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irfan
politics in cricket
by irfan on Nov 08, 2005 06:52 PM

i completely agree with Mr. Surti's views about the situation in the indian cricket. Cricket in india will only prosper if we get rid of these politicians like Dalmiya and others. Its been long time that indians shud wake up and think about changing things otherwise politician would make it another hell similar to the state of indian politics.

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sanjay
Team India
by sanjay on Nov 08, 2005 04:20 PM  | Hide replies

I feel Team India needs to build a team for future and should pick players on form rather than experience and age.Captain & Coach should be allowed to select a team or should be given a part to play in selecting a team...hope Team India wins World Cup with this kind of planning and our wishes are with them...Hum Hain Na

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Arijit
comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Arijit on Nov 08, 2005 03:05 PM  | Hide replies

It is simply beyond imagination to digest ganguly's exclusion from the indian team simply because he disclosed what chappel told him.Let's not forget that ganguly's succes percentage as a skipper is very high and he also scored more than 16000 runs in international cricket.We cannot question about a person's talent who scored more than 20 centuries in international cricket and 16000 runs.This is just politics.How can the Board sack a skipper only because the coach appointed on contract basis does not like him.

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dean
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by dean on Nov 09, 2005 11:13 AM

That does not mean he should remain always captain of India? How can you say that? when there good who bat,ball and field well very ? Why include a guy whose suscept to short bowling. Opposite team is sure of one wicket before a ball is bowled.

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Milan
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Milan on Nov 08, 2005 11:25 PM
Mr. Arijit, Ganguly was not expelled because he disclosed what the coach told him, but he used the private conversation between himself and coach to get the public sympathy back home and brought bad name to the Indian Cricket. If Ganguly was so afraid of truth why did he approach Chappel for a frank opinion in the first place?Talking about politics, he is getting the dose of his own medicine that he used against Laxman and Kaif who were a threat to his position in the middle order. Other wise how could anyone explain the expulsion of Kaif from Test side when Kaif was the only player who played consistently well in Srilanka and Zimbabwe. He gave a phony reason that Yuvaraj has a better record than Kaif

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Vikas K
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Vikas K on Nov 09, 2005 09:51 AM
Not only me, actually most of the Indian Cricket Lovers are thinking that why Gangly is still not a part of "Team India". Players are going in and out due to injuries and failures, but Gangly still waiting for his come back in "Team India". Things are going good with "Team India" with the changes are experimenting but frequency of such experiments should be kept in a certain way to get good results. Otherwise its just look childish things to do such frequent changes with " Team India. What is the need of giving Sachin rest in the one day, he has to be on field for next 10 matches in a row, but selectors things on other way and we know the result. Love to see Gangly accepting applause frm Chappel after making 100 in his welcome match.

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Sheldon Serrao
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Sheldon Serrao on Nov 08, 2005 07:49 PM
You're either blind or crazy. See what Dravid and Chappell are doing to the team. See the energy, see the positivity, see the results. Please don't mention the G word again. India has had enough. Yes, you are entitled to an opinion. Mine.

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Ramani
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Ramani on Nov 09, 2005 12:42 AM
I totally agree with you Arijit. Everyone realizes what Chappels is upto after his divide and rule policy affects all the players. He is not actually supporting really talented people and he is going for the players who actually listen to him and blindly follow whatever he says. Its really surprising how people can forget our Ganguly's valuable contribution to the Indian cricket. If they cannot accomadate him right now, that is fine, but why should he get this kind of response.

He was the inspiration for many young people and he always supported young talent. And also, just because Zaheer and Laxman are supported by Ganguly, even they didn't get into the Squad.

People who comment about Ganguly's performance, I have a question for you. How come Kaif got his place after his 56 and not Ganguly after his century for East Zone. And why Laxman is not considered. If everyone give a serious thought, the real intentions of Chappell will be known.



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Anonymous
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Anonymous on Nov 09, 2005 07:45 AM
This is precisey is the malaise --- holding onto the past records. By the way, Ganguly is not anyway playing Test cricket well, everyone knows that. In one days too, lately he has been out of form for more than a year. How long should he be constinued as a passenger just because some influential Calcutta man in the Board allegedly backs him (using the logic of coach being against Ganguly and hence being dropped)? By the way, Ganguly is lucky of not only to have continued past his primes for long time but also for using lies to make his place secure in the team. He told lies to Laxman as mentioned in the letter by Chappell and even then there is no inquiry against him!! So Ganguly fans should be happy that he is not being made subjected to enquiries like other cricketers had been subjected to in recent past(Azharuddin, Kapil Dev, Jadeja etc).

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Alok Kumar
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Alok Kumar on Nov 08, 2005 11:30 PM
I strongly disagree with the notion that if an individual has made some X thousands International Runs or taken n 100th Wkt, they are not answerable to any questions. More than the public questions, they should question themselves, if they are failing consistently.

Moreover, everyone of these big names should be answerable to the public questions as they are representating India at this big level. Otherwise, if this "Can't be questioned" theory holds good, we still would have been seeing A Gavaskar (may be scoring his 20,00th run) by now aor a Kapil (Hopefully reaching 600th Wkt) and for that matter, I sincerely believe that Chappel should also be evaluated frequently and not be left after his initial success / failures. Success has to be consistent. You can't keep relying on history, though records don't lie, but more than that its the performance, which does matter and should be the most important factor in selection, but unfortunately, thats not the case for we are still slave of the "Hero-worshipping" for this team game :(.

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Dilip
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Dilip on Nov 09, 2005 03:23 AM
Though Ganguly was a good player in the past. In last three consecutive series he was struggling to bat. Then why should we have a player without form inside the team while the talented youngstars are still to get chance? The rotation policy established by Greg chappel is excellent and if a player is not performing well he should go out of the team (whatever previous records he may have)so that the dream of all cricket fans of India should not ruin. This will definitely imporove the standard of Indian Cricket (as Australian have already succeeded with this strategy).


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Ravi
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Ravi on Nov 09, 2005 08:14 AM
One Bengali supporting another! Who cares about his records and his past, his current form has to be taken into account! Saurav is a pathetic fielder, he is a selfish player who tried to break Veeru/Sachin opening aprtnership for his own sake beacause he knew that he couldn't fit anywhere else! I think he should be paid some monthly pension for his 'achievements' and permanently retired. Have one look at the Aussie captain and you realise where SG stands! And one final piece of advice to you Arijit - Stop being so parochial!

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Deepak Sood
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Deepak Sood on Nov 09, 2005 09:19 AM
mr. arijit,

there is no point carrying history along the tail of an elephant. measure the importance of a person in the cricketing world by his current form. non performing and unfit players should be kept out and younger generation should be given a chance. there will be initial hiccups, but then it will laydown the success for future and important tournaments.

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Kulwinder
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Kulwinder on Nov 09, 2005 08:27 AM
Arijit Dada

Can you seriously cross you heart and say that you are being completely objective and not responding out of a soft corner for a fellow bengali? We all acknowledge Sourav's great personal achievements and what he has done for Indian cricket as a captain and a player.

But there comes a time when even the great players like Kapil and Gavaskar had to decide to hang their boots. Or, look at Sachin - he had to take a break for 6 months to recover from his injury before he returned to international cricket.

We are all confident that Sourav has all the talent and experience to return to Indian team, as a player in his own right. Hopefully, he would think positively and look at his current exclusion as an opportunity rather than a threat to his future in Indian cricket.

That's my two-bit. Please don't take my comments personally.

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Sudhir
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Sudhir on Nov 09, 2005 07:35 AM
I totally agree with you that Ganguly scored more than 16000 runs in international cricket and is my favourite cricketer too. We need to accept Chappell view that Ganguly, at present is out of form and has to come as a player. It is a fact, as skipper Ganguly has not contributed anything to the team, he is very low as a skipper. Everyone say, look at Gangulys record as skipper, I say look at Gangulys contribution as a skipper. Its not only number of matches won, Its also what is Gangulys contribution as a skipper? He succeeded as a skipper only because of other young team members playing well, like Patan, Yuvraj, Kaif and Sehwag.
Chappel never said he doesnt like Ganguly. Coach is on contract or permanent, he has all rights to judge whether the player is capable of playing or not. Coach can question about a person's talent at present, not seeing his records. Kapil Dev was great player, so Coach cant let him play now. So my friend what is past is History and who should play today is what it all means? Chappel is doing well and I totally agree with Chappel. If Ganguly is back to form, no one can stop him from being skipper again.

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RR
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by RR on Nov 08, 2005 09:16 PM
please man! save the 16000 runs BS for the "hall of fame" argument. Build a temple for ganguly and become the head priest. Who the hell cares?

over the past 2 years (no small sample), he has been borderline embarrasing as a batsman. Not just that, he is the worst fielder, most horrible runner between wickets and a serious head case. since WC 2003, we have dropped from # 2 to # 7 in the world, no thanks to your highness. move on man. Give the man his gold watch and let the youngsters take over.

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pralesh
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by pralesh on Nov 08, 2005 11:42 PM
I agree with statement that Ganguly was the best and he made more than 16000 runs in international cricket and so ons. I would say just one sentence.
"Indian team is not a museum where we keep all the most valuable things of history"

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Javed
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Javed on Nov 08, 2005 06:45 PM
I am biwildered to see that Bengalis support Saurav so much. When all of India wants Ganguly sacked,the Bengalis just want him because he is one of them.Thats Ridiculous. Every thing has expiry dates and when Brand Ganguly has expired they are not ready to accept and keep giving excuses of his record. Altho if one looks at his record he has not won any big tournament (read as any tournament). We all blame Azhar but he won so many Tournaments for India and many on his own.What is gone is history. Lets Look forward and cheer team India instead of crying foul over a decision taken rather late but definitely correctly .

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Yogesh
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Yogesh on Nov 09, 2005 03:34 AM
C'mon.. Dont talk in past tense.. lets talk about present..The sun has set for Ganguly and its time to move on... No person can be greater than the team..

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Ray
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Ray on Nov 08, 2005 06:36 PM
No one including Ganguly can say he is above team when it should be the other way around. When team's interests were sacrificed for Ganguly who was just a passenger in the last two years where were the supporters of the "Maharaja"? I dont remember any play in the near future won by Ganguly's ability. Ganguly was a leach which benefited from others ability in the last two years and it is good that he is out of the team now.


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Bob
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Bob on Nov 09, 2005 09:01 AM
Ganguly is the most HATED captain India had ever had. It is not because of Ganguly's ability,India has won but because of his luck and the team composition. He WAS a good player and has 16000 runs doesn't mean he can play forever for India.(We cannot call Gavasakar, Allan Border and so on for the reason of having too many runs scored to their name) He WAS a good player but till his regains his form, he should be EXCLUDED. NO REGRETS AT ALL. I as a Cricket Fan don't miss him.

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Prashant
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Prashant on Nov 08, 2005 09:31 PM
AJIT, I just have to say u sound like a Bengaly, who dont care about the nation but only care about supporting a Bengaly Irrespective of the fact that Ganguly is not performing for more than a year. Ur position in the team should be based on merits not on the name. Kudos to Chappel for his efforts to get rid of non performers like Ganguly who was a liability on the team.

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Vishvas Rao
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Vishvas Rao on Nov 08, 2005 05:45 PM
There is also something called as performance my friend. The so called captain was a woeful performer for years together and does not deserve a place in the team.

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Suga
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Suga on Nov 08, 2005 11:21 PM
that is the stupidest comment...because ganguly scored all these(loong loong ago before he met the nagma) he should be in the team even he sucks like lame donkey?
you select ppl based on talent..if there are more ppl who have talent than him they should be in the team...
you gangluy sucker..

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Arun
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Arun on Nov 09, 2005 09:06 AM
Why do you guys talk about Ganguly's past records. Sure he was good at some point but cricket is not played in the past. Present performance is what matters. Its like saying, lets get PT Usha to run in the next Olympics because she holds the record. Ganguly should prove his ability as a cricketer to get back in the team and I dont think it should be based on performances against minions like Zimbabwe or Bangladesh. Make him play for the A team when South Africa and England come and then if he does well select him. I think Dravid should be kept the captain for now. He is such a good cricketer who is aware of every facet of th egame.

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Som
RE:comment on ganguly's exclusion from Indian Team
by Som on Nov 09, 2005 12:50 PM
This is some nice thing happening in Indian cricket.even player with caliber like ganguly is finding it difficult to get into indian team.Looking at Gang's performance and captancy it was looking like india team would have gone to hell with him.His performance and dedication was so disgusting in last two years.

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SenthilVelavan
Indian Cricket
by SenthilVelavan on Nov 08, 2005 03:00 PM  | Hide replies

I read out this article and I wishes Mr.Rusi Surti for his valuable role in the Indian cricket.So,Everyday we think like this person's contribution.Couch Mr.Chappel is our golden gift.Our Board of control will give all support to our coach then only we will win coming world cup and series.Don't give importance to the Individuals .we can do these thro our coach Mr.Chappell.This is very good article.
Regs.
S.SenthilVelavan

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Animesh
RE:Indian Cricket
by Animesh on Nov 09, 2005 04:00 AM
What? Ganguly was rightly sacked. His attitude was that like of Manoj Prabhakar towards the end. he wouldn't run. He wouldn't field. He would take breaks. He wouldn't consult injuries. He would rest thinking he is the captain and no one can sack him.

Chapell is a professional and Ganguly a mediocre. Ganguly made 10000 runs but not in the last 20 matches he played. He made it in yesteryears and every player has a day!

You say Chapell is on contract! I say Ganguly will play only till his youth is. In other words, both things are short-lived and you cannot rule one over the other.

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Sameer
RE:Indian Cricket
by Sameer on Nov 08, 2005 08:10 PM
MR surti, I beleive you are a respected person and good crickters, but how can you defame Ganguly? One more thing to everyone who crtitisizes ganguly for his atttitude? If attitude is letting ganguly donw, then how can you people forget the attitude of Australians? Remembered famous Australian sledging.. I will make you remember... McGrath sledge Tendulkar, Lara, Sarawan, Atherton. Dravid and everyone. Same thing with Shane warne, but no one will say about them, because they are Australians and same thing with Greg Chappel. Gangulys problem is that he is Indian, so he has to take the blame game.

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harry
RE:Indian Cricket
by harry on Nov 09, 2005 08:11 AM
hi,

Ganguly is a great player,no doubt.but sadly he has outplayed his utility in the team.

We must realise that the team is bigger than individuals and not the other way round.The Australians never batted an eyelid before they threw out Steve waugh from their one day team

Simlilarly,the retirement of the michael bevan,the best one day player was hardly a head line for them.Bevan was still playing well,but they wanted to move ahead.

We cannot be really sentimental on issues like this.If Ganguly plays well and can get back into team on his on merit,very well,all the luck to him.But past performances should not ever be a criteria to judge a player who,sadly for all of us is nearing the fag end of his career


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