Man..all this hype is only due to the fact that she is good looking and/or is in a glamorous sport...people like Koneru Humpy and Saina Nehwal and Joshna Chinappa and MC Mary Kom (three times world champion..not somebody struggling to get into the top 50) have done much more donot even find a footnote. Thanks to the media hype!Way to go Sanuman!!
RE:Its more hype than anything else
by Sanuman Kumar on Jan 29, 2007 04:53 PM
you hit the proverbial nail on its head! Those who rave about sania being a woman and achieving in a cricket crazy country, first need to look at real achievers to understand what achievement is.
RE:Its more hype than anything else
by suhas G on Jan 29, 2007 05:51 PM
ya pavan u r right this media is keeping her on their heads even if she is knocked out in 1st rd almost all the times ,but not helping other athletes like Marykom who is triple world boxing champ,but still has to do a job for 5000 bucks!!!!!!!common media fellows cover other deserving candidates
RE:Its more hype than anything else
by ashok setty on Jan 29, 2007 08:49 PM
pavan its not because only she is good looking test as much more viewership than any other games which is mentioned above badminton is still very good in asiapacific not in west boxing mens as lot of hype not women Chess people cannot involve them self and when you watch in TV its dificult to follow, if you are a telgu viewer Koneru hampi is in now in two adds already so it needs time only game in the world which as equivalent viewers with men is TEnnis leaving athletics and swimming
RE:Its more hype than anything else
by JASTI RAMAN on Jan 29, 2007 06:12 PM
Well i guess ur not understanidng the importance of top 5o in tennis. Who is denying the tht the other girls never performed but do u thing their respective associations world wide provide so much. Well sports live with media coverage brother and sponsorship, u can't do naything.
u numbskulls! do you realize that sania made it to top 50 inspite of NOT doing well in the last 2 weeks? this just means that some others have been laying off, or were not in form. why are you hailing such a passive achievement? i am so ashamed of my countrymen!
u numbskulls! do you realize that sania made it to top 50 inspite of now doing well in the last 2 weeks? this just means that some others have been laying off, or were not in form. why are you hailing such a passive achievement? i am so ashamed of my countrymen!
Her entry point has always been exit point. Inconsistent performance is an indicator of lack of practice and home work. She is not a prodigy, neither a professional performer. She also is a shining example similar to indian cricketers. Some are born with silver spoons in their mouth and Sania is one. But for her PR, she would have been shown the exit door long back.
RE:RE:Sania, Mania,
by Sanuman Kumar on Jan 29, 2007 04:06 PM
exactly, so let's not eulogize her as a winner and a champ. She is just the first woman player to reach so far... and this is not far enough, let's be sure of that.
Agreed 20yrs is old in tennis but please name one woman player from India who rose to a ranking as high as 31 in Modern Tennis? And that too a cricket fanatic country?
RE:So what if 20 is OLd?
by RPMattoo on Jan 29, 2007 05:01 PM
B . she is the first generation of women tennis players from India. even if she is only in the top 100, it is a good start as she might inspire someone else to reach top 20..
RE:So what if 20 is OLd?
by Sanuman Kumar on Jan 29, 2007 03:12 PM
maulik,
I never said that we have had a better woman player than her! However, just because she is the first woman player to rise to 31, it is not imperative to sing praises for her! Rank 31 in tennis is but mediocre, as it would be in any game.
I have nothing against Sania but I do have something against the people who are hell bent on making her a heroine, which she is not! She is just in top 50 and that is what she should be known for. Nothing more, nothing less. And as for top -50, players keep coming in that bracket and keeping falling out of it every so often and no one cares about those. True champions would actually be ashamed of being in top-50 if they are not at least in top 10. See Serena Williams as an example... the female was 84th ranked (or something) when she came into Aus open (yes, lower ranked than our very own sania). But she had the class and she showed it when it mattered. That is what I am talking about... that is what one could and should be proud of. I wonder when we, as a collective nation, will stop praising/celebrating mediocrity. When will we learn that nothing matters as much as winning? No, not even how you played... When will we aspire for, and achieve, the best in the world? I think the first step towards doing that is in shunning all that is mediocre, even our mediocre aspirations... think large, think big, think the impossible and then go out and make your best attempt to achieve it. And so, when it comes to looking up to someone, look up to the champs, the winners, not the also-rans like our own sania.
RE:RE:So what if 20 is OLd?
by satya s on Jan 29, 2007 03:31 PM
Mr.sanuman,
your mediocre knowledge about tennis is as bad. so pls zip it.Ppl who are overate their limited knowledge are inavriably fools.
It does not matter what serena does .our girl will do it at her own pace. because serena does not have the gifts our baby has. Originality and the forehand.
RE:RE:RE:So what if 20 is OLd?
by Sanuman Kumar on Jan 29, 2007 03:42 PM
yeah right! And without those "gifts" Serena has won the aus open thrice, the US open twice, the wimbledon twice and the french open once.
Oh, and with her "gifts", sania has managed much more! One, solitary, 4th round appearance in US open in addition to several round 1 exits at other grand slams.
RE:RE:RE:RE:So what if 20 is OLd?
by satya s on Jan 29, 2007 05:23 PM
Serena didn't win those titles by her second year fool. And neither did she win them with the facilities in india.She is from the most advanced country on earth FFS!
if she won it being from somalia,i wud be more convinced :)
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:So what if 20 is OLd?
by Sanuman Kumar on Jan 29, 2007 07:08 PM
so in other words you are saying that it is not the talent that makes people win matches, it is the coaching and facilities! And so, Sania can't win because we don't have good coaches / facilities in india? Wow... What kind of rubbish can people cough up in the name of arguments?
I would nevertheless rebut this lousy argument. Since you are such a huge fan of Sania, you must be aware that she was coached by Bob Brett (ex-coach of boris becker and ivanisevic) and Farrington (the coach of a top doubles team). And ever since she romanced the media, she has spent a lot of time abroad, where facilities are much better, according to you. And the result... zilch! Nada! Your argument about coaches and facilities lies as flat on the ground as is sania's graph of victories!
Logic, buddy... think of logic if you want to stand your ground! And think you will have to to invent another lousy argument, since there is no logic that exists to help you support your lost cause of trying to convince people that Sania is an achiever.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:So what if 20 is OLd?
by satya s on Jan 30, 2007 03:30 PM
Talent is only the first stage illiterate.No body wins titles by saying *i have talent*. you have to work on it.
where is the long process of realising your potential by proper training and guidance?
An advanced country like USA has a lot of facilities and experienced professionals with expertise that will make it easier for athletes in that country realise their full potential.Not to mention umpteen other factors.
It does not matter if two guy one in USA and another in India had equal talent in a field.The USA guy has several advantages to start with being in a advanced country with full resources and can reach his goals earlier. The Indian has to overcome his disadvantages first and that will take time.
Brett and farrington? LOL . clueless one.
Maria for instance has been receiving guidance at the Nick academy right from the age 10 ! i remember seeing a 9 yr old venus in a sportstars article !
They were spotted and trained meticulously long long ago!
donb't even compare the environments there and In India
you think a few weeks of brett and a season of Farrington is going to iron out technical flaws that shud have been worked in long ago overnight? It obviously does not work that way practically.
Brett was not a full time coach. She attended his academy only a few weeks two or three times .And she was promptly told "she has a lot of technical flaws".
I am sure even you have this little commonsense.
does somalia or sierra leone or chad or even vietnam produce world no 1 tennis players?
Start using it.
Rebutting my argument? ROFL....Sorry you are day dreaming. you are way too mediocre and ignorant for that.
Think about learning and exploring than waste your time spouting ignorant garbage with half baked mediocre knowledge.It won't serve you anything
RE:RE:RE:So what if 20 is OLd?
by A Bc on Jan 29, 2007 03:45 PM
Sanuman Kumar is correct. The way Sania has been built up is nothing short of ludicrous. And the standard defense of ..at least she's there... She tried and she's reached whatever rank out of THOSE WHO ALSO TRIED. I play tennis recreationally - should I consider myself hopeless just because I didn't reach no. 1? NO - because that was not my goal. Just because you enjoy a sport does not automatically mean you have to try to be the best at it... Such a pathetic attitude... "Originality and the forehand"....what are you smoking man...?
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:So what if 20 is OLd?
by Sanuman Kumar on Jan 29, 2007 07:20 PM
since you seem to "know" so much, why don't you elaborate on Sania's 'gifts', "Originality and forehand" instead of trying to act as self appointed police protecting a self-proclaimed 'intelligent' person?
RE:RE:So what if 20 is OLd?
by Jerry Kurian on Jan 29, 2007 03:22 PM
She is ranked 31st in the world. That means out of millions of women who aspire to play tennis, she is the 31st best player. How can that be mediocre???
RE:RE:RE:So what if 20 is OLd?
by Sanuman Kumar on Jan 29, 2007 03:27 PM
I can't, and maybe no one can, make you see the difference between mediocrity and winning when you associate the word "best" with 31st! :-) Make no mistake, it is good if you are 31st ranked (incidently, that is her highest ranking ever, not her current ranking) but unfortunately you are still in the realms of mediocrity.
Whether millions aspire to play tennis or not is not the question... the question is, is rank 31 good enough?? Is it the mark of a champion? To me, it is not.
She is proud to India regardless what other jealous people say. She is has reached to that hights where other, not even male palyers reached. She is just 20 and in a country of cricket she is achieved a lot. She will rise even more with more experience. My best of the best wishes to her. Peace to all.
RE:She is Proud to India.
by Sanuman Kumar on Jan 29, 2007 02:42 PM
really? :-)) hahahhaha when did you start watching tennis buddy? Have you heard of someone called Ramesh Krishnan? Or maybe someone called Vijay Amritraj? Do you know how far they have reached in terms of achievements? Have you heard of Ramanathan Krishnan? And for your information, as i have mentioned in another post below, 20 is OLD in tennis. You pretty much have achieved what you are capable of by the time you reach 20 in modern tennis!
I do not blame you actually, since 'fans' like you are products of today's kitsch culture... where fans are made and done away with by the media and by the "bhed chal" than any genuine love or understanding of the game.
RE:RE:She is Proud to India.
by satya s on Jan 30, 2007 03:39 PM
Mr.Sanuman says-"It just goes on to show that deep down most of the folks like you are so insecure of your own mediocrity "
correction. Its only mediocre smallminded people who try bring down others like the brilliant ones to their low level. That's how it works in this world.I guess you are of those fit for nothing hooligans in college who used to sit on motorcycles eveteasing and deriding people more gifted than you are ....lol...what a sad soul you must be .
"People like you try to create super-heroes out of thin air. It is that that i am against, not Sania as a person."
Unlike an ignoramus like you, i know what i am seeing. Unlike you, i don't open my mouth cluelessly. Its called strategic insight.That as i said is beyond a limited mind like yours.
" she ain't no great tennis player, not yet! Period. "
In the real world, its only sachin who averages 50,Mcgrath who averages under 25,sampras and federer who can win 14 titles.
You think a mediocre analyst like you is going to predict greatness properly? The world does not work that way,child....ROFL
RE:She is Proud to India.
by RPMattoo on Jan 29, 2007 05:02 PM
B positive. she is the first generation of women tennis players from India. even if she is only in the top 100, it is a good start as she might inspire someone else to reach top 20..
RE:She is Proud to India.
by rana basu on Jan 29, 2007 03:50 PM
u numbskulls! do you realize that sania made it to top 50 inspite of now doing well in the last 2 weeks? this just means that some others have been laying off, or were not in form. why are you hailing such a passive achievement? i am so ashamed of my countrymen!
RE:Sania is detoriorating
by on Jan 29, 2007 02:28 PM
So is Austarlian tennis. Not a single Aussie (Male or Female)reached the Semi Finals. So We Indians in India are still proud of Sania(who by the way has broken back into top 50 in WTA)but you Indians in Australia better be ashamed of Aussie performance and not the Indian one. Jai Hind mate.
RE:Sania is detoriorating
by on Jan 29, 2007 02:31 PM
Hello!?! Fine she is not up to the mark, but that is no need to be "ashamed" of her!! She is trying hard you know! And please speak for yourself, and do not speak for all the Indians in Australia (I am an Indian in Australia too, and I do not think like you). For one thing, you should be proud that at least India appears on the women's tennis top-50 list because of her. In a country of more than 1 billion, we could expect a few more players at least. Wish her the best for her future. She has in fact brought about an interest in tennis in a large proportion of the youth in India, who were otherwise clinged to nothing else but cricket. Hopefully, because of her, we might be able to see some more Indians on the top-ranked tennis players list. (And by the way, Leander Paes and Mahesh Bhupathi also play really well, but they were unable to bring about the same level of enthusiasm in tennis as this girl. (No offence to the other 2 great players here))
RE:Sania is detoriorating
by on Jan 29, 2007 02:30 PM
Hello!?! Fine she is not up to the mark, but that is no need to be "ashamed" of her!! She is trying hard you know! And please speak for yourself, and do not speak for all the Indians in Australia (I am an Indian in Australia too, and I do not think like you). For one thing, you should be proud that at least India appears on the women's tennis top-50 list because of her. In a country of more than 1 billion, we could expect a few more players at least. Wish her the best for her future. She has in fact brought about an interest in tennis in a large proportion of the youth in India, who were otherwise clinged to nothing else but cricket. Hopefully, because of her, we might be able to see some more Indians on the top-ranked tennis players list. (And by the way, Leander Paes and Mahesh Bhupathi also play really well, but they were unable to bring about the same level of enthusiasm in tennis as this girl. (No offence to the other 2 great players here))
RE:Sania Sucks!!
by on Jan 29, 2007 02:22 PM
hey u do u have any sense of wat ur writing..u only sucks u being an indian discouraging her..u r typically AUS!!1
RE:RE:Sania Sucks!!
by Sanuman Kumar on Jan 29, 2007 02:37 PM
do you really think that Rajarshi's remarks would be read by Sania (in order for her to be discouraged she needs to read these remarks, right?)? And if she really would read these remarks, make sure you show what you write to someone who has their grammar in place, unlike you. ;-) sorry but couldn't resist this seeing your post. "u only sucks" :-)) hahahhahahaha I am sure you can't even speak your mother tongue properly.
RE:Sania Sucks!!
by RPMattoo on Jan 29, 2007 05:01 PM
B . she is the first generation of women tennis players from India. even if she is only in the top 100, it is a good start as she might inspire someone else to reach top 20..
