"We have always said that playing against England in the Ashes is where it's at, but I also think now playing against India is one of our greatest challenges as far as Test match cricket goes." So says Brett Lee. Did it look like one after the first test?
RE:Is he kidding???
by super success on Dec 30, 2007 08:51 PM
brett lee media has misinterpreted your sentence you said playing against south africa is biggest challenge and this biase media(third class) reporter gave india a credit
RE:Is he kidding???
by D S on Dec 30, 2007 08:52 PM
There is lot of 'Just kidding', misinformation as they say. Lee is a good guy as a person but is being utilized to soften Indians. ICC and their chamcha BCCI even planted Greg Chappel as the coach to screw the heads of Indian players. Hope the new coach and his mental toughness Aide does not repeat it.
does dravid in his present form even need a plan to get out... infact the longer he stays at the crease now.. the more beneficial it is for the opposition.....cause he'll make the rr zero...
RE:what planning..
by aaaa on Dec 30, 2007 08:50 PM
where is the onus on what could have been taken up by other batsmen to bat around him. you dont care to question that?
Look at Aussie Guts. They gave us 2 days to score 500 runs in 180 over with runrate of 2.80 per over. Still we couldn't win. If we were in their position, we would have batted till end of 4 th day and would have set target of 500 runs in 90 overs. Obviously , match would have ended in draw leaving opposition not to try such high target in lesser overs. Hats off Aussies...........!!!!!!!!!!
RE:dhoni and yuv are useless.
by arun premraj on Dec 30, 2007 08:43 PM
yes,,true,,, yuvraj;s century was against a c-grade pitch n bowling.. too hyped.. dhoni.. needs to prove his batting out of india.. a lot... sehwag can truly play well outside india..its time they give him his place..
RE:dhoni and yuv are useless.
by uncle shame on Dec 30, 2007 08:50 PM
yes. sehwag is real gutsy player compared with those 2 useless yuv n dhoni. he was the one gutsy to say yes to opening the innings when all the stalwarts refused to open in tests, n scored many centuries in overseas tour. unfortunately, he is hardly in form even in domestic matches.
RE:dhoni and yuv are useless.
by uncle shame on Dec 30, 2007 09:05 PM
dravid is always made a scapegoat. i recall sahara cup series in toronto against pak way back 1997(?) dominated by mohanti. that time also sachin was spared from opening the innings in odi coz ball was moving too much. our heros the one who hide their face in the sand on the slightest chance of the storm.
RE:dhoni and yuv are useless.
by D S on Dec 30, 2007 08:49 PM
Amazingly they kept ROhit, Raina and others out when AUZ and Pakis visited, don't give chance to anyone so people don't know their options.
RE:RE:dhoni and yuv are useless.
by uncle shame on Dec 30, 2007 08:53 PM
rightly said. but if stats is shown to ppl, they will be amazed. i was surprised to know abt yuv's overseas record of 9 innings without half century. similar the case of dhoni. its the selectors' blunder to pick the team on the basis of performances against weakest pak team on flattest pitches. n v hv tendency to go for the big names of ckt who r made so-called big by their PR agents.
ponting said that ausi had 4-5 different plans for ind batsman, video analysis of them in their laptop, etc. this is all rubbish, as now they have been victorious against ind in ausi pitches. if ponting had to boast such things, then he shud b asked y those plans were not successful when they played ind in ind and in t20 format. it seems that after victory, capt can say any damn things.
RE:RE:ausi n ponting r talking rubbish.
by Murly Iyer on Dec 30, 2007 09:52 PM
Are you saying Aussies dont plan to a batsman, then your kidding. Ask Jayawardene / Greame Smith / Kallis / or Gayle and the Aussues know the exact weakness of almost all the great batsman.They have theeir process to identify that and no other team can match that. Look at their winning records, hence I repeat yu dont need a captain for Australia, just the process is good enough, which is discussed with the bowlers before the match.
RE:ausi n ponting r talking rubbish.
by uncle shame on Dec 31, 2007 02:33 AM
every team plans. even ausis r expert in that. no doubt abt it. indians also plan but once on the field, they forget all their plans n bowls wayward boling n starts fishing outside off stump while batting. but they were successful in implementing their plan, as ind was playing in ausi. the same ausis' plans failed when they played ind in ind in t20 format. the plans did not succeed. only difference, now they r playing at home with advantage. n they r successful in implementing plans.
RE:ausi n ponting r talking rubbish.
by Mature Stud on Dec 30, 2007 08:42 PM
I dont think they are talking rubbish... Maybe its better if we understand that fast... and try to outdo it...
Looks like u are a stupid idli who doesnt like this anti dravid theme that this message has shown...
RE:ausi n ponting r talking rubbish.
by uncle shame on Dec 30, 2007 08:58 PM
mature. ponting has not singled out dravid. but stated this for all ind batsman. it is just boasting since he is successful. may b our batsman played to their plans not even crossing 150.
RE:ausi n ponting r talking rubbish.
by Murly Iyer on Dec 30, 2007 09:14 PM
Not rubbish at all. take a look at this. Jaffer --ndismissed in both innings identically-- his weakness Dravid -- not a single delivery on his legs to get off the mark -- his strong area to score
Tendulkar -- Not allowed to free his arms short rising deliveries outside the off stump.Dismissed 6 times in the last 7 test matches identically- his lack of flexibility in recent times Yuvraj Singh -- Potential snicker from the word go -- greatest weakness
Laxman -- not a single ball on his legs- poor fellow tries to play off side deliveries to the leg side.
Ganguly -- always short of good length deliveries-- will definitelt glove one the leg side. Dhoni -- weakness to the incoming delivery both innings.
The rest is not worth saying.
Hence the bowling is always to a plan and not rubbish for sure.
RE:RE:ausi n ponting r talking rubbish.
by uncle shame on Dec 30, 2007 09:41 PM
yes. but indians played to their plans and faltered. my question is when ausi failed against ind, in t20 wc and in ind, they cudnt plan properly then. isnt it?
Whatever happens to BCCI or ICC. We should not stop the march of Indians to be a 'LAND OF TRULY FREE". March to FULL and TRUE FREEDOM:
We don't need this fake democracy called 'Parliamentary democracy', but direct election of PM and CM by PEOPLE!!! The MLA's representative will be in Lok-sabha and NO need for powerless Rajya-Sabha.
NDIANS PLAYED A THIRD RUNG PAKISTANI ATTACK ON READY-TO-GROW-CORN WICKETS.. HAD THEY PLAYED AGAINST THEIR SECOND RUNG ATTACK THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN MURDERED... NOW THEY ARE PLAYING THE FIRST RUNG AUSSIE BOWLING, HOW CAN YOU EXPECT THEM TO MAKE IT INTO THE FOURTH DAY..
PS: PONTING'S DECLARATION (GET 500 IN TWO AND A HALF DAYS)SHOULD SERVE AS AN EYE OPENER TO THE OLD KUMBLE. HE GIVES TEAMS 400 TO SCORE IN 40 OVERS!!
RE:haha
by Ram on Dec 31, 2007 02:32 PM
Ponting in his place did the right thing. And, Kumble in his place did what was best at that moment. With India's poor fielding and injury prone bowling attack, Kumble could not have attacked as much. And, mind you Pak were batting well. Ponting was confident that Indian's would try and get the runs in their own way, and end up nowhere.
While the professional and ruthless Aussies are busy plotting Indian team's downfall in the current test series (it looks like it's going to be 4-0 after all; you don't need nuclear science to fathom which side is going to win these Tests), the hyped Indian 'stars' are busy plotting which discotheque to barge into next and which commercial product to endorse and oh yes, which Bollywood beauty to chase. The BCCI is plotting out the next year's cricketing tamasha events to rake in the moolah, and Pawar is plotting on how to save his own political fiefdom. The media is ploting whom next to put on a false pedestal and hero-worhsip him (only to be dumped when the next hype-boy arrives). Time India gave up this useless game, a waste of precious time for a nation that is forging ahead and has global aspirations. We have hero-worshipped these zeroes for far too long. They can sing, dance and act, but don't expect these schoolboys to stand up to the rigours of real athleticism. Leave that to the men. Jaganniwas Iyer
RE:Aussie men and our schoolboys
by Murly Iyer on Dec 30, 2007 08:41 PM
Jaganniwas, You are right, our news channels have only three subjects " Bollywood / Cricket / Interviews / Breaking news ( which is always a bad news ). So by giving up this game, the news channels will have more time and less news. More over what will happen to the 6000 crores turnover and the sponsorships. Remember cricket is now an industry and no longer a game.
v need one genuine fast bolr. if not available, v hv to take one of those young guys like ishant or pankaj who r having 6 and half ft height. either of them can b tried. they hv the potential to generate good bounce on ausi pitches using their height. they can b 'accomodated' by dropping any of the useless batsmen like yuv and dhoni.
if 7 batsman cant score 150 runs then its no use of seventh batsman. v need to take 20 wkts also. n ishant/pankaj may b tried as 5th bolr.
MR YUVRAJ AND MR DHONI WAKE UP YOU R PLAYING ON AUSTRALIAN PITCHES AND AUSTRALIAN TEAM ..TO BECOME A CHAMPION PLAYER YOU SHOULD PLAY AGAINST CHAMPION TEAM AND CHAMPION PITCHES..DONT UNNECESSARY BARK IN THE MEDIA WINNING AGAINST NOT IN FORM TEAMS...SHOW YOUR POTENTIAL,TEMPER,ATTITUDE AND HOW POSITIVE U R ...BE POSITIVE ON THE FIELD RATHER THN OFF THE FIELD ..SEE AUSSIES THERE R TRUE PROFESSIONAL AND POSITIVE ON FIELD..RECENTLY I READ A STATEMENT THT YUVRAJ PLAYS LIKE LARA ..I DONT SEE CLOSE TO LARA ALSO ,,HE IS CLASS ACT ..YUVRAJ IS 20-20 AND 50 OVERS PLAYERS..PLAYERS IS JUDGE WHN BALL IS FISHING AROUND AND HE IS PLAYING ....DHONIS AND YUVIS CANT COME IN THE RANK 3 GRT GUNS LIKE TENDULKAR ,DRAVID AND GANGULY..I BELIEVE IN RESULTS ..I ACCEPT KUMBLE STATEMENT...BATSMEN IS MAIN CAUSES IN RECENT DEFEAT..I AM TOTALLY AGAINST YUVRAJ ,,HE IS NOT HAVING POTENTIAL OF HANDLING TEST CRICKET..LAXMAN PERFORM WELL IN TESTS I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY HE IS OUT OF ONE DAY FORMAT..AS A INDIAN I HAVE TO SAY GOOD LUCK ,BUT I AM SURE RESULT GOING TO BE 4-0,DURING TOUR OF 1999-2000 JAYWANT LELE SAID INDIAN GOING TO LOSE 3-0 HE WAS CHAIRMAN OR SELECTOR AT THT TIME..SHOW YOUR CHARACTER ON THE FIELD NOT OFF THE FIELD..MR YUVRAJ AND DHONI U R PLAYING FOR THE COUNTRY ,BUT NOW A DAY U R FOCUS IS ON DEEPIKA,TANUSHREE DUTTA AND KIM SHRAMA ..BE PROFESSIONAL LIKE AUSSIES THN ONLY U BE TRUE CRICKETER
