Congress is losing all of its state .. now they barely have andra and maharastra, delhi .. they already lost election in punjab, uttranchal, Uttar pradesh, madyapradesh, rajasthan, bihar.. all major states .. so now they barely any state under there control ..
RE:loss
by Jaffer Ali on Dec 24, 2007 09:36 PM Permalink
Only regional parties will have future and major parties will join with them and thats the future of Indian politics. No one will get clear majority.
RE:loss
by on on Dec 24, 2007 09:40 PM Permalink
congress rules in major states - maharashtra, goa, andhra, karnataka(president's rule), tamil nadu, delhi, haryana, j&k
bjp rules in major states - gujarat, rajasthan, MP, chattisgarh, bihar, punjab, uttarakhand
looks like bjp is ruling on an average in more backward states of india.
RE:loss
by mahesh sawant on Dec 24, 2007 09:45 PM Permalink
wash u r brain .. idiot presidential rule is not congress ruled.. and in Tamil nadu .. its only dmk, and goa is not a major state of India
RE:loss
by on on Dec 24, 2007 10:10 PM Permalink
oh says the idiot who otherwise would have not held his tounge one bit by describing president's rule as sonia's own rule in the state...fyi one can't wash brains..one can fix brains which i think u need to do quick...
RE:RE:loss
by DR Kumar on Dec 24, 2007 09:58 PM Permalink
also himachal election result will seemes to be in favor of bjp as expected on 28th .. well but i request you all not to use cheap vocablary like 'fool' etc under constrant of information on a person..
Instead of giving up a moral hight ground and supporting the corrupt 'rebel leaders', the BJP leadership struck with the corruption free and bold leader Mr. Modi. The BJP rebel leaders who were as corrupt as the Congressi leaders lost the elections whereas the honest Modi won. Going forward all the political parties should support corruption free leaders and not give way to the loud and vociforous corrupt leaders who switch parties, are boot lickers, claim to represent only a few castes and fight the elections as 'rebels', on being denied the party ticket. Any party/leader that loves India should support corruption free, development minded, ethical leaders like Mr. Modi. Gujarat leads, India follows, and I am not even a Gujarati but I still say this.
Answer me without any bias if the BJP has not opposed Muslims will they get vote? so see their credibility, they too are doing the vote bank politics, correct? DIVIDE AND RULE, they got it from British.
RE:BJP and Vote bank politics
by on on Dec 24, 2007 09:29 PM Permalink
its dravidian politics in TN, dalit politics in UP and Bihar and communal politics in Gujarat. Congress is a loser since these kind of politics has come in these regions. nore that dravidian politics started in 60s in TN after which congress has never come to power there, same will be true in gujarat also now. till a congress leader emerges who is able to break the shackles of regional politics and cut across religious, caste and north-south lines, the situation will remain the same.
RE:BJP and Vote bank politics
by ASHOK on Dec 24, 2007 09:49 PM Permalink
gentle men look back in time. In gujrat Hindu Muslim riots were started By Congress CM Mr Chiman Bhai Patel.
KHAM ( Kashtriaya / Harijan/ Adivasi / Muslim) Vote bank was masterminded by Mr Madhav Singh Solanki.
Congress id Doctrate in Vote Bank Politics and BJP is still at Under Grad level.
Also note this time WHO opposed MODI >>
RSS as well as VHP and many other Hardliner Hindu out fits and MODI gave a Damn to them.
This clearly shows MODI has carved a way out to work without VOTE BANK POLITICS.
If he survives militant attacks as well as Congress art of Breaking BJP ( Vagela style)
Than Gujrat will give a new way out to whole of Indian Public to emulate.
RE:RE:BJP and Vote bank politics
by ASHOK on Dec 24, 2007 09:54 PM Permalink
Moderate Muslims in Gujrat are doing fine. They are educating their children and sending them to good schools.
Muslim boys are not at all loitering on the streets , they are working as hard as any one else.
Muslim Girls are equally well competing in the schools.
This is my preception from the feedback I get from Son & Daughter.
I believe Gujrat Muslims will show a pathway for rest to follow.
RE:BJP and Vote bank politics
by PKN on Dec 24, 2007 10:07 PM Permalink
Jaffer , Let me answer that question for you with out BAIS . The answer in Gujarat is a big no . Modi did not oppose the Muslims, for him they remained irrelevant ! No Muslim Candidate from the BJP , No devolopment in Muslim areas , no agenda for Muslims. In 2004 under Vajapee and may the late Pramod Mahajan the BJP tried to win Muslim votes. You know what happened the Muslims trashed the NDA and they lost power. On a different note do you beleive that the Congress supports Muslims ? If you do let me tell you they dont ! They want your votes and that too when that is big enough to win. In Gujarat they also played what the media has admitted was soft Hindutva. Finally there is this cliche of Divide and Rule that the British practiced ! Historically when were the Hindus and Muslims of this sub- continent ever united that the British needed to divide. We were divided and the British merely used that division to thier advantange. All politics is vote bank politics .... and the only one who was not into this was Mahatma Gandhi.
RE:BJP and Vote bank politics
by DR Kumar on Dec 24, 2007 10:04 PM Permalink
jaffr! think if you want .. in my nation people are chooseing the reprasentative not for running the nation ... or at least not by that assesing capacity, posses by them .. who will administrte the nation better? but seems they vote to elect a prist of temple or a moulavi of masjid or a paadari of church..
"""Talking about Sonia not sending a congratulatry message to Modi though Dr Singh had done the same, Moily said that the party decided against sending the message as Modi could have turned down the greeting and "we do not want our leader to be slighted," he said."""
Moily to break the news to you, Sonia has already been humiliated this election. a little more humiliation would not matter much.
RE:HAHAHHA
by on on Dec 24, 2007 09:19 PM Permalink
how is it so? congress combine won 11 more seats than last election. they are still in the centre. they captured central gujarat which was most polarized region of gujarat. so its a comeback of sorts for congress in gujarat. there is no modi wave for sure. lets see after 2 years where modi stands and then comment.
In the past 2 months, the english media has blown issues out of proportion regarding Modi. They were desperate to see him lose. Now they lost their face. For example, the Times of India is so shamelessly pro-congress that I stopped reading that paper. the ToI editorial says freedom of speech is important but taslima nasreen should not have hurt the sentiments of muslims. I wonder why they didn't say the same thing when MF Hussain hurt the sentiments of hindus.
I do not approve of the riots that took place in gujarat. they were a shame on Indian democracy. Killing any one no matter his/her religion is a horrible thing to do. The trauma that the families undergo will make everyone cry. But the english media never projects the same hatred against congress sponsored riots or against communist sponsored nandigram. they say that these are different issues.
It is exactly this double standards that force me to support the BJP (even though I wish they started respecting Muslims as any other citizens of this country.)
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RE:english media now feels the heat by raj on Dec 24, 2007 07:44 PM yeah, the hypocrites of the worst kind. they keep repeating the message of pogrom in gujurath, while there were 10 times the number of people killed in punjab in the sikh riots. why not take up that issue you blasted english media ? Times of india is the leading one amongst them.
RE:RE:Bloody English Media
by Demo-crazy on Dec 25, 2007 12:13 AM Permalink
The commie journos can't go to Muslim countries and preach becasue they do not get the lavish lifestyle and freedom to abuse.
Phukat ka daaru, phukat ka paise, aur kya kya, kisko patta? Wahan gaaye to ghulami karni padegi. yahan se karo, kisi ki paise pe aish bhi kaaro.
I liked your suggestion about changing the name of their news paper. There is one more from south India. A leading name published from Chennai - that also may require a change of name...
Just because Modi has won Gujarat elections, it will be foolish for BJP to think that they would win National Elelctions. Understood that MP, Chattishgarh Govts are not doing well under their government. They do not have Modi like, non corrupt Development oriented CMs in other states. They are all like any other Congress led CMs. BJP need to bring Modi like CMs in all the states they rule. They could have retained, Uma Bharati & Kalyan Singh like leaders. It is good for BJP, so long as Sonia & Rahul rule Congress as they do not have real ability.
To all those Modi fans who are asking every muslim on the forum to go to Pakistan, I want to know who the fk are you to ask an Indian to leave his homeland, when he has been paying his taxes as much as you. When he has toiled for this land as much as you. What is up with you guys, do you think this country is a cricket match or your grandpas property ?
RE:To all those Modi fans
by jet on Dec 24, 2007 08:54 PM Permalink
I think the people are asking only anti-indians and who have soft corner for pakistan to go there. Many people in India consider their religion first and country second . Those people dont deserve to live here. This country is the property of Indians for whome country comes first and religion later.
RE:To all those Modi fans
by Ravi Kumar on Dec 24, 2007 09:00 PM Permalink
What I have generally observed among even educated muslims (I have many Muslim friends), Relegion is above anything and everything including the nation.
As long as this mindset exists, one can only see the hatred towards muslims being increased by the day!
RE:RE:To all those Modi fans
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:56 PM Permalink
If I give a US green card, 99% of these people on this forum will opt for it. That much for keeping the country before oneself. This is a fact. Should we call them anti national and kick them out ?
RE:RE:RE:To all those Modi fans
by BlueBoy on Dec 24, 2007 09:15 PM Permalink
Leaving one's country for job in a different country is no ANTI-NATIONAL, but not singing our "Bande Mataram" is, supporting Pakistan living in our country is! The biggest problem in guys like you is that you do not accept that some muslims are creating a hell of problem in India....and about 80% of the rest either support them or keep mum. According to me these people are traitors and anti-national.
RE:To all those Modi fans
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Dec 24, 2007 08:51 PM Permalink
Mr. Stav, this country is indeed our grandpa's property. But we are NOT asking muslim brothers to leave. We are asking anti nationals to leave the country for Pak. And if you can't find the difference between the two then how is it our problem??
RE:RE:To all those Modi fans
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:58 PM Permalink
can you be a little less poetic in your communication, so that i can understand.
RE:To all those Modi fans
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:54 PM Permalink
Who is to brand someone as anti national or national, if you are so bldy national what are you doing on a rediff forum, why are you not on the border protecting the country. Please keep this arm chair patriotism in your home. I consider all divisive forces anti national, which they are, should i ask them to leave this country.
RE:To all those Modi fans
by sharath chandra on Dec 24, 2007 08:58 PM Permalink
with what freedom u have written this comments, with the same freedom of speech ppl have commented dear. Tell our friends to stop barking blindly on BJP as communal. it is time for every one to join hands together to make our country superpower
RE:RE:To all those Modi fans
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:59 PM Permalink
Very good are you ready to include them, is BJP ready to include them ? Let me get an answer from BJP.
RE:To all those Modi fans
by sharath chandra on Dec 24, 2007 09:05 PM Permalink
mr.stav can u give garantee that tomarrow any intellectual muslim joins BJP, the fanatics will not declare a fatwa on this innocent muslim. do u have the guts to condemn openly againest all these?
RE:RE:To all those Modi fans
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 09:07 PM Permalink
Ofcourse I will condemn any fatwa, fatwas belong to the medieval period and authorised by pea brained medieval idiots.
RE:To all those Modi fans
by Jaffer Ali on Dec 24, 2007 09:49 PM Permalink
Yes as Stav said that is a hard task for Modi, if he do that he will lose Hindu votes. I NDTV someone asked this to a BJP leader of Gujarat about wooing Muslims voters but there is no clear answer.
RE:To all those Modi fans
by sharath chandra on Dec 24, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
nothing is impossible. even now if our muslim brothers comes out of their psedo secular shell and join their hands with Modi.....yes we can build a powerful nation. what do u say dear mr.stav
RE:To all those Modi fans
by sharath chandra on Dec 24, 2007 09:14 PM Permalink
modi`s inaction? his was reactions dear. ACTION comes first. if the actions r good and peaceful manner reactions will always fallow the same way
who is this Stav guy? Self-styled proponent of morality... Dude why can't you reveal your real name if there is even an ounce of conviction in what you post here???
RE:To all those Modi fans
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 09:10 PM Permalink
i know muslims who condemn Godhra massacre, I guess your statistics is different from mine. Will you condemn Modi's inaction ?
RE:To all those Modi fans
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 09:20 PM Permalink
sriram, i have preached morality here, i have questioned some authorities around on this forum. Is your name "sriram sriram" ? thats a funny name to have, your parents were out names is it, to doubly name you with the same name. Why dont you come out with your address and blood group and janma kundali on the a public forum and then challenge me azzole.
RE:RE:RE:To all those Modi fans
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 09:22 PM Permalink
sure actions come first, was it not his business as a leader to protect his people ? what hindutva is this ? this defies all dharmic injunctions, if that is what you guys prde yourself with.
RE:To all those Modi fans
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 09:02 PM Permalink
Oh really, this question was put directly to Modi, he never answered it. By the way I voted for BJP in the last election.
RE:RE:To all those Modi fans
by SekharaM on Dec 24, 2007 09:25 PM Permalink
Hello Stav, Regarding your point that if USA gives Green Card, 90% of the population go away from India. Do you know why? Because USA is secular in the true sense. There are no reservations in the name of caste, minorities etc. One has the freedom to follow any religion, but laws are the same for everyone. There are no personal laws. The vote-bank politics are not as rampant and shameless as in India. A congressman or senator puts the development of his constituency/state first above party politics (no touching the feet of leaders like Sonia and Rahul). Politicians and government servanats are relatively honest - if a person is corrupt, the law will catch him sooner or later. One does not get away with drunken driving and killing people because he is a film star. If a person is willing to work , he or she will be successful.
RE:To all those Modi fans
by Demo-crazy on Dec 25, 2007 12:04 AM Permalink
Its surprising to see NO reply option on many messages.
But many of the comments are out of sheer ignorance about BJP, Hinduism, India, and about how some minority elements behave or how such elements are pampered or misused by greedy politicians.
