RE:Brahmins deserve to be executed and annihilated.
by badri nath on Apr 30, 2007 12:13 PM Permalink
Mr Iyer what are you saying.. You want to become another Hitler or create a Hitler in India. You better read Raghula sangrithyayan the great social thinker who wrote from Volga to Ganges where you can get proof that caste system was created by Dravidas before the aryans entered in India. Dont throw words as you like without knowing the history. And this kind of happenings was inevitable in the History of Humans. Mankind will march forward always. badrinath
RE:Brahmins deserve to be executed and annihilated.
by biz Narayan on Apr 30, 2007 11:21 AM Permalink
Execution, anhilliation etc are racial ideas, that British missionaries used against Indian civillization.
Unfortunately the JNU historians and humanitarians supported the racial analysis,as it was in europe. they wouldn't backdown unless whiteman instructs them to do so.
RE:RE:Brahmins deserve to be executed and annihilated.
by Madhana gopal on Apr 30, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
shame shame that u brahmins grew at the cost of low caste people without giving them basic rights and now u shameless creature claming to be intelligent, intelligence is not just flashy english, by the way dont claim urself to be intelligent ur commnets do not substantiate that.
RE:RE:RE:Brahmins deserve to be executed and annihilated.
by anantharaman venkatraman on Apr 30, 2007 12:37 PM Permalink
Mr.madanagopal,you should be ashamed and envious of brahmins. they don't get a share of reservation and other benefits doled out by Govt for votes. They dont crave to be labelled ans OBC / MBC.Their oppotunities are narrowed down .Still they know how to survive and excell by thei sheer intellect.
RE:Brahmins deserve to be executed and annihilated.
by Jeya Shree on Apr 30, 2007 11:23 AM Permalink
For your information, Brahmins never look for the right. They look for the green. Wherever there is a possibity to claim up & get lot money, they go there and stay there. Earlier they went to US because of money. Now they come back becasue now india is developing. They are ready fly anywhere depends on the season
RE:RE:Brahmins deserve to be executed and annihilated.
by Somberi on Apr 30, 2007 11:26 AM Permalink
Again you dumbo. India is shining because people who have been abroad have decided to come back and live in India because of the love of their homeland despite its limitations. It is their experience abroad that has opened their minds and the knowledge acquired there is being put to use in India.You know what you need to be taught a lesson or two on reasoning.
after reading the rediff article, i feel great about him. Tamil nadu have produced a great social icon. I have read about all the other social reformers earlier in history but this man is great above all of them.I think rediff is doing a great job...
Periya(r!) is a siriya(small) human creature before GOD. Even before Hiranya Kasipa , Bhasmasura like challanged and even went for war against GOD and then realised who the almaighty is.Periyar where ever he got birth now must be repenting now.Lakhs of periyars have come and gone.Crores of his followers or the so called admirers can not even look at GOD, leave only challenging him. PSN ACHARYULU
RE:Periya(r!)
by reena kulkarni on Apr 30, 2007 11:19 AM Permalink
whatever progress we made ,is in spite of reservation..brahminism, if u understand truly, is a way of life...anyone who adopts it is a brahmin...i was borne in brahmin family,,but i was not told to observe any casteism, non-touchability or any such things., i hardly visit a temple (am not proud of this but that is the way it is)...reservation was meant to be abolished after a certain period but only en-bloc voting and congress policies have kept it alive...if we did not have such third rate leaders, we would have been world leaders today..but as things stand, we r just pretenders to the throne..our weakness is from within..our society is divided, ruled by hatred..just venture out in mumbai on ambedkar jayanti and see the hooliganism that goes on..is this what ambedkar taught the dalits? if society had certain customs which were wrong, how can u practise the same in a reverse way,,naming it reservation? reservation is just trying to create brahmins out of dalits, if u know what i mean. reservation, if any, should only be on the basis of economic factors and we should ensure that all bright and talented people get due opportunities... then only we have some hope as a nation..even otherwise, the so called brahmins are all doing well as they have learnt to cope with reservation by scoring excellent marks, by focusing on education, by providing for their children and eventually settling them abroad in western societies where talent alone matters..
do u think america would have progressed if they had reservations for blacks?
Periyar was a hypocrite of the first order. He was against brahmins in all public matters, but in his personal matters he always depended on Brahmins to help him out. His followers are nothing but goons who go about terrorising the Hindu's. They dont dare speak about other religion's.
RE:We need more periyars
by biz Narayan on Apr 30, 2007 11:19 AM Permalink
The Brahmins from outside India, the British as white saviours is a myth. But the barbarians have made this a rule, the JNU people, the Hindu supported these ideas.
More periyars would be manufactured in the process, more perverts.
Figures stating that over 90% of gazetted posts and professionals In Tamilnadu were Brahmins in 1920's and 1930's are repeated without any substantiation. While their share was more than 3% (which is alleged to have been their share in the population), it was nearer 15%, and nowhere near 90%. If they had obtained university degrees, it was from institutions which were predominantly managed by non-Brahmins. So they did not stand in the way of others getting educated or getting degrees. KS Ramakrishnan
RE:Periyar and Brahmins
by Balasubramaniam R on Apr 30, 2007 11:28 AM Permalink
Have you heard of this "Lies, damned lies, Satistics". Just quoting some figures and percentages gives a look of authenticity to what one says. In this country we do not even know the correct population figure. Govt does not know for certain howmany are employed by it today leave alone their religion etc and that too 50-60 years ago. One have to laugh it off as a joke.
Brahminism is the evil spirit behind Brahmin which has caused all the damage to the nation. Is the Brahmin of modern India prepared to discard Brahminism atleast in the interest of humanity and India society? Perhaps, it is not. Parihar, Phule, Ambedker and other social reformers who had experienced the pinch of Braminism always hated the evil spirit not the individual. Rev Dr Jasjit Singh
RE:RE:Brahminism
by on Apr 30, 2007 01:00 PM Permalink
Mr. Your name neds with "Singh" and you denounce the Hindu Caste system. Why don't you start with you first (Remioving Singh from your name? We may fight among ourselves but in the end, we all are brothers. But you people divide us and make us fight forever.
RE:Periyar's racist ideas
by reena kulkarni on Apr 30, 2007 11:19 AM Permalink
whatever progress we made ,is in spite of reservation..brahminism, if u understand truly, is a way of life...anyone who adopts it is a brahmin...i was borne in brahmin family,,but i was not told to observe any casteism, non-touchability or any such things., i hardly visit a temple (am not proud of this but that is the way it is)...reservation was meant to be abolished after a certain period but only en-bloc voting and congress policies have kept it alive...if we did not have such third rate leaders, we would have been world leaders today..but as things stand, we r just pretenders to the throne..our weakness is from within..our society is divided, ruled by hatred..just venture out in mumbai on ambedkar jayanti and see the hooliganism that goes on..is this what ambedkar taught the dalits? if society had certain customs which were wrong, how can u practise the same in a reverse way,,naming it reservation? reservation is just trying to create brahmins out of dalits, if u know what i mean. reservation, if any, should only be on the basis of economic factors and we should ensure that all bright and talented people get due opportunities... then only we have some hope as a nation..even otherwise, the so called brahmins are all doing well as they have learnt to cope with reservation by scoring excellent marks, by focusing on education, by providing for their children and eventually settling them abroad in western societies where talent alone matters..
do u think america would have progressed if they had reservations for blacks?
RE:Periyar's racist ideas
by sabu abraham on Apr 30, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
reservations are no needed for blacks in america,because they are treated as equals every where in the USA. but in India,many villages are under caste system,they are not allowed to use well used by the upper caste.
RE:Periyar's racist ideas
by kumar on Apr 30, 2007 11:20 AM Permalink
So, Rev Dr Jasjit Singh has recomeneded Brahmin of modern India prepared to discard Brahminism atleast in the interest of humanity and India society.
I am recommending him to leave christianity of modern World prepared to discard Chriastinaity atleast in the interest of humanity in the world. As these christians are killing lacks INNOCENT MUSLIMS on the terrorism in Afghanisthan and Iran and as they are doing brutal things to blacks, they harrassed the blacks more than dalits in India. I can definitely tell that christianity is evil spirit. Leave that before advising brahmins to leave hindusim. Those are non-brahmins who did atrosities on dalits and some other, not brahmins. 99% of the cases done by non brahmins.
RE:Periyar's racist ideas
by Robin on Apr 30, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
Killing innocent people is anti-christian. Christianity is not responsible for any atrocities done by people who call themselves 'christians'. The essence of Christianity is love not murder. No religion can compel the people to follow its principles. It is man who has to follow the religion. No one under the sun can eliminate Christianity. Many people in power have tried/ are trying to eliminate it. But the truth is that Christianity grows faster when it is subjected to oppression and humiliation. This is the history. If one believes that it is because of Christianity killings take place anywhere in the world, it is one's lack of knowledge about Christianity. Believe it or not. Christian missionaries started so many educational institutions where not only Christians but also other people were educated while Brahmins taught only Brahmins and did not care about others. Even today most of the educational insitutions are run by Christian organizations. It is only because of Christian institutions, litteray rate is high in south TamilNadu, Kerala, and North-Eastern states like Nagaland and Mizoram. Christians are always loyal to India and work towards the betterment of India.
RE:Periyar's racist ideas
by anantharaman venkatraman on Apr 30, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
Mr.Robin, I went to Loyolla college to seek admission for my son who had secured 98% marks. The Christian professor/vice principal, after seeing the noting 'forward cast'asked 'Why don't you go to Vivekananda college" and denied admission. This is the staus of your "Love" and the way you run your institutions.
RE:Periyar's racist ideas
by jawahar peter on Apr 30, 2007 01:45 PM Permalink
vivekananda is better for truly.being brahmin and scored 98% u were being taught even simple things.ur son would have got that marks by copying
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by sabu abraham on Apr 30, 2007 01:31 PM Permalink
CONGRATS ROBIN,CONGRATS.I BOW MY HEAD BEFORE YOU AND I SALUTE YOU. WHAT YOU SAID IS 100% CORRECT AND TRUE.
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by sabu abraham on Apr 30, 2007 01:39 PM Permalink
DONT USE DIRTY WORDS,IS THIS YOUR CULTURE. THE BRITISH PEOPLE DID NOT DIVIDED US.IT WAS CONGRESS THAT DIVIDED OUR COUNTRY AS PAKISTAN AND INDIA NOT THE BRITISH. IF BRITISH PEOPLE DID NOT CAME TO INDIA,YOU WILL NEVER EVER SEE INDIA IN THE PRESENT STATE.IT WAS BRITISH PEOPLE WHO UNITED CAPE TO KASHMIR AND GUJRAT TO NORTH EAST AS ONE SINGLE NATION.YES OFCOURSE THERE ARE SO MANY WRONG DOINGS FROM BRITISH,BUT WE SHOULD BE THANKFUL AND RESPECT THEM,THEY GIVE US ENGLISH.THATS WHY MOST BRAHMINS GOING TO TO UK AND USA TO CLEAN BATHROOMS AND LAVOTRIES FOR WHITE PEOPLE WHOM THEY HATE.
RE:Periyar's racist ideas
by kumar on Apr 30, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
Hey Robin, why cannot you think in the same, as HInduism is not responsible for any atrosities done by people who call them selves as hindus. Those who are doing descrimination or killing, are definitely not hindus. Then why you people made responsible hinduism. I know, no religion will tell any descrimination or atrosities. But people like spreads poisonous anti-hinduism theories in peoples mind to convert.
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by jawahar peter on Apr 30, 2007 01:48 PM Permalink
case law does go in favour of christianity and goes againist hinduism. kumar use your plain logic. kjpeter@hotmail.com
I see a lot of people feel that they would get a better status if they are from upper castes or brahmins. In reality this is not true, these are myths which are propogated by political parties for votes. Anyways since people are not willing to accept realities, there is only way... lets abolish all the castes in hindu religion... we will then be left with only two castes the have's and have not's;
RE:Lets abolish all castes
by reena kulkarni on Apr 30, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
whatever progress we made ,is in spite of reservation..brahminism, if u understand truly, is a way of life...anyone who adopts it is a brahmin...i was borne in brahmin family,,but i was not told to observe any casteism, non-touchability or any such things., i hardly visit a temple (am not proud of this but that is the way it is)...reservation was meant to be abolished after a certain period but only en-bloc voting and congress policies have kept it alive...if we did not have such third rate leaders, we would have been world leaders today..but as things stand, we r just pretenders to the throne..our weakness is from within..our society is divided, ruled by hatred..just venture out in mumbai on ambedkar jayanti and see the hooliganism that goes on..is this what ambedkar taught the dalits? if society had certain customs which were wrong, how can u practise the same in a reverse way,,naming it reservation? reservation is just trying to create brahmins out of dalits, if u know what i mean. reservation, if any, should only be on the basis of economic factors and we should ensure that all bright and talented people get due opportunities... then only we have some hope as a nation..even otherwise, the so called brahmins are all doing well as they have learnt to cope with reservation by scoring excellent marks, by focusing on education, by providing for their children and eventually settling them abroad in western societies where talent alone matters..
do u think america would have progressed if they had reservations for blacks?
RE:Lets abolish all castes
by pet fed on Apr 30, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
US is having reservation for blacks. the system is called "affirmative actions". kindly read american history. They have done it so systematically that, the whites are taking pride in their black countrymans. regards.
RE:Lets abolish all castes
by biz Narayan on Apr 30, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
They want to make churches in hinduism, which will be taken over by the powerful politicians.
RE:Lets abolish all castes
by Jeya Shree on Apr 30, 2007 11:08 AM Permalink
I don't think Brahmin will agree for this. Becasue Brahmin is getting lot advantage becasue of this caste brand. Brahmin never leave this brand.
Periyar was Kannadiga/Telugu Naikar, not Tamil. He used the divide and rule method of British and divided the tamils in the name of caste. Mainly he wanted turn the uneducated low caste people against educated Brahmins, so that the Brahmins will leave the state and non-tamils can rule the Tamilnadu. He was able achieve it, most the Brahmins went to Delhi, Mumbai & other states and now most of the leaders in Tamilnadu are not tamils.
He said no god and broke Hindu statues and temples, but did not say a single word against Christianity or Islam.
He also tried to divide India.
The current state of cast based Tamilnadu politics is because of him. It is unfortunate that Tamilnadu went behind these kind of leaders instead of Rajaji, Kamaraj, etc.
RE:Periyar
by Karthik Karthikeyan on Apr 30, 2007 11:09 AM Permalink
I think, now you can see in Tamilnadu that all kind of people are in good place which is not the case before 30-40 years.Also Tamilians known to be performing well with Bengalis in India.So who made this change.
RE:RE:Periyar
by Crazy Human on Apr 30, 2007 11:15 AM Permalink
What is the great thing about Tamil Nadu. Chennai gets lots of funds for infrastructure activities because it is a metro. Also for the IT revolution we have to thank the telugu people and Bangalore city. CHennai is far behind and I have never heard any non-tamil wanting to settle down in Tamil Nadu.
RE:RE:Periyar
by Vaithi on Apr 30, 2007 11:38 AM Permalink
You moron.. You cant accept the growth of your own people . In TN ,they accept the real skill and they promote the real skilled people. In industry or cini field or politics or what ever so. For example Rajini is super star in cini field.. Only one time his voice was echoed in TN politics. But he was not good enough to stand in politics.There after the people ignored him . How come most of the industry set up is going on in tamilnadu even you are considering rest of the india is brillient ahead of tamil nadu. ? Dont be jelous of your own country men. Be proud of it. In TN , there is no history of bashing about other language people or so. Learn first. then speak
RE:Periyar
by bhuvanesh mar on Apr 30, 2007 11:24 AM Permalink
It shows your ineptness in software industry, More than 40 % of S/w Engineers in Bangalore are Tamils,. Less than 20 % collectively belong from North India, Other are from Andhra/Kerala. Ask Anyone from Bangalore. Tamil Nadu is in the peak, It is developing far better than any other States in India,
RE:Periyar
by mariappan on Apr 30, 2007 11:35 AM Permalink
My friend you are contradicting yourself, if tamil nadu is in its peak, why do 40% of all software engineers in bangalore come from tamil nadu. You have unwittingly let the cat out of the bag. Tamil nadu is not developing economically but is living on the remittances of people working elsewhere. Seems like tamil nadu is keen on following its south western neighbour.Now dont tell me there was a need in bangalore and so they came.
RE:Periyar
by Jeya Shree on Apr 30, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
I think tamil nadu is improved better when comapre to other state. If peiyar was thetre, other state also come in better.
RE:RE:Periyar
by mariappan on Apr 30, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
yes jeyashree, the only state you have keerapatti's and pappapatti is tamil nadu, where even after 4 decades of dravidian party rule, constitutionally reserved panchayat posts remain vacant. That is sure not going to happen in any other state including bihar.
RE:Periyar
by Senthil Gounder on Apr 30, 2007 11:18 AM Permalink
Gujarat & Rajasthan have zero deficient budget this year.. is it because of periyar?
Periyar advocated that women should throw their husband away and instead should choose any male of her choice to live -in. If she doesnt like him, then she should easily throw him and find others. Chastity is something considered as backward by him, and he advocated the women to mate with any one they wanted. Are you ready to follow him? or in that sense, have his own family followed it?
RE:Periyar
by tharun on Apr 30, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
Economically tamilnadu may be better, that is not because of Periyar. It is because Tamilnadu got Madras/Chennai from British era. But still standard of actual tamils are not improved. Most of the business are managed by tamils, most of the doctors and engineers are also not tamils.
RE:Periyar
by tharun on Apr 30, 2007 11:13 AM Permalink
I meant Most of the business are managed by non-tamils, most of the doctors and engineers are also not tamils.
