How indians lost a game ---- They would have been put up a target around 360 the situ was like that but they they scored only 320..When sachin got out our run rate was around 7 then it come down by 6.2
Younis played a stellar knock in Pakistan's series-levelling win over India. Though Younis and Misbah left while trying to accelerate, it was Afridi's charming cameo that ensured there are no further hiccups in reaching the target. India would rue the fact that they conceded too many extras, especially the wides. Indian new ball bowlers have hardly made an impression in the matches held so far. Though Ganguly bowled well in the middle, Indian fans could see that bowling at the death has become a cause for the country's constant concern. On Thursday, it was batting too . . We should have finished with a score close to 350, considering the fact that we were 260/6 at the end of the 40th over. It was hard hitting by Harbhajan down the order, that helped India get 321/9 in 50 overs. Earlier, after a tentative start, Sachin played a characteristic innings before his sojourn ended when he steered Gul into Akmal's gloves. Sachin's fate "blocked" his feat as this is the 3rd time he is getting out on 99 in 2007. In addition to this, five times in 5 months and 7 times in 2007, he has got out in nervous nineties; 22 career dismissals in the 90s.
it was selfish act by younis khan to accept MOM.it should be given to dhoni er.DHOBI.because how on earth u can ask your bowler to bowl yorkers with mid on and fine leg up.this guy really sucks man.he should have been named captain of the test team as well.it would have been graet fun to see how poor dhobi perform against aussies. solution: reinstate the WALL.we could not post bigger score despite the heroics by 10dulkar because the 4 fools in the middle dont know how to build an innings.thats what happen when u have 2 opener and one slogger in ur middleorder.
RE:MAN OF THE MATCH:DHONI
by Raam on Nov 09, 2007 11:16 AM
Very well said friend. Dhoni has exposed in right time how immature he is. Dhoni would have been disastorous if chosen for tests as captain. He thought there is no harm in giving singles to every ball and occasional double. He made Pakistan's victory possible by keeping fielders in the deep and leaving prime filding places vacant. He actually captained Pakistan yesterday to make their win possible. He certainly desrved MOM award.
RE:MAN OF THE MATCH:DHONI
by GK on Nov 09, 2007 11:40 AM
My Solution - Let Gambhir and Uthappa do the opening and let then destroy thge opposition's bowling attack..shift Sachin and Sorav in middle order to cash in on the good start...and yes RAHUL DRAVID on no 3 ...come what may...
RE:MAN OF THE MATCH:DHONI
by Mark roy on Nov 09, 2007 12:51 PM
ManoJ....When Dhooni was gambling in 20/20 with bowler and won that time u didnt notice and today he failed bucz oppostion played well..
I am not a Dada fan but one must give him credit for the way he bowled.Took the pace off and kept a great line.The regular bowlers did not do that.This points to the need of medium pacers on a wicket where there is no spin.The future consists of grooming guys like Pankaj Singh and Praveen Kumat to bowl and bat.Irfan is also in this category.Yo Mahesh not yet there.Let them compete for 2 spots.The team gets more balanced then and the captain has optons on a day when the regular bowlers are having an off day.
RE:Re:Give credit to Ganguly
by GK on Nov 09, 2007 11:36 AM
Boss I wish Indian team members would be selected on the basis of "playing for places"...but thats not the case...BCCI and selectors are idiots..selecting 15 of the top cricketers and then adjusting them in playing 11...as a result..5 genuine openers playing in a match and most dynamic ones playing at no. 3 (gambhir)and no 7 (uthappa)..God on this diwali give some sanity to selectors!
Let's for once appreciate the efforts of Pak team in winning the match despite that India did do well in the batting. It was not a small score at all. Kudos to Younis, Misbah and Afridi for putting up a good fight.
Come to think of it, Pak fielding was as bad as India. Their bowling too as bad as India. It was only the batmen on both sides who did well.
As for India is concerned, time and again it has been proved that we bowl hopelessly in the slog overs. The bowlers merrily keep bowling on all sides without even understanding how the field has been set. The bodily language of the fielders just indicated they were lazy bones.
Blame the Indian bowlers for yesterday's failure and ofcourse the great indian fielding prowess!
Bringing back Agarkar and anybody else won't do any good. Every player has to use his what is inside his head as well when framing a challenge. And we know where the indian brains are when it comes to a crunch!
Dhoni shrugged of the loss and said it is one of those things.Sorry but that is not true.This was a match in the bag which was lost and the captain has to take the blame.Many mistakes are seen.Dropping a bowler for a batsman was a huge mistake.If Ganguly had gone for runs Dhoni would have looked like a fool.Ganguly bowled well and saved Dhoni. Secondly the batting of Dhoni,Yuvraj,Uthappa,Irfan and Sehwag in the middle overs in a good position left us 30 runs short.This was the real reason.Dhoni looks cool when he says bowlers bowled badly.The real reason was middle overs batting by India.These days on flat pitches you can expect many teams to get 100 runs in the last 10 overs. The bowling at the death was horrible.Zaheer looks jaded and miserable.Give him a break.R.P was not bad but hat to learn to bowl at the death.There seems to be a lack of a game plan for the death.Hit and run approach. Dhoni's captaincy has to be blamed for this loss.
RE:Re:The loss and shrug
by Raman on Nov 09, 2007 11:00 AM
Dhoni has to mature still. It was ridiculous to drop Murali Karthik and bring Sehwag. What the hell did he do? Even Murali wd have knocked off those 20 odd that he made. Success has gone to Dhoni's head. Imagine 27.3 overs and 186 and team ended up at 321 (thanx to harbhajan) and the much hyped so called youngsters buckled and probably Zaheer and Pathan forgot that they were to bowl for India. They gave loose balls in slog overs to help Afridi. Shameful...absolutely shameful that even 321 our bowlers cdnt defend and we talk of seniors to be left out. This is the performance of youngsters....see!!!!!!!
RE:Re:The loss and shrug
by Raam on Nov 09, 2007 11:21 AM
Sehwag was taken as reserve opener. how can he replace Murali Karthik in the team. If you want to include a player in Karthik's place they should have brought in Praveen Kumar who is an allrounder. In today's form even Murali would have batted better than Sehwag!
RE:Re:The loss and shrug
by S Chandra on Nov 09, 2007 01:00 PM
Ya many mistakes in the captaincy. Firstly picking Sehwag over Kartik. And Sehwag didnt even bowl. Ganguly did bowl well, and saved Dhoni's hide. But we were one bowler short, and on this wicket where the ball was coming onto the bat, we needed someone to take the pace off the ball like Kartik.
Plus putting Sehwag as a floating batsman confused him, and upset the rythm of the innings. Because when Gambhir was out, the momentum of the innings went out. If Yuvi and Uthappa had been there to play a long innings, India would have made 25 more runs.
It makes sense to bowl Ganguly in the middle overs, because he takes pace off the ball, but only if you fill the slot with another batting all rounder, or an exceptional fielder.
Plus Dhoni also missed a stumping of Younis Khan off Ganguly's bowling, which was costly. Very !
Reasons for defeat - We were 20 runs short on this pitch. Played Sehwag instead of Kartik on this pitch.
Bring Dravid in place of Uthappa. U have to accept the facts man, i fu have to have the winning habit. Right arm slow bowlers like Prasad can do nothing good to India. Prasad never bowled a single yorker in his entire life. Now, he is teaching these young fast bowlers to bowl leg and off cutters which r not always effective. We need someone like Wasim Akram who can teach youngsters how to bowl in block holes. How to do reverse swing. Prasad even doesnt knw what is reverse swing. So far Uthappa, the less we talk about him, it's better. He should play in T20 only. He doesnt deserve to take Dravid's place. BRING BACK THE WALL OF INDIA!!!
RE:Remove Prasad from bowling coach, bring back DRAVID!!!
by maxxx on Nov 09, 2007 10:46 AM
Yes Ur Absolutely Right, Bring Back Dravid, I Donno About Prasad He Should Have Benn Spinning Coach Not Fast Bowling Coach.
RE:Remove Prasad from bowling coach, bring back DRAVID!!!
by Arman on Nov 09, 2007 10:50 AM
I m still surprised to see the same team getting continued till 2 more matches. This mean Dravid can get a chance now to play only in last ODI. Imagine the useless Sehwag gets chance ahaead of Dravid.
RE:Remove Prasad from bowling coach, bring back DRAVID!!!
by Raman on Nov 09, 2007 11:03 AM
Arman if u carefully look at the team Its a team of Dhoni-Vengsarkar. All T-20 guys with 2/3 exceptions.
RE:Remove Prasad from bowling coach, bring back DRAVID!!!
by hellboy on Nov 09, 2007 11:27 AM
Uthappa along with yuvi are the only players who look like can take on good fast bowling.But even after proving himself he has been made to bat so lower down the order even after dhoni. I hope he is not another kaif in making.
RE:Remove Prasad from bowling coach, bring back DRAVID!!!
by anshul on Nov 09, 2007 11:41 AM
Rohit Sharma is far far better than Uthappa. Uthappa has no technique only coming down the wicket n hitting he knows. That doesnt work in ODI. He was lucky in England to chase 317. But this is Pakistan and not England. Also he has dropped catches in series against AUS which cost India the match and samething happened yesterday also. India in fact has forgotten how to field and take catches.
RE:RE:RE:Zaheer DhaKhan
by Mark roy on Nov 09, 2007 10:38 AM
Zaheer was man of series in last tournament....and it is the fact no bowler cant stand when Afrid hitting in form...
RE:Zaheer DhaKhan
by Lotiya Pathan on Nov 09, 2007 10:42 AM
I personally feel, agarkar is needed in the team. Raina has been tried earlier, he cant cope-up with international pressure. I think, we need manoj tiwari. Ofcourse, we missed a 5th bowler yesterday@s match. Agarkar would have been handy there at Mohali pitch.
RE:Zaheer DhaKhan
by hellboy on Nov 09, 2007 11:33 AM
We need a scapegaot and that will be agarkar. No matter who gets hit, agarkar will be our scapegoat... poor thing. With all due repects to our young crop, agarkar is still our quickest bowler and the best in the death overs.
RE:Zaheer DhaKhan
by faraz khan on Nov 09, 2007 11:17 AM
If Afridi is in his form then no bowler stop him even Bret Lee would not have the answer of this..Why you blame only Zaheer..he bowled younis otherwise we would had loose the matche some over early..
RE:Zaheer DhaKhan
by brijesh kumar singh on Nov 09, 2007 11:55 AM
Yes........we are not blaming Zaheeer for the his last over.....ok u are right that at death overs any batsman not only Afridi even bowler can hit boundry from any team..........but tell me what about his first over....in that over he started bowling wide and byes and given 10 runs without any effort...That's why we are especially blaming Zaheer....but there is RP singh who just played inT20 world cup and faced the situation like yesterday....not bowling yorker giving Short and wide of the Stump......who is going to leave this type of delivery...even a no 11 batsman can hit that ball........
RE:RE:Zaheer DhaKhan
by hellboy on Nov 09, 2007 11:37 AM
Why blame zaheer "khan" when shahid "khan" is playing so well.lets blame some non-"khan".what say mr faraz "khan". Nim azzi peenkhan.
RE:Raina, Badrinath and Agarkar must
by rockey on Nov 09, 2007 10:25 AM
Agarker & Zaheer,both are Useless bowlers,nothing they learn from their experiance
RE:Raina, Badrinath and Agarkar must
by anshul on Nov 09, 2007 10:26 AM
Agarkar and Zaheer exist and existed only because they play from Mumbai. Mumbaikars are shame on Maharashtrians. They r create regional bias within the team
RE:Raina, Badrinath and Agarkar must
by . on Nov 09, 2007 10:38 AM
yes, both Zaheer and Agarkar despite so much experience of intnl ckt behind them looks novice in every match. even players like Joginder can improve if given the chances. better make investment in youngsters like VRV Singh, Ishant, YoMahesh, etc.
RE:Raina, Badrinath and Agarkar must
by anshul on Nov 09, 2007 10:43 AM
Mr . Jokerinder Sharma is good for nothing. He performed pathetically in Challenger. VRV Singh didnt eve play Challenger. So he is past now. Look at YoMahesh's stats first and then say something. His bowling is so pathetic that even #11 domestic batsmen can hit him. It happened in challenger. Imagine what will happen in ODI. I dont know how much fit Ishant is now.
RE:Raina, Badrinath and Agarkar must
by Lotiya Pathan on Nov 09, 2007 10:44 AM
Ansul, Agarkar would have been handy at pitch like Mohali. He always performed best at Aus, South afrca. We missed agarkar @ yesterday match.
RE:Raina, Badrinath and Agarkar must
by Ramanathan on Nov 09, 2007 10:33 AM
If Agarkar Was in Yesterday's Match, it would have been over in 43rd over itself...HAHAHAHAHA
RE:Raina, Badrinath and Agarkar must
by Akhil on Nov 09, 2007 10:38 AM
not 43rd, in 30th over itself. Agarkar Stats would have been : 10-0-110-1 (1 wicket may be of kamran akmal)
RE:Raina, Badrinath and Agarkar must
by ARJUN sawant on Nov 09, 2007 10:51 AM
KOOCH BHI KAY BHAI MOOH DIYA TO BOLANEKA ?
ETANA BHI NAHI LOOK AT SRISHANT AND RP SING THE AMOUNT OF EXTRA THEY CONSIDER IS VERY HIGH AND ONE MORE THING BOTH ECONOMY RATE AND STRIKE RATE IS HIGH THEN AGARKAR
AFTER PLAYING 188 MATCHES AGARKAR TOOK 288 WICKET (KAPIL DEV TOOK 253 WICKETS IN 253 MATCHES)
RE:Raina, Badrinath and Agarkar must
by anshul on Nov 09, 2007 11:07 AM
Ka re baba...Pot nahi bharla ka tujha watching Agarka's performance in T20. How many more chances does Agarkar deserve???
DEFEAT of the last MATCH DUE TO DHONI DECISION TO DROP MURALI KARTHIK AND INCLUSION OF SHEWAG,why they changed winning combination without any reason see the performance of Murali and Harbajan nowadays murali performing consistently but harbajan not like that kind of performance, the reason for 2nd ODI DEFEAT PURELY BY PLAYING ELEVEN,why selectors retaining Jaheer,harbajan,.they performing once in twenty match. but murali chawla not getting that much oppertunity,see chawla ,he bowled brilliantly in England tour but not in the team now selectors should concentrate bowling department also not only batting . the bowlers [zaheer,harbajan]got enough oppertunities but still they not matured.
RE:BRINGBACK MURALI KARTHIK
by Ramanathan on Nov 09, 2007 10:36 AM
Chawla Did Decent Job in England because The Englishmen can't play leg spin. Chawla does not deserve his place in the Fifteen. Players like Amit Mishra are better than him. Chawla will be ready for International Cricket only after 3 or 4 years.
