Ponting, Hayden, Symonds, Lee, Clark, Hussey out of Australia. Sangakara, Vaas and Muralitharan out of Srilanka. The best from the rest as well. There would be no international cricket. Everyone can watch IPL. Dooms day for cricket is not far away.
RE:IPL will kill cricket outside India
by Sarith Sircar on Feb 13, 2008 03:56 PM
Its ok yaar.... atleast we dont have to sit for 5 days for draw test match. And for other full day ODIs. Atleast now all will be short T20 matches and we can go back to work in 3-4 hours.
why more people wathc EPL matches in stadium is because each team represent some place or city like LONDON,Manchester, Liverpool and they see pride in their team winning. In EPL the clubs were formed naturally by players in that area .But in the case of IPL the teams are formed artificially by businessman and BCCI .Indians dont take pride in belonging to a particular city .They will rather support their state.If IPL was made including state teams rather than cities it would have generated interest with the quality of cricket improving by foreign players entry
RE:DONT COMPARE IPL WITH EPL
by Raman Chugh on Feb 13, 2008 03:15 PM
Your suggestion for making state teams is rather good as that will make the people of the entire state have pride in their team. However, even EPL has most foreign players than local. Infact teams like Arsenal have more foreign players from other contries than English Players. EPL is also a business & thats the reason the teams have been bought now by americans/russians (Man U, Chelsea & Liverpool)
this just proves that money matters much more than playing for one's own county/country. let me clarify that this is perfectly acceptable. i am not against this & if i were a cricketer, i too would have done the same...the only point i want to make is that all cricketers should stop being hypocritical and saying that playing for country is the ultimate honour etc.etc...money talks baby!!!
RE:money talks!!
by Sarith Sircar on Feb 13, 2008 03:59 PM
I agree. I wish some businessman brings some exhibition matches of teams from EPL into india. this will proove a major boost for football... and then someone should start IFPL (Indian Football Premiere League). That is the only way football in India will improve.
See BCCI is a privae body. Will BCCI choose players from IPL ( even players from foreginers also) to represent BCCI team - I mean Indian Team. This is legally allowed as per the consittution of BCCI. We can see gilchrist representing India and playing agains Aussies when they tour India
RE:IPL
by monty on Feb 13, 2008 02:53 PM
You are right as its all about money only. If player getting good money from other country then I think they will kick their country to gain money.
RE:IPL
by Imran Ganj on Feb 13, 2008 02:57 PM
The ICC has a law that a player needs to be a resident of a country for at least 4 years to represent that country. So yes, when Gilchrist is 40 (assuming that he lives in India) he can play for India. Heard of Kevin Pieterson mate?? He left South Africa and lived in UK for a considerable time until he was eligible to play for England. Get it Duckhead..?kCbcm
RE:IPL
by HR Mumbai on Feb 13, 2008 02:59 PM
Agreed BCCI is a private body but there should certainly be condition saying only Indian national can reprepsent the team...
RE:RE:IPL
by Sarith Sircar on Feb 13, 2008 04:06 PM
Abhe mamu.... we all get so excited and want Baichung Bhutia to go to european club teams, or Narain K to drive with Ferrari or McLaren. What if they say the same thing that only their country nationals can participate???? We need to look at things from both sides... not expect others to take us... but we wont take outsiders. The same ghatti MNS mentality u have. Its a sports club... looking to make profits.... and however they do it... let them do it. If you don't like it... go n sleep.
RE:IPL
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Feb 13, 2008 03:06 PM
gilchrist can get all in 1 day showing the proof that he is residing here for the last 20 years. All ISI agents gets them today, why not Gilchrist?
Certainly IPL is going to land in big choas..It will bring down the standard of cricket from 5-day cricket to 3 hour cricket..
I dont see there is much intrest between indian public about any regional city playing against another regional city.If that would have been the case then DOMESTIC ONE DAY TOURNAMENT in INDIA would have developed.so IPL has never learnt the heart of indians..just have to feel for the bussiness persons for investing this big lump sum in this project..
Even matches between rest of world Vs aussies ,or asia VS africa or whatv er the case can be will never be attacted by indian public even if it is india VS rest of the world..
Only matches between india and other good cricketing mation will be intresting and not these city matches..
RE:Flop of the century..IPL..
by Sarith Sircar on Feb 13, 2008 04:08 PM
James, I think its better to watch 3 hours cricket with sure result... than to sit and wait 5 days for draw match.
RE:Will it be successful?
by james on Feb 13, 2008 03:01 PM
DOnt compare football to cricket or india to europe.. If that would have been the case they would have been a good support for rest of world VS india matches or australia Vs rest of world or asia VS afrika..
Or atleast there should be some intrest when a one day match is played between any domestic team in india..But no one cared to see those matches or atleast spend time to see the scores..
It clear IPL is just a hype..u will also know it very soon..
RE:RE:Will it be successful?
by james on Feb 13, 2008 02:52 PM
I dont care who wins or who loses.Its after all my fellow indians playing with some guys.whoever wins at the end of the end makes no difference for me..
Similar situation exists in football. Has it got destroyed ? Rather it has grown even more in all countries, including India now. So let cricket also grow now after it has been played only in 8 countries for the last one hundred years. Let every gully boy also get a chance to earn in sport at various levels, instead of just loitering in the streets.
If this happens, then IPL is surely going to threaten International Cricket and destroy the game as more cricketers will follow suit.....what will happen to the national cricket bodies and the quality of cricket matches between countries?
In contrast ICL is designed to develop the game rather than destroy it.....surely I would rather prefer to back ICL than IPL.....
Can you imagine that each player would be carrying a price tag (fixed by the admen) who would place higher price for guys contracted with them than with the unpopular ones....while players are bid, there will remain some who will not be sought for....what happens to their morale and dignity....
This is not the right way to select teams....players are not commodities who can be fixed a price tag.....I think Lalit Modi has gone too far by doing such things.....and finally remember that money corrupts most of them.....so where is the guarantee of pure unbiased cricket????
RE:threat to international cricket
by rajendra agrawal on Feb 13, 2008 02:28 PM
Similar situation exists in football. Has it got destroyed ? Rather it has grown even more in all countries, including India now. So let cricket also grow now after it has been played only in 8 countries for the last one hundred years. Let every gully boy also get a chance to earn in sport at various levels, instead of just loitering in the streets.
RE:threat to international cricket
by rajendra agrawal on Feb 13, 2008 02:30 PM
Similar situation exists in football. Has it got destroyed ? Rather it has grown even more in all countries, including India now. So let cricket also grow now after it has been played only in 8 countries for the last one hundred years. Let every gully boy also get a chance to earn in sport at various levels, instead of just loitering in the streets.
RE:threat to international cricket
by Narayanan Sethuraman on Feb 13, 2008 02:33 PM
but in football players do not hv to retire prematurely to participate in leagues....and also world cup soccer (played between countries) is still supreme...
RE:threat to international cricket
by Kaushik Basu on Feb 13, 2008 02:44 PM
no its not...jst look at the quality of football in the EPL or La Liga...and watch world cup...club football quality is much much higher...and it hasnt destroyed football..it has improved it.....and talking of passions...watch any game in EPL, La Liga, Bundes Liga, Serie A...u will know wat passion means
RE:threat to international cricket
by Narayanan Sethuraman on Feb 13, 2008 02:48 PM
that is because the players playing in the league matches and international matches are same.....whereas all the big names will retire fm their respective national boards and play only in league matches....so quality of internation cricket will suffer?????
RE:threat to international cricket
by Kaushik Basu on Feb 13, 2008 02:57 PM
yes..nobody wants that....it shldnt clash with international cricket...but having said that...look at the performances of some footballers for their clubs and countires...u will know...i always wonder why someone like Thierry Henry in a french shirt is not even 25% of the player in arsenal shirt(and now in barca shirt)....roy keane didnt play in 2002 world cup and flew back from japan in manchester united private jet.
RE:threat to international cricket
by joe v on Feb 13, 2008 02:28 PM
and quite right at that. Why protect something thet's going to eventually fail?? If International cricket is not as intresting as League cricket, then its going to go sometime. Isnt that just Logic? Twenty twenty format is the best one at the moment - who watches Test now a days? Life is survival of the fittest format Narayanan!
RE:RE:threat to international cricket
by Narayanan Sethuraman on Feb 13, 2008 02:34 PM
nothing to beat the game between 2 countries....as there is more passion involved when u don the nation colours.....club cricket can never match it....how much ever money you bring in.....
