Just like China talks about Taiwan.. then Pakistan can be the same for India. India can force countries to de -recognize Pakistan else forget doing busines with India. Don't think that it is not possible... in future.
So Mr. Pakistani.. u have bloachistan , sindh to take care ..don't try to include kashmir in Tibet forum. Also don't forget about pakistan's creation -- which some bigot wanted to take power bi-furcated british India for their selfish interest.
All Paki people who think arab blood runs through them has to think twice that it is wrong -- their blood is still south asian (they need to read real history and not paki history)..whatever religion they acquire or were forced to acquire, they will be south asian. Arab still treat south asian muslims as dirt.
Tibet was never Chinese.. it was occupied by mongols ..but mongols also acquired china, and it was for a very short period. Kashmir was always part of British India (just like pakistan)
Tibet was independent till 1962.. when india could not take on chinese bully. (Kashmir was never independent in british india)
RE:Paki using Fake names
by raj on Apr 07, 2008 10:36 PM
kashmiri people can connect to anywhere, anyone, anytime. not so with the chinese 7 tibet. china is heavily fortified, internet totally clamped, press freedom is unheard of, freedom of speech for people non-existent.
no wonder yu can see all this noise just before olympics. and the chinese wont buy it. the citizens would have been blinded by the chinese media spin that the west is out to get them. (all the while they know the truth that thier freedom was never theirs)
it is not the question of courage, it is the question of burning your own hand in the same fire. the moment you say something about tibbet, kashmir too will come into picture.
long back one minister talked about tibbet and then china talked a little about kashmir and since then india has never talked about tibbet.
in blog you can easily claim that kashmir and tibbet are different but when the issues are dealt at the international level, it becomes difficult to save your selfishness and attack on others. no matter which party comes in power, they will never talk about tibbet issue.
has any one heared any thing from any BJP or RSS leaders. they know very well, what will happen if they support any freedom struggle, in their own home there is plenty of struggle going on and it will become difficult to distinguish among them.
only some mindless and people without intelligence cry that tibbet and kashmir are different. when common public shout for freedom they shout in the same voice, there is no difference in that.
RE:tibbet issue and courage from indian side...
by avtar priyadarshan on Apr 07, 2008 10:03 PM
Can u strain ur brains to differentiate between the two if u please. Do the exercise and the answers get clear..
RE:tibbet issue and courage from indian side...
by Haramohan Ray on Apr 07, 2008 10:21 PM
Yes, there may be differences - but international diplomacy runs on a strange line. So, it may not be wise for India to show any rashness.
RE:tibbet issue and courage from indian side...
by ashish sinha on Apr 07, 2008 10:04 PM
well My G fernandes recently spoke in open about it and he was very much a part of NDA govt.
and your assertion that only mindless peple speak that kashmir and tibet r different is also wrong.
kashmir has culturally been a part of indian culture. Hindus have been driven out of it and now the muslims remaining are demanding freedom.
tibet was not culturally a part of china, China promoted non tibetan settlers there to change the demographics. which india did not do in kashmir.
Moreover the tibetans are asking for democracy and autonomy. Kashmiris already have autonomy vide article 370, and democracy.. is always there.
Also kashmiris freedom is only some part of srinagar. Jammu and laddakh are not interested in freedom. Tibet freedom struggle is whole of tibet.
well.. tibets are the most well behaved strugglers. If kashmiris want to be like tibetans, thy need to learn how to ask for freedom in a well behaved manner.
so i do not understand why you call people like me mindless, who know how to differentiate.
All we need is a leadership who could put these pints across on the international platform.
We can support tibet , we can shout for them, they are asking for something that kashmiris already have. So we need not be afraid of kashmir issue.
RE:tibbet issue and courage from indian side...
by G S on Apr 07, 2008 10:08 PM
Just like China talks about Taiwan.. then Pakistan can be the same for India. India can force countries to de -recognize Pakistan else forget doing busines with India. Don't think it is not possible.
So Mr. Pakistani.. u have bloachistan , sindh to take care ..don't try to include kashmir in Tibet forum. Also don't forget about pakistan which some bigot wanted to take power created for their selfish interest.
All people who think arab blood runs through them has to think that that is wrong their blood is still south asian..whatever religion they acquire or were forced to acquire.
Tibet was never Chinese.. it was occupied by mongols ..but they acquired china too. Kashmir was always part of British India (just like pakistan)
Tibet was independent till 1962.. when india could not take on chinese bully. (Kashmir was never independent in british india)
RE:tibbet issue and courage from indian side...
by raj on Apr 07, 2008 10:19 PM
mr. golden, stop trying to threaten indians here :p
lmfao. kashmir has been a an open place and it will be. its only punctuated by pakistani sponsored terrorism. kashmir has open internet access, unfiltered. the whole of china cant think of an open press, freedom of speech !
RE:sachin = scum bag
by Golden on Apr 07, 2008 10:50 PM
kyon, tera to bhagwaaan hai naaaa. aise bhagwaan bante hain tum logon ke aur phir galiyon me pade rahte hain koode mein.
RE:RE:Boycott Olympics, else the best decision all medal winners can make is refusing to take the medal...
by KMR Overseas on Apr 07, 2008 09:57 PM
Let all the winner refuse the medal as a protest....
If the Chinese rulers have a sense of grace and magnanimity, they will learn the lesson from the mass uprise.The communist china now will know the power of democracy. In India Mr Praksh Karat and his gang can give protection to the torch, since for the lumpen communists China is more important than any thing else in this earth. They are the born bonder labor of the arrogant China.
RE:Olympic Torch and China
by Golden on Apr 07, 2008 09:46 PM
india did not earn the lesson from kashmir in the last 20 years and you expect this from china... you are mistaking....emprialistic behaviour will never understand the plight of common public. thes same thing is happening in chechenya, palestine and kashmir as well but no body listens.... never mind the success of truth in fighting, and one day truth and justice will emerge winner.
RE:Olympic Torch and China
by Krish on Apr 07, 2008 10:21 PM
Bullshit!!! Kashmir has always been part of India...but Tibet had never been part of China...China invaded Tibet!!!..try to understand the difference dude!!!
RE:RE:Olympic Torch and China
by Golden on Apr 07, 2008 10:48 PM
kashmir too was invaded by patel and was forced to be included with stick and carrot kind of style and poor hari singh did not have enough courage to deny patel and indian army. so they included kashmir in india and saying that it is part of india. like china is saying the same about tibbet and there is no clue how to deny these rheoterics like you are claiming adamantly.
RE:RE:RE:Olympic Torch and China
by raj on Apr 07, 2008 11:22 PM
lols again. kashmiri king joined india sicne he dint want to join an aggressive neighbour.
RE:RE:Olympic Torch and China
by sun on Apr 07, 2008 10:45 PM
The india is set to split into various fragments in coming years. This fragmentation will be solely on the basis of race, caste ans various geopolitical reasons.Then there will no question about Kashmir because they will be given by default. China is a superpower and Indians can just shout and make nuisance, Tibet issue will be soon in the garbage. In india Kannada people are crying for their identity and in the meantime Tamils have inclination towards the militant LTTE. The Marathis are against the Biharis, Biharis are against the Bengalis. The Gujratis say we are the super economic hub in india and rest of India sucks. Assamese are trying to have their genuine homeland, so is the everybody in the whole Northeast. RSS against Muslims, Poor Muslims despite being 100% indians being targeted and oppressed despite second largest ethnic group(25% unofficially) So this is perfect platform for the India to split in coming years.Kashmir I do not bother!!!
RE:Olympic Torch and China
by raj on Apr 07, 2008 10:14 PM
kashmir has an open system people are allowed to opine freely, not so in case of tibet. people arent even allowed to talk !
kashmir isnt tibet. tibet situation is totally controlled by chinese. indian government has been fair to kahmir, has pumped enough money there. people have been living well. the only thing thats disruptive is the terrorists ruining their own people, systematically cleaning their opponents and dissidents, & finally attacking the indian army
RE:Olympic Torch and China
by Golden on Apr 07, 2008 10:45 PM
why you are fair to kashmir. who wants your fairness. just give them their land and go back home... if i capture your house and give you a nice respectable treatment, will you agree that i am nice to you? stop being selfish and start supporting the freedom where ever it is not. no matter it is in india or in china.
RE:Olympic Torch and China
by raj on Apr 07, 2008 11:21 PM
lols again! the kashmiri king joined india wilfully. if you havent got your facts rights its your problem!
We too can give a hand to tibetans. Remember we are free and had to fought battle to get leberated. So lets support tibetan cause for freedom by simply taking a pledge that we will not purchase any goods Made in china.
