Mclarens have once again proved that they they wanna win .. off the track if not on the track .. One can imagine how much timo and toyota must have got from mclarens .. for puling out at the last corner .
Had this been a ferrari .. in place of Mclarens and had it been Msc in place of LH .. all the news papers .. all the websites .. bolgs would have started crying that FIA is favoring Ferrari .. now since that is Mclarens and Lewis Hamilton .. No one has raised a question...
I HATE lEWIS HAMILTON .. I HATE MCLARENS I HATE TIMO GLOCK too !!
Re: I HATE TIMO GLOCK
by Krish on Nov 03, 2008 06:33 PM
WELL SAID. THIS IS FIXED. AND MASSA DESERVES TO BE A WINNER. HE HAS MOST NUMBER OF WINS. ALSO SEE THE WAY HE WON THE BRAZILIAN GP. AND THIS NERVOUS WRECK HAMILTON HAD TO DEPEND ON GLOCK FOR HIS WIN. GLOCK MUST BE RICHER NOW....
Re: I HATE TIMO GLOCK
by FORCE INDIA on Nov 03, 2008 10:48 PM
Typical Ferrari Fan u r, but irrational I would say. I too adore Ferrari, but you conviniently forget the fact that Massa was HELPED by Kimi in the previous race to keep his Championship hopes alive. But why would you remember that.
Well Fixed match -- this guys are known for this kind of Crookedness, last year spy work with 100 million $ fine never made them set them of this kind of nonsense
Re: shame on Mclarens
by Truth Teller on Nov 03, 2008 05:19 PM
How long will you cry over spilt milk. This season in most races McLaren car was as good as a Ferrari and in wet conditions Ferrari just couldnt compete with a McLaren. Give some credit where it is due .. Lewis is the Champion
F1 is unlike other sports where champions are made solely based on their talents. To excel in F1 you need to be a good driver and have a good car with good team to give you excellent pitstops. Lewis - McLaren is one such combination. I always had a soft corner to the red ferraris but I must admit that had McLaren had a better driver instead of Heiki, Ferrari would have had a tough time winning the constructors title. Lewis is young, rash and unpredictable. Champions like them make watching F1 all the more interesting. More than anything, he has been consistent. He tries to get as many points as he can from all the races and that is what won him the championship. With a 7 point lead going into the last race, McLaren played very safe. Had the margin been lesser, we would have seen a far more agressive Lewis. All in all a great season and the person who deserved most won. No regrets. The things I look forward in the next season would be 1. Renault and any improvements from them. 2. BMW's new car and Kubica 3. Last but not the least Vettel. He will be a star. 4. Will Heike play a bigger role in the championship.
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by rajeev sharma on Nov 03, 2008 06:23 PM
yes lewis is true sportsman, just know his passion for f1. ferrari fans are crying over split milk.
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by srivatsa yb on Nov 03, 2008 04:47 PM
only one thing to say
" HE IS A NOBODY IN FRONT OF SCHUMACHER"
u can harp on and on about hamilton, we have seen enough races of him to know that vettel/alonso/massa are better then him
mclaren also have cycles in which their competency goes down and renaults increases..next season i am sure they will go down, then we will see how well hamilton will do
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by Truth Teller on Nov 03, 2008 04:49 PM
Look at what Schumi achieved in his first 2 years of racing and compare that with Lewis. He is more than a match. It is only a matter of time before all his records are broken. I know Schumi fans cant digest that fact ..
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by Shinu Varghese on Nov 03, 2008 05:32 PM
Truth Teller, Srivastva is right. Accept it. Even when Schumi joined Ferrari, they were down in the dumps. Schumi was instrumental in their revival.
In comparison Hamilton got a finished package to race from the beginning. He is talented but is not Schumacher.
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by srivatsa yb on Nov 03, 2008 04:52 PM
haha schumi started in a jordan and benneton ford when they were useless u fool...u are an amateur to this sport i am sure by the way u speak..
i think u started watching from last year boy so keep quiet :)
hamilton has to born 2 times more to come close to 91 wins
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by Shinu Varghese on Nov 03, 2008 05:32 PM
Truth Teller, Srivastva is right. Accept it. Even when Schumi joined Ferrari, they were down in the dumps. Schumi was instrumental in their revival.
In comparison Hamilton got a finished package to race from the beginning. He is talented but is not Schumacher.
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by Shinu Varghese on Nov 03, 2008 05:33 PM
Truth Teller, Srivastva is right. Accept it. Even when Schumi joined Ferrari, they were down in the dumps. Schumi was instrumental in their revival.
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by Shinu Varghese on Nov 03, 2008 05:34 PM
Truth Teller, Srivastva is right. Accept it. Even when Schumi joined Ferrari, they were down in the dumps. Schumi was instrumental in their revival.
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by Truth Teller on Nov 03, 2008 06:40 PM
Writing the same message 4 times doesnt make it right. How can you compare 2 sportsmen from different era riding on different cars? Even the technologies have changed. It is not fair to compare them. When history is written, Schumi will have his place and Lewis will have his. Lets not judge now who is better.
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by Truth Teller on Nov 03, 2008 05:07 PM
Schumi has already made him mentally ready for his records to be broken. he did state in his recent interviews that he expects Lewis to break his 7 championship records. He is a sportsman and he knows things and can live with that, but not his fans. For them, the king is dead but long live the king.
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by breddy on Nov 03, 2008 04:57 PM
We can judge hamilton only at the end of his career. SCHUMACHER didn't won F1 at his age!!!
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by Truth Teller on Nov 03, 2008 04:52 PM
Nobody knows what next season will be like .. But in this season Lewis is the champ and that is what record books will show. Nobody cares if some Ferrari fans in India agree or not.
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by srivatsa yb on Nov 03, 2008 04:48 PM
also put vettel in a mclaren next year and i am sure he will beat hamilton in every race :)
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by Truth Teller on Nov 03, 2008 05:03 PM
They already had many of them like him .. But still couldnt .. May be better luck next time
Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by Zing on Nov 03, 2008 06:05 PM
Forget the past guys. Hail new king of F1 - Hamilton. U cant keep on harping on past glory forever. Is Massa a match for Schumi , running in the same car?
Re: Re: Lewis - The deserving champion
by Truth Teller on Nov 03, 2008 04:57 PM
Hahaha good one .. But from what he says, I think he is old enough for his license to be revoked. So tough luck. May be he will do in his next birth.
after schumi retired i dont follow all F1 races and watch them periodically..
Hamilton fans pls answer only this question
why did glock not block the corner?? after the corner there was only one big straight where there was no need for any grip. any racing driver would have blocked, glock just plainly cheated...
How come kubica on dry clocked 1.29 whereas the toyotas clocking 1.30s in the last but one lap went to 1.44 in the final lap??
Re: This is not about Ferrari fans ranting!!
by Truth Teller on Nov 03, 2008 04:48 PM
Drivers are prone to make lots of mistakes when they drive in wet conditions with dry tyres. Did you all forget what happened with Kimi when Lewis was trying to overtake him. He could keep control of his car and went wide and crashed into the barriers. It is funny to see so many Indians see "fixing" in this. Maybe because we are used to doing this all the time.
Re: This is not about Ferrari fans ranting!!
by srivatsa yb on Nov 03, 2008 04:53 PM
going out of the racing line to let competitors pass when u are fighting for 4th place with 1 corner and a huge straight to go is "FIXING"
Re: This is not about Ferrari fans ranting!!
by breddy on Nov 03, 2008 05:09 PM
I don't think F1 judges are brainless. There is problem with glock tyres(dry) and he might be very low on fuel (remember he is 'effectively' on single stop strategy), his engine barely has any supply. Had he really intend to help hamilton, he would have gone to pit stop for web tyres and join after hamilton(remember he is behind hamilton before the wet tyre pit stop by hamilton). One who can't digest hamilton winning only make such comments...
Re: This is not about Ferrari fans ranting!!
by Truth Teller on Nov 03, 2008 05:16 PM
So true .. No matter what people say, record books will say that he is the 2008 champion. End of story ...
Re: This is not about Ferrari fans ranting!!
by Truth Teller on Nov 03, 2008 05:08 PM
As per our conspiracy theoru authors,they must have been counting the money which McLaren gave them.
Re: This is not about Ferrari fans ranting!!
by breddy on Nov 03, 2008 04:53 PM
Well mr srivatsa... please send this info. to F1 stewards...you seems more intellegent than the judges their...
By the way, why did kimi didn't block massa at chinese when they are running 2 and 3 respectively.
Re: This is not about Ferrari fans ranting!!
by JesuPeppinJoe on Nov 10, 2008 04:59 PM
These eveything has been decided earlier. In the last lap of Brazil Glock was riding 9.14sec ahed of Vettal and Lewis. But in the last corner he was slowed his car and allow to pass lewis and vettal.If he is having real problem with car why don't he allow Hekki, Trulli who were on the 7th and 8th? And you can see the Glock who was congrates Lewis after the race. This is clearly indicates Clock did cheating. Now he may drive for Mclaren in 2010!!
i watched it live..it was very very obvious that glock slowed down a lot with 2 corners to go without even holding his racing line making it very very easy for hamilton to pass..
I have watched F1 for 16 years now and i know when its fair and when its not. any driver will block ppl behind them no matter how bad their condition is in the last lap of the race.. glock i think will join mclaren...this is pathetic
Re: Massa is the real champ
by rocker on Nov 03, 2008 04:37 PM
so was kubica.... and glock wasnt even on the racing line when hamilton overtook him....
i m not saying its fixed or its wrong... acc to the rulebook its fair and hamilton won.... but dont try to prove that glock didnt give up his position....
congrats to hamilton for the 2 good seasons... he deserved to win a championship as much as the other title contenders.... but he did need some help in the end which some ppl were ready to offer... thats it...
Re: Massa is the real champ
by srivatsa yb on Nov 03, 2008 04:40 PM
nicely said...i dont really care if massa won or hamilton...after schumi i wanna see nice races only..this was an awesome race...but glock did not play it right..
Re: Massa is the real champ
by Truth Teller on Nov 03, 2008 04:43 PM
Had things been fair, the championship race wouldnt have come to Sao Paulo. Lewis would have won long back. Ferrari fans are just bad losers.
