Considering the ignorant as well smallminded comments in this msg board, i will highlight a few important points that may otherwise may not be known.
1. Sania is just growing.She is not the finished product.
It takes time to master a field and that involves a learning and exploring process on the main tour too. Even with years of coachin and training , noone cames in the first or even second year and starts winning everything.Some are more extremely fast than others like seles,maria(both products of Nick bollietieri) and Nadal who is from a rich family and has several relatives with sporting backgrounds. Its not necessarily the best thing to win early. Early developers have fizzled out sooner,found difficulties maintaining the focus later in life and not known for longevity.Some like 16 yr USopen winner tracy austin burnt out and capriati too though she mounted a comeback later. federer won his first tile in 2003 after five years on tour and had to take some licks from the likes of Hewitt,nalbandian,ferrero,Henman. Hewitt on the other hand won 2 GS earlier and reached the no 1 earlier. Did it matter who matured early? In the end who has 10 GS titles now?
2. don't look at current results of young players and think its the end.
Young players have a lot to improve and learn in their games.When their games improve, the effect on the results on court will also be different. Looking at results in the 2nd year and declaring it as the real calibre of a player is remarkable ignorance and foolishness.I don't expect experienced sports analysts to make this mistake.but less competent people will. Younger players are just learning the trade now.
3. Advanced sporting countries have the people,resources and expertise to help their sportsmen realise their potential. In India, as we know there are a number of things we can only lament about at the moment.Just expecting our undercoached sportsmen to take on the might of well trained and well drilled sportsmen of the proven countries is plain day dreaming.It does not happen in the real world.Even the cricket team with lots of advantages in this country is struggling to find quality bowlers.It will take time for Sania to iron out some of her deficiencies which happened due to less than topclass coaching.
RE:A few points..
by Sanuman Kumar on Jan 30, 2007 08:24 PM
Oh my cry baby,
by the way, the argument was never about early or late development, my dear friend. It was just about the fact that Sania is not yet there, so there is no need for anyone to jump around claiming that she is a great achiever.
You have again failed in presenting any arguments/points around why anyone should believe that she is gonna make it big later in her life. Citing history of other players can only help you to speculate...
At this point in time, hard facts are that Sania is an underperformer and she has been hyped out of proportions.
I wonder what makes you think you are a thinker since you can't even put an argument properly and in a clear manner. Have a beer, chill, relax, try to think and then when you fail, come back and try posting more inane alphabet soup in the name of arguments. :-)
RE:RE:A few points..
by satya s on Jan 30, 2007 09:17 PM
sanuman says-" It was just about the fact that Sania is not yet there, so there is no need for anyone to jump around claiming that she is a great achiever."
Liar,atleast have some integrity. You made a claim about 20 being old in the age of tennis and used that as the basis of undermining sania's prospects for the future.Now you have modified your argument conveniently once the holes in your original so called argument has been blown.
As for my point, read my first point int he original post now.
"Sania is just growing.She is not the finished product. "
Nowhere i claimed her as the achiever.I see her as a rare talent in India with terrific prospects in a global game and i see the current phase as initial phase of her growth internationally. I am rebutting ignorant smallminded comments that she is only mediocre and all that and these people are all invariably ignorant including yourself.
As for the hypes, who the heck said media hypes are given only to achievers,ignoramus? iT ONLY SHOWS YOUR LACK OF reald world awareness and commonsense
There were several articles recently in the australian media about a 14 yr old Tomic who lost in the earlier rounds of the juniors
why so much *hype* about a losing kid?why do eminents like newcombne and roche spend time on the kid?
because that's the way it is,illiterate.
Its about potential which has promise of achievement in the future. Achievement does not come overnight.
So next before you and other fellow illterates try to complain about this media hype,ask yourself -"do i have enough knwoeldge? do i have enough competence to talk about these things? may be we are the ignorasnt and dumb ones."
Because and that's what and your incompetent fellow specimens truly are ROFL.
Your BS and nonsense inane comments don't work on people like me.I have debated with people of the best qualifications ,intellect and encyclopaedic knowledge.
What can a obnoxioius conceited lightweight ignoramus like you do to me? ROFL
Bring me any of your so called arguments. i can handle it in my sleep.
RE:RE:A few points..
by satya s on Jan 30, 2007 09:22 PM
"You have again failed in presenting any arguments/points around why anyone should believe that she is gonna make it big later in her life"
Don't hurry. i have answered only the points raised by you and your ilk.
The answer is simple. She is a player who is original by way of development and has strategic weapon in the forehand.(its not just another hard forehandbut i will elaborate on it later)
Originality and forehand are important sources of competitive advantage.for the time being, let it suffice.
RE:RE:RE:A few points..
by neha kothari on Feb 04, 2007 01:10 PM
Satya, dont try to explain to this foolish and hypo person, actually he is a looser in his life it seems thats why cannot digest others achievements. Well said, we provide poor facilities to our sportsmen and expects them to perform like Serena.. Shut your mouth Kumar and let her perform, even if she is in 100s she is still India's best in women..
RE:A few points..
by Sanuman Kumar on Jan 30, 2007 08:17 PM
Since you keep coming back to fall even further in your effort to create an argument, here is what someone thinks of you elsewhere in this discussion:
RE:RE:RE:sania by saunak pandya on Jan 29, 2007 08:46 PM Satya You emerge out as a loser against Sanuman. Go by your logic I guess Sania will win grandslam when she will be 40 years old with 3-4 childrens. So, I will waiting for grandsalm in the year 2027. See you then Satya
RE:Sania Mirza
by SSGopalan on Jan 30, 2007 03:48 PM
ya rohan i fully agree with ur statt. but then to be in top 10 she should maintain consistency which i am afraid she is lacking.one day she demolish highly rated paler with awesome ease n then lost to lowly rated player without any fight.
Definitely, she is not good (not even average, most of the time she kicked out in 1st round itself) player but beauty and glamour (and that too in the game like tennis)..this is making the real difference.... AND of course the religion, apprecitated by most of the Hindus and by default all most all (100%) Muslims.
Media is giving so much hype to her for the 50 odd ranking,,,,they will recomended her for post of President, if she win the "Wimbledon"...
Wake up guys there are many other hidden talents, who will not get enough chances,, give them chance to grow....
Kudos to Sania Mirza for improving her World ranking. Sania you faced lots of criticism from ur critic but you worked hard to regain ur lost glory. Keep it up, work-hard and try to become in top ten of the world, then only we Indian will be happy. U can do it, must do it, for we all Indians.
well sania mirza has made it this far...agreed shez not gud enuff to win a grand slam...agreed tat a part of her success is becoz of her beauty and the glamour in tennis...but does tat take her achievements away from her.....does it disprove the fact tat thousands hav picked up the tennis racquet only to emulate her?????? we must learn to show support to our ppl and not criticize because of some bad performances...it happens everywhere...wen chappell's EXPERIMENTS wer working he was the best thing to happen and then .......... We hav to learn tat if sumbody achieves sumthing we must give credit for it and not try to pull tat person down by critisizind every action.... And ya Sania Mirza may be medicore but has still made a huge impact of India's womens image abroad which neither Mary ann Kom,nor Saina Nehwal nor Joshna Chinnappa has....for gods sake Saina n Joshna are still finding their feet in regional(asian) meets....and boxing will never gain or command popularity tat tennis has....so Sania Mirza deserves all the adulation she is getting
media covered jeev mikha performance in latest golf tournament as "jeev finishes disappointing 22". I think it is better performance than sania mirja in tennis. but look it is covered negatively. but even tough sania exit from first round , media will cover as "sania exits first round with fighting".
RE:do u know how media covered jeev mikha performance in golf
by pavan gururajan on Jan 29, 2007 05:12 PM
We expect Jeev to finish first so it is disappointing..wheras with sania even first round is a bonus..thats why!!!
RE:do u know how media covered jeev mikha performance in golf
by hindustani on Jan 30, 2007 08:35 AM
Definately, she is not good (not even average) player but got beauty (and that too in the game like tennis)..this is making the real difference.... and off course religion, apprecitated by most of the Hindus and by default by Muslims.
Media is giving so much hype to her for the 50 odd ranking,,,,they will recomended her for post president(India), if she win the "Wimbledon"
RE:do u know how media covered jeev mikha performance in golf
by utsav kumar on Jan 29, 2007 05:16 PM
ya it is a much more dissapointing finish than Sania Mirza coz he finished 22nd after he won the Asian Tour of Merit last year....so for the champion 22nd is far worse than Sania Mirza's performance in the Aussie Open
Man..all this hype is only due to the fact that she is good looking and/or is in a glamorous sport...people like Koneru Humpy and Saina Nehwal and Joshna Chinappa and MC Mary Kom (three times world champion..not somebody struggling to get into the top 50) have done much more donot even find a footnote. Thanks to the media hype!Way to go Sanuman!!
RE:Its more hype than anything else
by Sanuman Kumar on Jan 29, 2007 04:53 PM
you hit the proverbial nail on its head! Those who rave about sania being a woman and achieving in a cricket crazy country, first need to look at real achievers to understand what achievement is.
RE:Its more hype than anything else
by suhas G on Jan 29, 2007 05:51 PM
ya pavan u r right this media is keeping her on their heads even if she is knocked out in 1st rd almost all the times ,but not helping other athletes like Marykom who is triple world boxing champ,but still has to do a job for 5000 bucks!!!!!!!common media fellows cover other deserving candidates
RE:Its more hype than anything else
by ashok setty on Jan 29, 2007 08:49 PM
pavan its not because only she is good looking test as much more viewership than any other games which is mentioned above badminton is still very good in asiapacific not in west boxing mens as lot of hype not women Chess people cannot involve them self and when you watch in TV its dificult to follow, if you are a telgu viewer Koneru hampi is in now in two adds already so it needs time only game in the world which as equivalent viewers with men is TEnnis leaving athletics and swimming
RE:Its more hype than anything else
by JASTI RAMAN on Jan 29, 2007 06:12 PM
Well i guess ur not understanidng the importance of top 5o in tennis. Who is denying the tht the other girls never performed but do u thing their respective associations world wide provide so much. Well sports live with media coverage brother and sponsorship, u can't do naything.
