Re: Saina's win
by Girish Wadhwa on Aug 07, 2012 05:50 PM
did u every see her matches!!!! also remember the fact that she had recently beaten even the eventual champion in recent tournament! last ques : do you understand sport at all
With due respect to Saina's achivement, I would still say Parupalli Kashyap performed the best among the Indian shuttlers. Saina was anyways expected to win atleast a bronze and she did it in style, in the way that only she can perform. No second thoughts on her legendary status. But spare a moment for Kashyap. This 21st ranked player went all the way into QF before bowing out the Malaysian World Number 2 player. To me, he is the real find in this olympics for badminton.
Finally, thanks a million to GopiChand, the man behind this exponential growth of Indian Badminton in the world stage. 10 yrs back no one would have thought an Indian could finish at the podium. Now we got it. Who knows, in 10 yrs time, an Indian might win GOLD too. Great Job guys. Keep it up.
Re: S
by Typhoid Mary on Aug 07, 2012 01:27 PM
How someone, whose wining bronze can be purely attirbuted to serendipitious developments,could do it "in style"?
Re: Re: Re: S
by Typhoid Mary on Aug 07, 2012 01:47 PM
My freind, being an ostrich is not a good policy to subscribe as it won't pay dividends in the long run. today, u r going gaga over saina, tomorrow u would spit on her when she " ll be shellacked by the nunero unos. I do'nt bear any grudge with saina, merely stating hard facts as an unimpassioned.
Re: Re: S
by Ibrahim Masood on Aug 07, 2012 01:45 PM
Arey haule...very easy to comment. Have you ever play any game? How difficult is to perform on court? Achieve something n then comment.
Re: S
by Ganesh on Aug 07, 2012 06:37 PM
yes you are right. this was Kashyap's 1st Olympics. He was the find in Men's Badminton for India this time.
last time (2008 Beijing Olympics) was 1st Olympics for a young 18 year old 1st time nervous young girl Saina. She was the find for India in that Olympics (when she reached Quarter Finals).
Same way next time Kashyap would be 4 more years older, more mature and more stronger and would have learnt more from his mistakes , thanks to experience and would become Semifinalist and who knows would go on to to Finals also.
1st Olympics for anybody young is not easy. Qualifying itself if great achievement and performing under so much pressure from a country of 1 billion who are so starved and hungry for atleast 1 medal is not at all easy. As people get Olympic experience they grow into better players. But if they win medal once, they may even tend to take it a bit easy next time because they have achieved the greatest sporting goal for the country once and its not so easy to replicate Olympic after Olympic (For Ex. Abhinav, Vijender etc..they won a medal each in Beijing but here they couldn't do so.Still they are India's great achieving heros any day).
So wait and watch. Some younger players who didnt achieve this time may get chance in next Olympics and may get medals.
& certainly not through back door given the fact saina had already lost the 1st game 18-21 & trailing 0-1 in the 2nd. If she had at least taken a lead in the 2nd game then this medal would worth it\'s weight in Au. I also found it little quizzical hoq saina was overeagar to press the ref\'s hand while Xin Wang was limping on the ground. Saina, like any other ace sportsperson, should have admitted at the very outset that it was thanx to serendipitious developments that had earned her bronze not her performance on the given day which is little unfortunate. However, rediff deserves kudos for at least setting the record straight by rightly attributing her win to \"fortuitous circumstances\".
I had to say this as i want to remain on the side of the angels come what may.
Re: Sorry, it s'd have come much better way
by abc_xyz abc_xyz on Aug 07, 2012 02:36 PM
I wonder, how someone who lost the 1st game and was trailing by just 1 point in the 2nd game, could not have won the next 2 games and the match, had they continued playing. I agree on that handshake part, which I myself didn't like it, but when you have two world-class players fighting a top match, the match isn't over until the last point is won.
Sadly, you missed out on this vital point. There are two ways of winning a game. Either you play to your strenghts, or you play to your opponent's weekness. And in that game Saina did both. Her long rallies did really tire the chinese out and her withdrawing from the game was not something unexpected at that stage. Moroever, she lost it 18-21 and not 8-21 to come to any conclusions.
Bottom line, Saina, after having won the coveted medal doesn't become an angel straightaway, not does PT usha who lost the same medal by a whisker become a loser. They earned their reputation over a period of time and their achivements are a testimony to that.
Re: Sorry, it s'd have come much better way
by Maruthi on Aug 07, 2012 03:27 PM
Please do not be hypercritical of a sportsperson who has given her best to make the country proud. Just as one should not hype anybody, one should not also be cynical and hypercritical about somebody. Saina is not a flash in the pan. Over the years, she has been consistently performing with class and winning several prestigious international tournaments. Considering that badminton is a sport dominated by the chinese, it is indeed a himalayan achievement to have made a dent into their stronghold. It was not Saina's fault that her chinese opponent went for acrobatic play and slipped and injured her knee. It was not Saina's fault that she decided to withdraw from the contest. The chinese adopted "speed" as her strategy against Saina, but tried to take longer pauses to regain their breath under the pretext of wiping the sweat. Fast-paced play has its toll too. The very score of 18-21 shows that Saina was not an easy cake to eat. Saina fought hard to save the game points through long and tiring rallies. This is part of the strategies employed in the game of badminton. Trailing 0-1 is not such a big deal. So try to moderate your critique and recognise her effort. With more and more exposure to the fast-paced chinese play, she will improve her game further and certainly get the gold the next time around. By the by, get a good treatment for your typhoid.
Re: Re: Sorry, it s'd have come much better way
by Typhoid Mary on Aug 07, 2012 04:05 PM
I hope i could perish the thought that by the time saina finds herself capable enough to stand "chinese pace" , she wouldn't turn long in the tooth!!! your blog typifies old indian disease of justifying the unjustifiable since it's coded in your DNA.these days u r so short when it comes to looking up to pacesetters that u start tripping the light fantastic by classing "glass" as "diamond". good luck to you and yr ilk.
Re: Re: Sorry, it s'd have come much better way
by sourabh verma on Aug 07, 2012 04:08 PM
All this is pure assumption and prediction. The match was not played fully, and it's a pity that the "real" winner could not be decided through a proper full match. However, it doesn't mean Saina won only through luck. At best, we can say that she did not earn it the way we would have all liked, but it wasn't her fault if her opponent was injured.
Her comments about Chinese players being scared of her does not seem right, as she did not win against them in this olympic. May be other tournaments her chance will come.
Re: Re: Re: Sorry, it s'd have come much better way
by abc_xyz abc_xyz on Aug 07, 2012 05:27 PM
Dear Sourabh ..read her comments again ..she might not have won any chinese in this olympics (or rather was not given full opportunities to do so)..but barring her semifinalist, she had beaten other players in the tournaments held as recent as 3-4 months ago. That really made them look up at her as a potential challenge to their throne and they started devicing plans to combat here before the games. Also if you notice, Olymics allows onlu 3 players per country and China had the luxury (or rather headache) of choosing their team from the list of 6 players, who are in top 10 now. And guess what, they chose World number 1, 2 and 4 and ignored number 3 as she had a poor record against SAINA !!! such is the concern they had and saina's statement that they are scared is fully justified.
Re: Did Jwala Gutta also get a rousing reception?
by abc_xyz abc_xyz on Aug 07, 2012 01:19 PM
Jwala Gutta is a PRO for Badminton. Saina is the real performer.
Re: Did Jwala Gutta also get a rousing reception?
by Ganesh on Aug 07, 2012 01:35 PM
Jwala's dad is Kranti Gutta (Telugu) and mother is Yelan Gutta(Chinese).
Yelan came from Tianjin in China to India in 1977 and married Kranti and Jwala is their amazing kid who plays excellent badminton for India and qualified for Olympics also.Next time Jwala will get medal for sure in Olympics.
