No other religion is as in-human as Hinduism, No other religion treats its own people like outsiders, No other religion has systematic cascading inequality, Go anywhere but leave this Brahmanical CULT %u2013 its not religion its CULT %u2013 cult of Brahmin hegemony %u2013 In this religion every word is written and approved by Brahmins, so there is no room for other section of the society %u2013 they are real culprits of retrieving India%u2019s caste-system. All Bahujan should have one slogan - Hate Brahmins! Hate Brahmins! Hate Brahmins! Be Muslim, Be Christian, Be Buddhist, - but leave this Brahmanical CULT . No Mukti (Nirvana), No Equality - only discrimination%u2026 that%u2019s what Hinduism is%u2026
RE:Brahmanical CULT = Hinduism
by vydhyanath s on Jun 04, 2007 07:46 PM Permalink
To hell with you and your message. Views of the nameless people is as good as 'bull shit'.
RE:Brahmanical CULT = Hinduism
by biz Narayan on Jun 04, 2007 07:46 PM Permalink
There are Sheela Bhats who wouldn;t write about the war against Jews. Rest all understands the conversion agenda of christists.
ravi, dont heart. it is the customery of the temple and its authority to purify the sanctrum either ravi enter or gandhi enter. if you so faithfull and devotee of god why dont you worship in your house itself and make the god your own asset.
I have to commiserate with the minister in his sentiments concerning the lamentable lack of religious tolerance around us. Yet iam sick and tired of people blaming every problem of discrimination on "Brahminical Arrogance". Iam a Brahmin myself and find it offensive and humiliating to be branded on the basios of things beyond my understanding or culpability. The scenario is worse in Tamil nadu, especially Chennai where i am often looked upon as a stranger in my own land. The affiliation i bear to my countyryu and people is often questionmed because of what my forebears probably did generations prior to my birth. Ultimately I feel just as harassed today as the so called "lower castes" did centuries ago. and if thats the situation currently iam not sure it can be called progress of any sort.
RE:Stop Branding Prejudiced People
by vydhyanath s on Jun 04, 2007 07:50 PM Permalink
Even their father cannot 'finish Brahmins'. If they try they will have to eat ...t.
RE:Stop Branding Prejudiced People
by biz Narayan on Jun 04, 2007 07:41 PM Permalink
Your forefathers prevented conversion of these people into christianity, the missionaries took that revenge and created dravidian racism.
RE:Stop Branding Prejudiced People
by Bihari Lalu on Jun 04, 2007 07:41 PM Permalink
They think brahmins have to suffer for their forefather's misdeeds
We broadminded Hindus must give Tamil Nadu style public sector reservations to SC/ST/BC/OBCs/Tribals and also give such reservations in PRIVATE SECTOR. Then nobody will convert to Christianity or Islam. It is very simple.
Swami Vivekanada had once said (on seeing the level of caste system) that the whole of Kerala is a mental asylum. Specifically, he said that upper caste hegemony was responsible for a whole lot of people moving away from Hinduism in this state. Now, does anyone wonder why Kerala is the only major Indian state (except J&K) which has a sizeable(>40%) non-Hindu population?
This issue is not about upper caste dominance, but it is the inability of a populace (dominant in temple affairs) to still see what Swami Vivekananda wanted to educate us a century ago.
RE:Someone saw this before
by keshav sharma on Jun 04, 2007 07:45 PM Permalink
True dear sir, can anyone tell us whats the hindu population in Saudi Arabia or why they are not let in even 7 km vicinity of that satanic stone in Mecca ??
I believe, in Guruvayur temple, if an infant or child dirties the place, the premises are cleaned and 'shuddi' is done; and the parents have to pay for it.
The visitors must learn to respect local traditions and must not willingly break the rules. Recently, three no hindu foreigners entered the Puri temple (they did it knowingly).
Since Nr. Ravi has faced a similar problem earlier with the temple authorities, he could have avoided the bitter experience and subsequent vitriolic attacks, by approaching the temple authorities.
Even for a simple meeting, you have to take permission from local police and politicians.
RE:Hindu Rituals Paramount
by Vishal on Jun 04, 2007 07:48 PM Permalink
I agree GK /// we take Hindu religion for granted and look for stories to show Hinduism in bad light .... u go to small towns and villages in india all religions live peacefully .have been living peacefully for at least 1000ys since muslims first arrive..not because Christanity/west taught us to live that way...it because of tolerant hindoo religion ..probelm my friend is that Christians and Muslim dont at least acknowledge that...It only india where religion does come in the way of becoming president /PM/CM...See US and UK ..in one country Catholic cant become Pres and in ouher a protestant ..no religion is perfect ,but all of them many good things to learn..and I hope other religions in India dont make religion a number game and respect each other customs and beliefs
RE:Hindu Rituals Paramount
by Libran on Jun 04, 2007 07:54 PM Permalink
Stop talking non-sense. To be a true hindu, you don't have to convert. Hinduism is a broad Dharma. It is very flexible. I don't see naming ceremony as 'dirtying a place', so there was no need for 'Shudhi'. Hinduism is a forward looking religion - It is never a stinking still-water. A few handful of people. If the laws of the temple are not changed, they have to be changed.
Of course, entry of other religion people is another matter. I am for allowing all, but some sanctity and more importantly security has to be maintained. If you allow all Mapillas to enter as a group, you don't know what their intentions are. But if they are coming as devotees or even as just a curious onlooker visiting to savor the amience of the temple they should be welcome.
RE:Hindu Rituals Paramount
by Sampath S on Jun 04, 2007 07:40 PM Permalink
I understand, any non-muslim enteing the town of mecca will lose his head. I sincerely wish that anyone will dispute this and say that it is not so.
It is well known that Guruvaiyur temple follows strict traditional approach that only those who have faith in Hindu religion visit the temple. Such an approach does not necessariliy undermine the secular fabric of the society in any way. Thus the temple has not been challenged to explain its practices in the past. In this particular incident, however, the temple authorities have hurt the sentiments of the family involved. In this age and time, it needs to be little more flexible. This however does not mean that the themple abondan all its pracitices, but simply handle devotees with little more sensivity. In this particular incident, it is also possible some priests might have taken the decisions unilaterally as well. There is no need get the courts involved nor toaccuse the brahmins of high handedness.
The family involved can have an open dialogue and there is certainly room for amicable settlement. I am sure things of thus nature happen in other faiths as well.
