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religion ?
by Top Gun on Jun 30, 2008 04:23 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

A politician has no religion and that includes Bush, Obama, Advani, Sonia, Manmohan, Musharraf, Ahmadinejad and all the rest.

People who think otherwise are fools and most are.

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RE:religion ?
by Dhruba Chakravarti on Jun 30, 2008 06:16 AM  Permalink
Perhaps you woke up on the wrong side of bed. Bush has no religion??? Just in case you did not know, Sonia, Manmohan and Musharraf are anti-Hindus.

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RE:religion ?
by Loan Shark on Jun 30, 2008 06:40 AM  Permalink
I think he means that they have no "one" religion at election time.

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Re: religion ?
by Herman Hermit on Oct 29, 2008 08:10 PM  Permalink
and what about advani and co.they are anti every body else.lol

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RE:religion ?
by NdnMan on Jun 30, 2008 05:42 AM  Permalink
Amen to that my friend!

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I wonder
by Mathew Mathews on Jun 30, 2008 04:03 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

i want to know what all those stupid "pseudo" nationalist will say now. Now that Obama has a hanuman as one of his lucky charm has them going "gaga". What connection has it to India. There is a lady in India who has sacrificed more for India than Obama has and they cant get over that she comes from outside and India and cant connect to her. All these hypocrites, hats off to them. Obama is not to going to convert to Hinduism and if he is going to flaunt all these multi religion in the presidential race he is not going to win. All these "pseudo" desi's should know that America is a Christian Nation adn you are here because its so. If American's demanded that loyalty is proved by he same yardstick by which RSS,VHP and BJP think all others in India should prove, then it would be fun. You will have a lot of penniless fools going back to India. They stay in America make money and then bash christians. Idiots. My country India is much better than all these idiots combined. We dont need you. We will be the best with out you.

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RE:I wonder
by Sameer on Jun 30, 2008 04:39 AM  Permalink
No one is against secular Christians. The problem is with rapture expecting, doomsday loving, my-way or high-way, bible thumping ignorami.

BTW, US is not a Christian nation- it is a nation where majority are Christians like India is a country where majority are Hindus though it is not a Hindu nation.

On Sonia's so called sacrifice. Only people who have sacrificed are Rajiv Gandhi, Indira Gandhi, Scindhia, Pilot..what has Sonia sacrificed? Sonia wants to usurp power in India because she just happened to marry Rajiv Gandhi. She has no other qualifications. No one has a problem with Indian Christians who know about India, know its people and problems.
Had a Hindu been trying to usurp power in USA, the way Sonia is doing in India, you would have been shouting murder.

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RE:I wonder
by peter Ska on Jun 30, 2008 05:55 AM  Permalink
Well said sameer,

Sonia should be graceful, grateful to (1) Rajiv gandhi, who gave a air hostess a chance to experience the nobility of lifehood.

..(2) And to indians who allowed her to rule them.

But in return she has nothing to pay back...

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RE:RE:I wonder
by Loan Shark on Jun 30, 2008 06:51 AM  Permalink
sonia is leading the party in power ... BJP wallahs have nothing on her except for her foreign origin and her religion ... they target the same thing over and over again ... so, what has advani done for India? nothing .... oh yeah, as Home minister he released terrorists in kandahar ... and yes, he praised Jinnah to woo muslim votes ... and yes, he loves going on rath yatra because petrol is so expensive ... and yes, he cries at amir khan's movie on dyslexic kids

what else has that nautankee master done?

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RE:I wonder
by Money tvs on Jun 30, 2008 10:25 AM  Permalink
but unlike Sonia boot lickers. BJP does does not keep harping on the so called sacrifices. What sacrifice are you talking about, she's has in fact gained a lot. A middle class girl from an obscure town in italy, now being idolized by sycophants, you call that sacrifice.

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Re: I wonder
by Herman Hermit on Oct 29, 2008 08:12 PM  Permalink
Sonia did not userp power.Remember those incidents outside her home when hindus wanted her and nobody else to lead congress and the nation too?

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RE:I wonder
by Loan Shark on Jun 30, 2008 06:48 AM  Permalink
Sonia has sacrificed her husband.

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RE:I wonder
by Sameer on Jun 30, 2008 07:06 AM  Permalink
more aptly killed her husband

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RE:I wonder
by jaya krishnan on Jun 30, 2008 07:25 AM  Permalink
watch your words dumbo or I will come over there and crush you like an insect that you is. Beware !

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RE:I wonder
by Loan Shark on Jun 30, 2008 07:23 AM  Permalink
naah ... she was far far away from Rajiv when he died ... Rajiv, as we know was killed by a suicide bomber.

No sane person would say that Sonia killed Rajiv or orchestrated the killing, or hired the hitman ... but then you are not sane and so it's kinda expected that you would make that wild allegation.

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RE:RE:I wonder
by Money tvs on Jun 30, 2008 10:29 AM  Permalink
Better check the janatha party web site. all you ignorant psycophants

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RE:RE:I wonder
by Money tvs on Jun 30, 2008 10:26 AM  Permalink
Yeah She sacrificed her husband, to gain what???

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americans no longer monotheist
by Pradip Parekh on Jun 30, 2008 03:07 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

a recent survey of americans showed that the overwhelming majority of americans now believe any form of worship is kegitimate and will lead to god realization. thanks to hindu nri, america is changing. this is at a time when india is going the wrong way under gandhis who are busy promoting monotheism in india.

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RE:americans no longer monotheist
by Loan Shark on Jun 30, 2008 03:58 AM  Permalink
no one is promoting monotheism in India ... you are mistaken.

as for Americans they have always taken nicley to others suggestions ... they are not big worshippers anyway ... Obama is keeping Hanuman idol as a good luck charm, it's not that he has started worshipping hanuman, as you seem to take it to be.

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An Insult to our intellegence
by swamy on Jun 30, 2008 02:29 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I consider it an insult if one says we support Obama because he has a small hanuman idol..what BS reporting from Rediff

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RE:An Insult to our intellegence
by Loan Shark on Jun 30, 2008 04:00 AM  Permalink
abhee weekend purr news nahee hoti naa ... I mean there were no natural disasters this weekend, no deaths of VIPs .... toh rediff ko masala chahiye naa

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RE:An Insult to our intellegence
by Mahesh on Jun 30, 2008 05:47 AM  Permalink
It was reported in Washington Post, go blame them.

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Rich Americans of Indian Origin
by Calspadeaspade on Jun 30, 2008 12:40 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

They are all going to vote Republican no matter who. They are all thinking Tax. No matter who comes to power we have never paid less tax. Govt has a way of collecting what they want. One republican governer of New Jersey increased the property tax while promising tax cuts in state tax. REpublicans run election on Tax cut and security. Both of them were under doldrums after they come to power. Democrates have to fix it like Bill Clinton did. He fixed a huge buget deficit created by Regan. Made positive changes to welfare programs. We expect Obama to do the same. High time US had a brainy President instead of jingoistic republican dumbos.

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RE:Rich Americans of Indian Origin
by Loan Shark on Jun 30, 2008 02:02 AM  Permalink
Warren Buffet is supporting Obama, you can't get richer than that ... granted he not an Indian but in USA not every rich guy votes republican.

Obama has promised that his tax plan will save money for those families earning under 250k/yr

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RE:OBAMA IDIOT...JUST SAYING U R A CHRISTIAN DOES NOT MEAN U R A CHRISTIAN... U SHOULD NOT CARRY INFIDELS LIKE THIS..U WILL LOOSE FOR SURE..AMERICA WONT B WITH U..
by rajesh khanna on Jun 30, 2008 12:39 AM  Permalink
Hi Believer ,
Before u comment about Monkey - God, just rememeber that when incidents of past are recollected, they take mythical undertones if it is very much in the past -

The Vanars or hanuman was part of an ancient tribe called Vaynars, who lived in South India and had apish features - they were not really monkeys !

Finally, about Ram - the truth of his existence is found in historical places like ayodhya, kishkinda, chitrakoot, his deeds have astronomical and genealogical proof !
(I dont know which hindu says he did not exist !)

Finally, WHAT DO U KNOW ABOUT JESUS FROM AGE 1 - 32 ?
does that mean he did not exist ?
Are u sure its his grave in church of holy sepulchre ?
THINK !

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by rajesh khanna on Jun 30, 2008 12:48 AM  Permalink
As fr your comment regarding whether the mountain was really carried or not, please read the following link and decide :

zeenewsDOTcom/articlesDOTasp?aid=406059&archisec=ZNS (Replace DOT with .)

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by rajesh khanna on Jun 30, 2008 01:00 AM  Permalink
Writing in Capitals doesnt make u correct, does it ?

I have spoken on the basis of logic - and do u think the views of communists like chatterjee really matters ?
I have posted below in this thread why Ram and his existence is IRREFUTABLE !

And when you quote Vivekananda, also research about the aspect of Advaitism practised by him and preached by Shankaracharya - it has roots in Bhagvat Gita and concept of Paramatma (Supreme Soul) and Karma - thats the essence of hinduism ...

Finally, about Ram Setu, do u really want to start a debate on that - I can decimate u !
PS I live in a rural area called Manhattan!
The rent I pay just for my home is more than your entire family's salary

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by rajesh khanna on Jun 30, 2008 12:54 AM  Permalink

PROOF OF RAM

Valmiki did not write Ramayan, he NARRATED it ... he was alive during the time of Ramayan, in fact Ram's sons - Luv and Kush were born in his ashrama , the Sage Valmiki met Ram, Sita, Hanuman - all the characters ...

Plus the proof of ram is all over India in the form of geographically annotated places like Ayodhya, Chitrakoot, Kishkinda, Rameswaram ...

(even Ram Setu - you should refer to the report by Geological Survey of India, which was presented before Madras High Court and it ruled that Ram Setu was man-made, in the Supreme Court WITHOUT ANY EXCAVATIONS, the ASI said it was natural - thus the controversy - anyway, new excavations will take place and the truth will prevail)

But since these events took place 6500 years ago (yes, recent astronomical studies pin-point the exact dates) people started identifying these as mythology more than History !

do u know there is a great controversy whether Jesus was born on 1 AD or 4 AD (So the farther back u go, the more blurred the details become)

But that does not take away the historicity of Ramayan or Mahabharat!

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In fact there is more historical proof of Ram then there is of Prophet Abraham actually ever visiting Mecca to make the Kabbah (the VERY BASIS of haj) or for the fact that Adam and Eve ever lived or Muhammed went on a donkey to al aqsa


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by rajesh khanna on Jun 30, 2008 01:03 AM  Permalink

RAM SETU IS INDEED MAN-MADE !

That was the conclusion based on the scientific study made BY Geological Survey of India and which was tabled before the High Court of Madras, which declared it man-made ...
This study did actual excavations, the ASI report did not do any excavations ... how can that report be accepted ?

The GSI study concluded on the basis of 3 facts ....
1) the sedimented rocks on ram setu are of different origin than the sea-bed rocks
2) the rocks are similar to that part of the coast of rameswaram from where it was said in Valimiki Ramayan that the rocks were brought by Hanuman and his army
3) these Rocks have a more sharp edges, showing that chiselling or some form of human modification was done before putting the rocks there! (in ramayan, its mentioned that Nal & Neel were 2 members of the army who actually worked on these stones before depositing them)

Cant these be accepted as irrefutable proof : geographical evidence matching with said history ! WHAT MORE PROOF RATIONALISTS WANT ?????

Such coherent proof is not found to proof that Muhammed indeed went to Jerusalme flying on a donkey ! Such coherent proof is not found to proof that Saint Jesus Christ is indeed buried at the Church built by Constatntine' mother !

WHY CANT WE CONSIDER THE PROOF THAT GSI PRESENETD TO MADRAS COURT ?
IF REQUIRED, GO FOR ANOTHER EXCAVATION AND REPEAT THE PROCEDURE IN FULL PUBLIC GLARE AND SCRUTINY !
SHRI RAM'S HISTORICITY WOULD AGAIN BE RE-AFFIRMED !


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by rajesh khanna on Jun 30, 2008 01:04 AM  Permalink

Please refer to this link:

kalyan97DOTwordpressDOTcom/2007/08/01/492/
replace DOT with .

why are the congress/ commies/karuna hindi shying away from asking ASI to conduct excavations ?

They know that the truth about ram setu being man-made will be proved !

The resultant Hindu political tsunami will wash them away (there will be no setu to help them )

PS PLEASE ANSWER BACK LOGICALLY AND WITHOUT ABUSES, THANKS


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by Rajendra Rao on Jun 30, 2008 08:00 AM  Permalink
Good for you Rakesh. I am tired of idiots like Raymond et al- who believe in Genesis (bible says so), Noah's BS ark, and such. His religion (cult) is the best I am told- people die for it (the guy he worships was surely nailed never to rise again). I bet my last dollar that he never comes back again.

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by Anil L. Siqueira on Jun 30, 2008 10:03 AM  Permalink
Khanna,
There is no "controversy", as you put it, about Jesus' birth year. Incidentally, just because a doubt is raised do not render it controversial.
First, Jesus was not born in 1 AD. The year, for your information, would be O, not BC or AD.
Second, it's not 4 AD, but 4 BC.
Third, you are mistaken. It's anytime between 4 BC and 6 BC.
Fourth, scholars know how the mistake arose. A thousand years ago, people did not have the means we have today of calculating dates. Or the scholarship to examine documents.
With time, we learn many new things (in different fields) that impinge on our cherished notions. And then we (not all of us) do not want to give up our cherished notions. After all, how can we? We have "believed" them for 30, 40 50, 60 years. How can we have the honesty to say we were wrong.
So what if the GSI declared something. So what if "actual excavations" were done. (Your quote of "actual excavations" seems to be used to browbeat us.) Actual excavations aren't the only means of proof. Newer methods of looking into something might throw up a different perspective. You don't seem to consider all these aspects. And that betrays your prejudice.

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All the fundie Indian American Bible thumpers in US are for McCain
by Sameer on Jun 29, 2008 10:44 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Before that, they were for right winger Mike Huckabee.
They don't like blacks- even more than race- conscious whites.

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RE:All the fundie Indian American Bible thumpers in US are for McCain
by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 10:47 PM  Permalink
ok ... so what's yr point ... this is democracy ... even in India the staunch Hindus vote for BJP ... some call them communal, others call them the savior of Hindus

this is what happens in democracy .. everyone gets a vote, you vote your choice and don't have to give any reason.

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RE:All the fundie Indian American Bible thumpers in US are for McCain
by tajender on Jun 29, 2008 11:22 PM  Permalink
loanshark.i can accept these wicked chamoleons as communal but they r pervert&homosexual as well apart from financial thieves.

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RE:All the fundie Indian American Bible thumpers in US are for McCain
by shaker on Jun 29, 2008 11:33 PM  Permalink
Tajender that means you know your grand parents, Good!

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RE:All the fundie Indian American Bible thumpers in US are for McCain
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jun 30, 2008 12:09 AM  Permalink
your grand parents you mean ....even your grand mother .. oh boy... how abt ur parents .. i mean ur mom??? ...lol..sucker ....u r a blott on the rat shi-t!

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RE:All the fundie Indian American Bible thumpers in US are for McCain
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jun 29, 2008 11:58 PM  Permalink
the rediff Sucker lot

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RE:All the fundie Indian American Bible thumpers in US are for McCain
by Sameer on Jun 29, 2008 10:52 PM  Permalink
If all the Hindus were voting for BJP, they would be in power perpetually.

But the topic here is related to American president. Lets focus on Bible thumping Rhesus Monkeys who elected Bush and pushing it towards third world status.

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RE:All the fundie Indian American Bible thumpers in US are for McCain
by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 10:56 PM  Permalink
I said staunch Hindus ... not every Hindu ... read carefully. not every Hindu is a staunch Hindu.

I was only pointing at the similarity between India and the US when it comes to religion in politics ... so that you would understand easily with an analogy.

But if you choose to be ignorant for life, is that my problem? ... LOL

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RE:All the fundie Indian American Bible thumpers in US are for McCain
by Sameer on Jun 29, 2008 11:02 PM  Permalink
Even 'staunch' Hindus don't vote for BJP. It used to get 2% votes. It is only when Co0ngress started screwing big time, BJP vote share increased.

In 1984, BJP got 2 seats. All the 'staunch' Hindus voted for Congress.

Sharky, you always show your ignorance and prejudice.

Lets talk about American Indian Rhesus Monkeys. You think they would vote for Obama because he 'worships idol'?

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RE:All the fundie Indian American Bible thumpers in US are for McCain
by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 11:11 PM  Permalink
oh ... BTW, did you hear McCain's stand on nuclear energy?

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RE:All the fundie Indian American Bible thumpers in US are for McCain
by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 11:06 PM  Permalink
In 1984 BJP was not seen as a Hindu Party ... it has become a Hindu party since Advani took up Babri Masjid issue around the late 80s

you have no idea about India's political system

American Indian Rhesus Monkeys? where did you make that from ... it's Indian American, Cuban American, Mexican American, African American

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RE:All the fundie Indian American Bible thumpers in US are for McCain
by Calspadeaspade on Jun 30, 2008 01:03 AM  Permalink
Not necessarily. Even non staunch HIndus vote for BJP. People who hate congress, commies and super liberals. Some staunch RSS people have voted congress.

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October surprise!
by Rajendra Rao on Jun 29, 2008 10:02 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

McCain and his Bible-thumping Republican cronies will covertly bomb a city in USA in October. All of a sudden, McCain will be popular as a war hero, and republicans invariably will win with a threat of terrorism- end of story.

Remember Iran hostage crisis- Reagan made a pact with Iranians not to release the American hostages until after the elections in November. Reagan won over Carter, became popular, now is he considered next only to Jesus- God like Reagan who slept on the job, sent 300 marines to their death in Lebanon, gave canned Hollywood speeches, now he is God.

This is democracy in USA- and Bush want to export democracy to other countries.

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RE:October surprise!
by Truth BeTold on Jun 29, 2008 10:11 PM  Permalink
How much ever interesting your story is, American democracy is 100 times better than the sham democracy in India where people dont have any rights and are treated as second class citizens in their own country.

For your information, Reagan was also instrumental in ending the cold war in America's favor and improving the economy. I will give American people more credit than that. I am sure they will choose the right person for the job.

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RE:October surprise!
by Sameer on Jun 29, 2008 11:06 PM  Permalink
Really? How?
America is a better administered country but not a better deomcracy. If you knew the real story, you won't be making such unreal claims.
Do you know how many senators win without contesting?
The number used be as high as Russian Duma of good old Soviet Empire days. Now it has decreased a little.

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RE:October surprise!
by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 11:16 PM  Permalink
USA is the best democracy in the world.

anyone who disagrees with that is jealous of America and is giving his opinion which is nothing more than just an opinion.

USA - land of the free and home of the brave!

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RE:October surprise!
by Sameer on Jun 29, 2008 11:38 PM  Permalink
You watch too much of CNN teevee.
Land of the free- with no rights to Habeas corpus and 2 million in prison. Thousands in prison on framed up charges. Many getting released after languishing in jail for decades for the crime they never committed, thanks to DNA tests.


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RE:October surprise!
by Loan Shark on Jun 30, 2008 01:58 AM  Permalink
LOL ... you are sofa king ignorant that's it's not even funny ... DNA testing came recently, not some 20 years ago when some of these were sentenced to life in prison ... then comes DNA testing and court determines that witness testimony is not supported by the DNA results ... so, they are let go. At least the court system works in the USA.

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by Pritish Nagaraj on Jun 30, 2008 12:02 AM  Permalink
do u have kids ... they might enjoy this !! .. actually my son is reading this and laughing right now !!

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by Loan Shark on Jun 30, 2008 02:00 AM  Permalink
nakraj, your son can laugh all day and all night and who cares for the rest of his life

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RE:October surprise!
by Rajendra Rao on Jun 29, 2008 10:17 PM  Permalink
Democratic ideals are fine, as long as the populace is well-educated. Not in USA. Bush 1st election: Jeb Bush was the governor of Florida, made sure the Balcks were turned back from voting by the police in Florida- Bush won. 2nd time, the Bible-thumpers in Ohio cast the final vote to re-elect this idiot.

This is after 200 years of democratic tradition in USA!

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by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 10:23 PM  Permalink
all these are conspiracy theories .. no one was turned away .. yes if they show up at the wrong polling station, they have to go to the right place to vote.

AlGore and Kerry accepted defeat graciously.

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RE:October surprise!
by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 10:22 PM  Permalink
these are all conspiracy theories ... the election results came close in Florida and so all these made up theories of people being turned away from the polling station ... if someone goes to the wrong poling station, they ought to be turned away. You just cannot go to any polling booth and cast yr vote. Bush won fair and square both the times.

Gore and Kerry (sen from MA) accepted defeat graciously .. but you are stil sore. Why?

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RE:October surprise!
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jun 30, 2008 12:00 AM  Permalink
lol ... u call others cospiracy and u throw one of ur own !! ROFL

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RE:October surprise!
by Truth BeTold on Jun 29, 2008 10:23 PM  Permalink
Yes but these 200 years have also worked in USA's favor. Democracy may not be the perfect way of administration but its the lesser of known Devils. At least, people are responsible for their own actions and have a chance to correct the course of it, the way they will do it in these upcoming elections in US. If autocracy worked, Pakistan would be way ahead of India by now. Regarding China, it only lets you see what it wants you to see. Huge swaths of Chinse rural areas are poverty stricken and have no access to the world audience. Democracy at least let you see the reality.

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RE:October surprise!
by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 10:13 PM  Permalink
LOL ... McCain bomb a US city? that war hero who underwent torture in vietnam will boimba US city .. you are out of your mind.

Reagan in deed was a better administrator than Carter .... no doubt he won ... In fact GB senior won because of Reagan.

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by Rajendra Rao on Jun 29, 2008 10:23 PM  Permalink
Many (like you) do not bother to look up McCain's navy 'career'. Here is a write up from a Navy man:

arclightzero.wordpressdotcom/2008/02/02/mccains-military-career/

insert .' rather than 'dot'

As for the cold war and Reagan- Russia would have ended anyway, irrespective of Reagan or not- he did not deserve the credit.

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RE:RE:RE:October surprise!
by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 10:27 PM  Permalink
you will never give credit where deserved .. but then, that's your problem not mine.

Reagan was the one who led Soviets to the point where they had no choice but to bring down the berlin wall and disintegrate into pieces themselves and end the cold war.

Reagan deserves full credit ... whether an unknown like you likes it or not.

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RE:October surprise!
by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 10:50 PM  Permalink
quote "Gulf war (Bush senoir is the war hero); current Afghan war and Iraq war (Bush junoir and Dick are the heros): All despicable acts by stupid politicians."

Bush (father and son) are not war heroes ... no one calls them war heros for being president during those wars .. McCain fought in vietnam, he was captured, he was tortured .... that makes him a war hero.

You have no idea who a war hero is. Like I said you are a warehouse of misinformation.


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RE:October surprise!
by Rajendra Rao on Jun 29, 2008 10:46 PM  Permalink
'War heros' are over-rated, Loan Shark- take it from me. All these so-called wars were not necessary- The Korean War (and the war heros); the Vietnam War (and the war heros like Kerry and McCain); Gulf war (Bush senoir is the war hero); current Afghan war and Iraq war (Bush junoir and Dick are the heros): All despicable acts by stupid politicians.

Look at Reagan the idiot's record- He slept during Iran- contra affair, promoted good 'relations' with Saddam because Iraq was at war with Iran; promoted Osama and Taliban in the covert war against the Soviets in Afghanistan. End result due to ALL these stupid politicians; Trillions of dollars lost,lives lost, countries ruined.

I am a true citizen of the world, I do not put any of these stupid self-promoting donkey politicians on a pedestal.

In a a true democracy:elected leaders should not be given royalty-like treatment: such as building libraries for them, building monuments after them, etc.This is all stupid.

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by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 10:53 PM  Permalink
Reagan did what Reagan considered right ... you have to choose your friends and you choose your enemies .. 20 years later, you find that your choice wasn't right ... then what do you do?

you, citizen of the world have no right to compolain unless you can put yourself in their shoes ... you just have a compalaining attitude .. not a desire to go find facts and analyze what went wrong and if the decision then was a right one.

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RE:October surprise!
by jay krishnan on Jun 30, 2008 07:54 AM  Permalink
Loan shark, You are indeed the most pathetic specimen of western boot licker that I have come across in a long time. All for what ? Because you or your people were oppurtunistic enough to convert and now share the same religious beliefs with westerners ? So you lost all sense of ancestrol history or even that skin or race and the face that you have inherited ? That's very low for any religion. Even many westerners are honourable enough to admit this. That this is so low. Do you agree ?

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RE:October surprise!
by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 11:09 PM  Permalink
cynical is the right word from you ... I didn't want to say it myself ... but since you admit it .. I'd say that you are right.

Don't make fun of Reagan's Alzeimer. You and I could get that. You are now hitting him below the belt ... just shows your upbringing.

Are you the smartest of them all? then why did you invest it all in stock market and lose it all? that today you have to beg and borrow and even consider relocating to China. LOL

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RE:October surprise!
by Rajendra Rao on Jun 29, 2008 11:04 PM  Permalink
I have become cynical Loan shark- All these jazz about how great Amerrican democracy is- and at the same time, Blacks were treated like animals for years. Looks like you are like a Swamiji- no complainsta about anything. As for me- no person deserves to be put on a pedestal and worshipped- like Reagan is.

Did I not mention Reagan's stupid war on Grenada..Lol.. The guy died of Alzeimer's. What a justice for a guy who acted 8 years in the white house.

All these politicians are stupid bunch.. They lack the IQ, and people who vote for them lack IQ. I am staying home and watching 3 -stooges on election day.

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by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 10:25 PM  Permalink
I don't have to ... because I don't want to be a victim of this false propaganda and conspiracy theories .... I know that he was a war hero ... he was tirtured in Vietnam.

He make not make a great administrator or maybe he would .. but we all know that he is a great american.

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VOTE FOR CHANGE..NO MCSAME NEEDED
by ebguy on Jun 29, 2008 09:55 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

NRIs If you are eligile to VOTE..VOTE FOR CHANGE..Only If Bobby Jindal can understand it..He is being used as a pawn..We will see where he will be in few years..Probably with his own talk show. Pavanputra Hanuman Bhgavan ki Kripa Obama per Hai :)

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by ebguy on Jun 29, 2008 10:48 PM  Permalink
Oye, even I am learning something here..Did not know a guy whose parents came from Punjab has converted to being a Catholic..Thats the reason I post..To learn new thingsNo wonder he seems an odd guy out..Don't take me wrong he seems sharp who needs some GPS to find a right way home ;)..AND GUYS WATCH FAREED ZAKARIA ON GLOBAL PUBLIC SQUARE RIGHT NOW ON CNN..LOAN SHARK you will learn world affairs..I remember your previuos post..I can promote you too :))

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by Sameer on Jun 29, 2008 11:26 PM  Permalink
Fareed Zakaria- another empty suit and smooth talker without substance. He shows it is so easy to fool Americans.

His famous article just before Iraq war when Bush was asked to ponder before jumping into fire, I am paraphrasing- 'if you have taken the sword out, you have to use it'--urging Bush to war.
And the consequences are here for everyone to see. Now he kind of plays with words that he was not for the war---yada yada yada..

Now he comes on CNN and public television--well they deserves him.

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by ebguy on Jun 29, 2008 11:36 PM  Permalink
Sameer so you mean to say Bush went to war because Fareeds one article? He wasn't the one who authorized the war. He is indeed smooth & sharp with different view points. Sameer I hope you understand the reason why unnecessary Iraq war happened if you follow political circumstances here and its definitely not due to Fareeds artcle.Common you know that!!

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by Sameer on Jun 29, 2008 11:42 PM  Permalink
I am not saying the war happened becuase of him..where did you get that from?

I am just marvelling at this 'genius' Fareed and his understanding of the world. Anyone with open mind and little bit of knowledge could have predicted exactly what is unfolding now.

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by ebguy on Jun 30, 2008 08:29 AM  Permalink
Can you please tell me as to when the decision was made to go to war In Iraq? If you follow politics here you would know the right answer.

Its not Fareed Zakarias understanding of the world its about us watching different opinions on variuos current affairs in the world. Also, Can you please mention any other program may be excpet BBC and PBS(NOW) that covers Global Perspective on TV in USA? We cant be fooled so easily.

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by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 11:03 PM  Permalink
Good for you that you are learning stuff here .... Jindal converted when he was in High school .. he must have liked something about christianity to do so. He wasn't forced with a gun to do so.

Religion is a personal thing ... your faith is totally yours and it's your choice ... we should respect everyone else's faith.

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by ebguy on Jun 29, 2008 11:09 PM  Permalink
I have nothing against him converting to any religion. But my question to you is are you watching Fareed On GPS? :)
..AND Don't forget to VOTE FOR CHANGE SHARKMAN


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RE:VOTE FOR CHANGE..NO MCSAME NEEDED
by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 11:12 PM  Permalink
what is fareed on GPS?

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RE:VOTE FOR CHANGE..NO MCSAME NEEDED
by ebguy on Jun 29, 2008 11:17 PM  Permalink
SHARKMAN that depends where are you located. Fareed Zakaria GPS is an unbiased news program running on CNN where you get to view Global perspective on International affairs.Very Interesting Program.

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by Rajendra Rao on Jun 29, 2008 10:05 PM  Permalink
Bobby Jindal- converted Catholic boy who spits on Hindus and Indians. Pleaselet us not mention the name of this despicable convreted rat.

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by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 10:17 PM  Permalink
Bobby Jindal's faith is his personal preference. There is freedom of religion in the US as it is in India. Jindal converted when he was in High school .. and no one held a gun to his head to do so.

He is a catholic, he believes in catholisism but he has never spit on Hundus or insulted Hinduism. Never!

Rao, You are a warehouse of misinformation.

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by Rajendra Rao on Jun 29, 2008 10:38 PM  Permalink
You are a funny guy, Loan Shark- Yes, I admit Jindal's himage to jesus is not my business- But it is a fact that he does not want to be associated with Desis. So much so, he did nothing about the 3 Indians students murdered in his own city. As a Governor, he could have shown some interest.

By the way, I am wearing a dhoti, and yes, somewhere in Andhra and typing this away... perhaps from a warehouse, which coounts for the good 'information'...?

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by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 10:43 PM  Permalink
who told you that he doesn't want to be associated with desies? he wife is a desn .. I think .... I ma sure that his parents are desies too ... perhaps her inlaws too ... so, what's to suggest that he doesn't like desis

Of course you cannot expect him to be surrounded by desies all the time... he is the gov. of Louisiana after all ... he cannot just appoint a desi to every position in his cabinet ... can he?

the guy is fair, he is doing his job and he never said that he is ashamed of his Indian heritage or Indian parents. Did he?

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by Rajendra Rao on Jun 29, 2008 10:56 PM  Permalink
Loan Shark- Please talk with Bobby Jindal's parents- they are besides themselves for their son converting into a dead-guy worshipping rat! See how they view their way-ward son who forshake Hinduism.

In your logic- if a guy leaves his mother and adopts another lady as his mom, that is not spittingon his mother? Same logic applies here for casting Hinduism away-- that is to me like spitting on all Hindus.

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by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 11:01 PM  Permalink
1. I don't have any connections to find and speak with Jindal's parents .... besides, I have no desire or see any commanality of interest with them old people.

2. Switching mom's is different. Even though Lord Krishna had two mothers ... he did not mean disrespect to his biological mother.

Adopting religion is different. You and I folow Hinduism because we were born that way .. we never applied our mind to anything out there which can be better for us ... it's personal ... Jindal found his place in catholisism and he joined them ...

Jindal has never insulted Hindus or Hinduism ever. has he?

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RE:VOTE FOR CHANGE..NO MCSAME NEEDED
by HS girish on Jun 29, 2008 11:55 PM  Permalink
Yes.Jindal applied his mind well and embraced the benifits that comes with converting to catholisism. Why do'nt you also apply your mind for a better thing like him?Afterall who's stopping you? But do'nt try to preach others about what could better for them.

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