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Demons
As for Agassi,
by Demons on Sep 07, 2012 11:07 AM  | Hide replies

On Red bound Ace;

Agassi - 4;
Fede - 3

On Plexicushion;

Djo - 3
Fede - 1,

He simply did'nt stood OUT on any "Surface",

as such!

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Demons
As for 8 Consecutive Finals!!
by Demons on Sep 07, 2012 11:06 AM  | Hide replies

Even nadal has that, without being "DEFEATED",

barring AO 2011, where he was injured, not DEFEATED,

till FO 2012,

he made it to 8 Successions!!

Ball Possessions does'nt matter, "Goals" matter!

By your logic,

Any person can play till 40 years of age,

boast of a 40 * 4 - 160 Grand Slam "APPEARENCE",

without achieving anything in essence!


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bhunu pro
Re: As for 8 Consecutive Finals!!
by bhunu pro on Sep 07, 2012 11:26 AM
if reaching SF/Final is equal to getting thrashed in 1st or second round--- then you win !!

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bhunu pro
Fedex vs Nadal turned into Fedex vs all time greats
by bhunu pro on Sep 07, 2012 10:47 AM  | Hide replies

A players reaching almost every Final/SF/QF stage..compared to player not making upto SF/QC/Final consecutively.. isnt decide who is better? Here debate is bet Nadal vs Fedex.. Now Fedex being taregetted with stats of evry great player in history... thats itself is prof of L-EG-E-N-D

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Anuraug Rathor
Re: Fedex vs Nadal turned into Fedex vs all time greats
by Anuraug Rathor on Sep 07, 2012 03:00 PM
Looks like you were in hibernation till WImbledon 2011.Who didnt make SF/QF/Final consecutively?Nadal??LOL.He won 3 slams in 2008& 2010,was in 3 slam finals in 2011 winning 1 of them, and 2 slam finals in 2012 winning one of them.Please explain how he managed all that without making final/SF/QF stage.We are waiting with bated breath for your revelations :):):)Please bless us lesser mortals with your divine knowledge.

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rajesh
Re: Re: Fedex vs Nadal turned into Fedex vs all time greats
by rajesh on Sep 07, 2012 04:25 PM
You can also reply to demons revelations right? Why do you never reply to those? Is it becuase he or she(I am expecting she) is a nadal fan and so she can post brilliant "revelations"? :) rathor is becoming a laughing stock :)

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Anuraug Rathor
Re: Re: Re: Fedex vs Nadal turned into Fedex vs all time greats
by Anuraug Rathor on Sep 07, 2012 10:24 PM
Yeah I guess I am becoming a laughing stock....the point is that you're the only one laughing:) :) :)

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Anuraug Rathor
Re: Re: Re: Fedex vs Nadal turned into Fedex vs all time greats
by Anuraug Rathor on Sep 07, 2012 10:25 PM
And maybe you can follow your own advice and reply to bhunus revelations??Not applicable,cos (s)he is a FedUp fan?I thought so.Plug on,you might even believe yourself one day.

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Demons
Do you think "17" is "Highest"!
by Demons on Sep 07, 2012 10:18 AM  | Hide replies

There are people with more than 20 Grand Slam titles to their credit.

John McEnroe has 17 Grand Slam titles!

Pancho Gonzales has 19..

If you consider all time "Grass plus Clay",

Bill Tilden,
Roy Emerson,

everyone will top the list,

above federer!!



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bhunu pro
Re: Do you think "17" is "Highest"!
by bhunu pro on Sep 07, 2012 10:44 AM
ok ..friend..u r now including doubles/Mixed doubles to d list which is "dependent" game/team game..here we are debating on the greatest tennis players..In dat case even Leander Paes can be debated with Fedex to be greater or not ?? .. Also.. Fedex has 33 ATP World Tour Masters 1000 finals..which Mcnroe doesnt boast of. However..dis is not d yardstick o both can be judged

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Anuraug Rathor
Re: Re: Do you think "17" is "Highest"!
by Anuraug Rathor on Sep 07, 2012 03:03 PM
What about the fact that inspite of being 5 years senior,Fedex has only managed to equal Nadal's record of masters titles??That too,Nadal was leading and Fedex equalled it only last month.

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Demons
Re: Re: Do you think
by Demons on Sep 07, 2012 11:02 AM
That's 2 Setters!!

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bhunu pro
Re: Re: Re: Do you think
by bhunu pro on Sep 07, 2012 12:32 PM
so ??

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Demons
Bhuno pro
by Demons on Sep 07, 2012 10:15 AM  | Hide replies

What you stated above are not "Titles",

but appearences, which every body knows.

as such form only "Secondary" to Major SURFACE records held!

You can add olympic FINAL APPEARENCE, also to the list!

:-)

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bhunu pro
Re: Bhuno pro
by bhunu pro on Sep 07, 2012 10:38 AM
Again.. u openly ignore d facts .. offcourse its apperances..which NO other player had.. yes..no other players..and reaching SF/QF's def proves ur skills compared to rest playing lot.. Leave Nadal.. dese many appearnaces none other players had made.. EVER ..

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bhunu pro
Now d real stats --Bring on
by bhunu pro on Sep 07, 2012 09:52 AM  | Hide replies

Care 2 hv a glance at edex record..shich is not just greater than Nadal..but all time greats..

33 consecutive Slam QF

23 consecutive Slam SFs

Grand Slam finals (all except Juan Mart�Del Potro), an all-time men's record, (1. Philippoussis, 2. Safin, 3. Roddick, 4. Hewitt, 5. Agassi, 6. Baghdatis, 7. Nadal, 8. Gonzalez, 9. Djokovic, 10. Murray, 11. S�ling). Sampras has also faced 12 different opponents and defeated 9 of them in Grand Slam finals (all except Edberg, Safin, and Hewitt), (1. Agassi, 2. Courier, 3. Pioline, 4. Martin


all time record of 17 Grand Slams in 10 years,once started winning (2003–12) > Sampras 14 Grand Slams in the span of 13 years (1990–2002).


24 Grand Slam finals > record of 19 by Ivan Lendl.[13]


10 consecutive Grand Slam finals > Jack Crawford in 1934

won 8 of them > DEFATED RECORD 4 OF Laver/Agassi (2000).

Now compare how many diff opponents in Slam finals Nadal had faced vs what Fedex has faced..



Fedex fans might be complacent dat makes Nadal fans to ridicule Federer

-- which is at best living in eutopia..

BTW.. Nadal fans themselevs are comparing Fedex with other all time greats in most of d a comparision ...and nOT NAD-AL
..Bring on more..


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bhunu pro
Re: Now d real stats --Bring on
by bhunu pro on Sep 07, 2012 09:56 AM
and here I have just referred couple of wiki inputs.. more wud from dobeat/sportsillustrated/mentennisforum/bleach...

Bring more

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Demons
Re: Now d real stats --Bring on
by Demons on Sep 07, 2012 10:22 AM
The list of Federer's opponents,

you sighted above,

Don't even have a "Doubles Title", on Grass/ Clay court, for over a decade!

As for djokovic, he was a minor, below 21 years of age, like Nadal!

Federer's Record agaist a 21 Year old MAJOR Nadal is

Z.e.r.o!

It does'nt prove his "Greatness"!

:-)

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bhunu pro
Re: Re: Now d real stats --Bring on
by bhunu pro on Sep 07, 2012 10:35 AM
ok..u need to see how federer was abelt o reach upto final.. rtaher Nadal was not making into almost every SF/Finals even post-2008...dats the point here !!

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Anuraug Rathor
Re: Re: Re: Now d real stats --Bring on
by Anuraug Rathor on Sep 07, 2012 03:06 PM
Post 2008,I think you were in hibernation bhunu.Or maybe you were following baseball or kabaddi and not tennis.Because in 2008 and 2010,Nadal won 3 slams each.In 2011 he was in 3 slam finals winning 1.And in 2012 he's in 2 of 4 slams,missing one due to injury.So please explain to us mere mortals how Nadal achieved all these without making into SF/Finals.Only you seem to have this divine knowledge or maybe Rajesh shares it too.:):):)

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rajesh
Re: Re: Re: Re: Now d real stats --Bring on
by rajesh on Sep 07, 2012 04:27 PM
But still yours and demons "divine knowledge" rocks big time :)

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Anuraug Rathor
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Now d real stats --Bring on
by Anuraug Rathor on Sep 07, 2012 10:27 PM
No,I'm just a mere mortal.

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Demons
Hard Courts
by Demons on Sep 07, 2012 08:36 AM

John Mc. - 4 US Open plus 5 Consecutive Pro Slam

9 Titles in 7 Years.

Jimmy Connors - 5 US Open plus 1 US Pro Slam -6 titles,

Samprass, Agassi & federer, share the Dais at "SECOND" instance!

Not to mention,

Djokovic has 3, 2 more will make him 5 on AO!


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Demons
Clay Courts
by Demons on Sep 07, 2012 08:33 AM

1. Rafael Nadal
2. Borg
3. Ken Rosewall
4. Pacho Sanchez
.
.

To name a few!

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Demons
OKAY, You want all time list?, Take it
by Demons on Sep 07, 2012 08:31 AM

Grass;

Till- 77 There were no "Hard Courts"

1. Rod Laver, - all his 19 slams came on Grass
2. Ken Rosewal
3. Pacho Sanchez
.
.
Have more than 10 Grass Court Titles.

SIX Consecutive Grass Court Titles by;

1. William Renshaw, plus 1 - in 8 Years

2. Jack Craw`er - plus i more - in 8 years

3. Don Boux` -

Then Comes your;

Roger Federer - 5 Consecutives plus 2 - 7 in 14 YEARS.

Get that,

there are 10 players above him on Grass Courts!

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bhunu pro
Look closely -- u will see
by bhunu pro on Sep 06, 2012 10:56 PM  | Hide replies

It has always been Fedex out of his prime while Nadal moving towards his prime post-2007..Still fedex was able to hold him in fast hard courts..Outside clay RAFA has won against fedex mostly on slow hard courts .. these statics needs to be dived into deeply..US Open wud have determined some result but dat didnt happen ( am saying this even when fedex now has crossed 30)..If 17 grand slams does not give correct picture ..even 18-7 Rafa HEH against Fedex is NOT true picture ..T time !!

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Sanjeev Sekhar
Re: Look closely -- u will see
by Sanjeev Sekhar on Sep 07, 2012 02:02 PM
18-7 doesn't give a clear picture!!!!!!!!!!Please check out, what happened in their first duel....

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