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piri
Oh, so much labour
by piri on Sep 15, 2018 01:24 PM

with words.......by Nirmala Paandichiraman !

Yet not a single word on why she first assured journalists in a press conference that she would be back soon with the complete price details of the fighter jet and then, after weeks of evading journalists who followed up, reneged on her promise by standing up in parliament to say that the price cannot be revealed due to *security reasons* !

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B  B Sharma
Capability of HAL
by B B Sharma on Sep 15, 2018 11:26 AM  | Hide replies

If satellites for MARS, world class BROMOS missiles , Chanderyan & Cryogenic Engines can be manufactured in Govt establishments , Why HAL can not to suitably upgraded to build Rafale fighters in India under collaboration with France ? It is a real shame that defence minister is denigrating its own establishment to promote Reliance Defence who have absolutely no experience in the trade. HAL is in the aeronautic bossiness for decades & maintain all fighter jets operated by AIR FORCE.

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Srinivasan Ramiah
Re: Capability of HAL
by Srinivasan Ramiah on Jan 17, 2019 04:05 PM
Mr.Sharma, have you ever visited HAL for any official work? Then you will not write like this. The work culture built over the last 60 years is there for all to see!! It will need many decades of Modi type Leadership to reverse it.

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Ram Niwas
UPA Rafale deal collapsed as HAL was incapable
by Ram Niwas on Sep 15, 2018 10:56 AM  | Hide replies

This govt shoiuld have increased capacity of HALso that it could assemble, produce such aircrafts and advanced helicopters. Even now it is not late to take these measures. Mere blaming UPA , Congress or rahul gandhi will do no benefit to country. Let us be positive in thinking and actions

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Srinivasan Ramiah
Re: UPA Rafale deal collapsed as HAL was incapable
by Srinivasan Ramiah on Jan 17, 2019 04:08 PM
It takes time.And we need good aircraft in a short time.Thats why the direct Purchase.

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chandra
India's aircraft
by chandra on Sep 14, 2018 08:57 PM

India will produce and operate the aircraft very effectively

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Sudarshan Nityananda
HAL not capable ?
by Sudarshan Nityananda on Sep 14, 2018 10:56 AM  | Hide replies

If it was a matter of investing in HAL, then surely , if Antony was found wanting, then both Jaitley and Parrikar were also equally found incapable of upgrading HAL. IS this all that the BJP was capable of. WHy should they ape the COngress in every way and take pride in this ?
Even of HAL's cost of production was higher, that was in rupees, so the nation could have agreed to this , in the interest of upgrading our manufacturing and testing skills. How will HAL produce anything beyond 3rd gen aircraft if this is the MInister's attitude ?
This entire episode calls into question the BJP's commitment to self reliance and tech transfer and upgrade of our aerospace knowldge.

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paul theo
Re: HAL not capable ?
by paul theo on Sep 14, 2018 11:10 AM
THAT MEANS MAKE IN INDIA WAS JUST AN EYE WASH, THERE IS NOTHING THAT INDIANS CANT DO, WHY THE GOVT HAS NOT INVESTED IN HAL.? IF HAL. CANT DO , AS CLAIMED, THEN HOW CAN AMBANI DO?

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Ram Niwas
Re: HAL not capable ?
by Ram Niwas on Sep 15, 2018 11:03 AM
That is very much right. In the mean time the Govt should go in for minimum 5-7 squadrens of Cheap Russian aircarfts
whose specification parameters will be almost same. No need to go in for long tendering process for that. Govt must constitute of senior officers, technocrates and scientist and should decide such a case immediately with proper negotiation of prices witRussia. Russia has been our friend for and will definitely cooperate

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thirumaleshwar bhat
Re: HAL not capable ?
by thirumaleshwar bhat on Sep 18, 2018 05:56 PM
Only Ambani and Adani are capable guys for manufacturing planes becoz they have a lot of expertise in making and flying kites since childhood.

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arungopal agarwal
HAL or any PSU
by arungopal agarwal on Sep 14, 2018 10:41 AM  | Hide replies

Any activity which will be carried by any govt. agency will cost more than 2.5 times comparing to private sector, due to bureaucracy, lower efficiency, labour unions, security of job and non involvement at all levels.
Today peon or class IV employee cost Rs.60000 p.m. in govt. sector, his carry home may be around 20,000 but his leaves, medical, and other facilities are like Maharaja including DA linked pension benefit of today, whereas such employees cost in private sector maximum 20000/- p.m.
This gap is created by govt. itself after 2016 pay commissions etc.,
Modi govt. or even UPA earlier are not dare enough to bring any correction even for pensioners viz. a fellow who was drawing a pension of Rs.15,000 p.m. in 2006 now gets around Rs.80,000/- p.m.(PSU employee does not get pension)
How to control this loot.

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Jitendra Trivedi
Re: HAL or any PSU
by Jitendra Trivedi on Sep 14, 2018 12:52 PM
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT

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Anil Kumar
Rafel
by Anil Kumar on Sep 14, 2018 10:21 AM  | Hide replies

Shame on explanation an established organization couldn't and a 15 days old org.can give all.Say we wanted ....

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paul theo
Re: Rafel
by paul theo on Sep 14, 2018 11:11 AM
LIE AFTER LIE IS BEING TOLD TO HIDE THE ORRIGINAL LIE, ALL IN TANDEM.

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Its called "Make in India" (for only few privilaged}
by . . on Sep 14, 2018 08:57 AM

Yesterday Patanjali started manufacturing dairy products. Now a statement will come that AMUL is incapable of providing dairy products to Govt. so all the procurement will come from Patanjali only.

Russian company selected HAL for the partnership of manufacturing Helicopters instead of Ambani or Adani.

HAL is currently manufacturing SU30 and has manufactured Jaguars and all shorts of planes.

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That's the way we "Make in India"
by . . on Sep 14, 2018 08:53 AM

Yesterday Patanjali started manufacturing dairy products. Now a statement will come that AMUL is incapable of providing dairy products to Govt. so all the procurement will come from Patanjali only.

Russian company selected HAL for the partnership of manufacturing Helicopters instead of Ambani or Adani.

HAL is currently manufacturing SU30 and has manufactured Jaguars and all shorts of planes.

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sunil vaidya
hi
by sunil vaidya on Sep 14, 2018 02:09 AM  | Hide replies

hahaha..

HAL is an experienced company and doing its job very well for years!

and it was incapable of producing 108 aircrafts according to our DM nirmala sitharaman...

and a 10 day old inexperienced reliance naval was capable of producing 108 aircrafts?

how did you make this discovery madam? you jaitley modi shah and the whole of bjp as well as rss are nothing but skilled liars...

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P S SHAH
Re: hi
by P S SHAH on Sep 14, 2018 09:15 AM
Veda, your brain has no capacity to understand any simple things. Do you know the progress of HAL all these years ? Under UPA, the French complany did not find HAL capable and informed the government accordingly and UPA government did not say anything in this matter.

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Sanjeev MA
Re: hi
by Sanjeev MA on Sep 14, 2018 09:41 AM
Hi Vaidya,

HALs capabilities are suspect as it is not able to produce its own design Tejas. They currently has a capacity to produce only in single digits the whole year and which cannot even meet a miniscule of Indian demand. Withe participation of private players like L&T they will be able to produce about 24 units per year at full capacity and already has an order of about 120 jets from IAF apart from interest shown by other smaller countries. How are they going to produce additional units of aircraft for which they may need certain changes, ramping up capacity....

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YP SINGH
Re: hi
by YP SINGH on Sep 14, 2018 09:55 AM
No doubt HAL is all capable , but the question is whether the support, infrastructure etc required for bulk production diversification of HAL has been given earlier, only in his year IPO of HAL has come and that too, LIC has to come to buy the majority of share in view of lesser faith of public in our Public Sector Giants.
Things are changing HAL has taken lead in Research work with responsibility of making Tejus, LCH , sarang , The Dornier etc not only successful but worldwide required products.


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paul theo
Re: Re: hi
by paul theo on Sep 14, 2018 11:13 AM
THERE IS MORE THAN WHAT MEETS THE EYE, IF HAL IS INVOLVED, THEN HOW WILL SOME GUJJUS EARN EXTRA BUCKS?

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