the best tribute to Sardar Patel would have been to build chains of Public Speciality Hospitals for Poor and schools /colleges with boarding facilities fir the Poor students to help them Come up . Pure Economic Criteria for Poor students to get free education and stay with nutritious food with Sardar Patel Name all over the institutions rather than basking in glory , as a poor Nation , having the tallest statue of the World. Many ordinary citizens die daily fir want of timely treatment and this is not listed any where in the Agenda of Congress or BJP - why? Because their party guys get the best treatment at the AIIMS or abroad costing dearly to the others in the queue . Why ? Let us hope that Congress if comes to power shall dedicate such memorials thru Hospitals or Educational institutions fir the underprivileged class of citizens . Jai Hind
It has given employment to thousands and give opportunity for tourism for end less years. Just 450 million dollars is nothing.
HAL is useless government entity and we need many private companies to jump into fray of defence warship manufacturing.
No one has experience but can be given by such decisions so that we can get ride of lousy South Indian scientist who just pass time in HAL or DRDO to send their kids to USA. Also reservation ruined HAL from core..
Re: Rahul mutra ....
by Chaitanya B on Oct 13, 2018 10:23 PM
You can use your gutter language to make personal attacks on RaGa. That's a matter between you, your indecency, and RaGa.
You can talk about all the flaws that HAL has, as a PSU.
None of it still can justify giving this plum deal to a company that's 12-days old, backed by a completely failed and bankrupt corporate team that has ZERO experience.
And BTW, before you talk filth about South Indian scientists, take some time to recall some names like CV Raman, Ramanujan, S. Chandrasekar, Dr Kalam, etc, etc. Not to mention the team at ISRO.
As for reservation -- Yes, reservation has ruined the whole nation -- not just HAL. That still doesn't justify what this BJP govt has done on the Rafale deal for the sake of its electoral funding in 2019 !!
Re: Re: Rahul mutra ....
by Chaitanya B on Oct 13, 2018 10:40 PM
And talking of reservation, why is it that this BJP govt -- with its overwhelming mandate of 2014, led by a 56-inch chest full of gas -- not have the guts to get rid of it?
Re: Re: Rahul mutra ....
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:12 PM
Chaitanya, do you know that Reliance has got contract for maintenance of 7th fleet of USA ?
Re: Re: Re: Rahul mutra ....
by Chaitanya B on Oct 13, 2018 11:27 PM
P S SHAH, that's an order purely for repair SERVICES - not for MANUFACTURING - not even spare parts. Must've offered labor at a competitive price. And it's for ships - not fighter aircraft. There's a huge difference in the kind of knowledge and skill levels involved.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Rahul mutra ....
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:35 PM
Chaitany, Relaince has not got an order to manufacture Rafale fighter plane. Do you have any idea how realiance is involved in rafale deal and what for ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Rahul mutra ....
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:36 PM
Chaitany, Relaince has not got an order to manufacture Rafale fighter plane. Do you have any idea how realiance is involved in rafale deal and what for ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rahul mutra ....
by Kumaar Guhan on Oct 15, 2018 08:15 AM
Dear, business is about investment. Who is ready to invest should get the deal? May sound wrong, but this is training and transfer of technology, so who can invest should get the business. Moreover, these are not commodities to have a fixed price. When you buy a piece of such sophisticated tech, do you think the seller will have a fixed price? Your train tickets are not of fixed price today. Let us understand. These are prone to biases and frauds, but the big gain is to get the technology. HAL needs to work hard to match global companies. But have they? Thats a question. Has governments before fixed the productivity problems in our PSU? Why suddenly such drama? Let us forget the past and see if we can secure our nation and make people be able to get sophisticated tech to work on, so that we dont kill our innovativeness. Jai Hind.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rahul mutra ....
by Kumaar Guhan on Oct 15, 2018 08:17 AM
Dear, business is about investment. Who is ready to invest should get the deal? May sound wrong, but this is training and transfer of technology, so who can invest should get the business. Moreover, these are not commodities to have a fixed price. When you buy a piece of such sophisticated tech, do you think the seller will have a fixed price? Your train tickets are not of fixed price today. Let us understand. These are prone to biases and frauds, but the big gain is to get the technology. HAL needs to work hard to match global companies. But have they? Thats a question. Has governments before fixed the productivity problems in our PSU? Why suddenly such drama? Let us forget the past and see if we can secure our nation and make people be able to get sophisticated tech to work on, so that we dont kill our innovativeness. Jai Hind.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rahul mutra ....
by Kumaar Guhan on Oct 15, 2018 08:17 AM
Dear, business is about investment. Who is ready to invest should get the deal? May sound wrong, but this is training and transfer of technology, so who can invest should get the business. Moreover, these are not commodities to have a fixed price. When you buy a piece of such sophisticated tech, do you think the seller will have a fixed price? Your train tickets are not of fixed price today. Let us understand. These are prone to biases and frauds, but the big gain is to get the technology. HAL needs to work hard to match global companies. But have they? Thats a question. Has governments before fixed the productivity problems in our PSU? Why suddenly such drama? Let us forget the past and see if we can secure our nation and make people be able to get sophisticated tech to work on, so that we dont kill our innovativeness. Jai Hind.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rahul mutra ....
by Kumaar Guhan on Oct 15, 2018 08:17 AM
Dear, business is about investment. Who is ready to invest should get the deal? May sound wrong, but this is training and transfer of technology, so who can invest should get the business. Moreover, these are not commodities to have a fixed price. When you buy a piece of such sophisticated tech, do you think the seller will have a fixed price? Your train tickets are not of fixed price today. Let us understand. These are prone to biases and frauds, but the big gain is to get the technology. HAL needs to work hard to match global companies. But have they? Thats a question. Has governments before fixed the productivity problems in our PSU? Why suddenly such drama? Let us forget the past and see if we can secure our nation and make people be able to get sophisticated tech to work on, so that we dont kill our innovativeness. Jai Hind.
It has given employment to thousands and give opportunity for tourism for end less years. Just 450 million dollars is nothing.
HAL is useless government entity and we need many private companies to jump into fray of defence warship manufacturing.
No one has experience but can be given by such decisions so that we can get ride of lousy South Indian scientist who just pass time in HAL or DRDO to send their kids to USA. Also reservation ruined HAL from core..
Re: Status of Unity ?
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:14 PM
Chaitanya, whatever you may say, no one will bother abourt your comment and work on statue will go on.
Re: Status of Unity ?
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:14 PM
Chaitanya, whatever you may say, no one will bother abourt your comment and work on statue will go on.
Re: Yet another master-stroke from modern Mohd-bin-Tughlaq
by Rahul Zaveri on Oct 13, 2018 04:58 PM
You guys can crib as much as you want.
Modi was elected as CM of Gujarat by popular mandate, and was thus authorised by the people of Gujarat. Patel, the Iron Man and Architect of modern India got his due respect. His statue has been funded by the people of Gujarat. Nobody has taken it from your grandfather's pocket. So go whine elsewhere.
Maharashtra will soon witness a much more taller statue, that of India's most valiant King, Hero and Warrior, Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj.
Both statues will inspire the generations to come with heroic values and selfless service towards unification of the nation....something which moronic, penny-pinching and permanently constipated misers like you will never be able to appreciate.
Re: Re: Re: Yet another master-stroke from modern Mohd-bin-Tughla
by Rahul Zaveri on Oct 13, 2018 05:20 PM
When you don't have any argument, label the other guy a 'bhakt'. Keep a large container of 'bhakt' labels ready. There are just too many of them standing up for the nation.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Yet another master-stroke from modern Mohd-bi
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:18 PM
Chaitanya, are you not a blind Bhakt of one immature and inexperienced duffer who has an ambition to become PM without any qualifiction ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Yet another master-stroke from modern Moh
by Chaitanya B on Oct 13, 2018 11:38 PM
@P S SHAH. No, I'm not. What gave you that impression. Did I ever praise RaGa? Did I ever jump to RaGa's defense when the troll army indulges in its infantile name-calling?
But I definitely recall pointing out on this forum -- that despite the humongous noise made by BJP about Congress being full of scams, I cannot recall anything getting proved - except perhaps coal scam and CWG.
On the other hand, I also recall pointing out in these forums the BJP's blatant hypocrisy on corruption. So many examples of that: --It uses corruption charges as a tool for political blackmail (in AP and TN, for eg). --It uses actively recruits and/or cultivates extremely corrupt individuals and parties (eg, YSR Jagan and YSRCP in AP, notorious Bellary brothers in Karnataka). It has passed legislation to LEGALIZE its own FERA violations with BACKDATED EFFECT !! It has legislated to endanger the lives of whistleblowers. It has legislated to weaken RTI Act. It has notoriously failed to appoint Lok Ayuktas. The list goes on and on. The Rafale deal beats them all.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Yet another master-stroke from modern
by P S SHAH on Oct 14, 2018 12:05 AM
Chaitanya, better read all your comments again and ask yourself who you are blindlsupport ? You find modi as Tuglaq ? He has worked at the grass root level, know the ground reality and has climbed the ladder of success by sheer hard work, honesty, success, dedication and devotion unlike Rahul gandhi who has easily become President of his party. Did you uttered a single word when this inexperience and immature man rule the country with backseat driving without any acccountability or responsibility ? What you have to say about the scrapping of an ordinance passed by cabinet headed by EX PM ManMAunSingh in public ? The process of law in india can take number of years and this government dont want to waste time and want to work for the progress of the country. No one has said anything to the party which ruled the country for six decades but expect miracle from this government within one term.Better first read the history of congress of six decades, write comment about their misdeeds and then be after Modi and his government and have merit in your criticism.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Yet another master-stroke from modern Mohd-bi
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:18 PM
Chaitanya, are you not a blind Bhakt of one immature and inexperienced duffer who has an ambition to become PM without any qualifiction ?
Re: Yet another master-stroke from modern Mohd-bin-Tughlaq
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:16 PM
Without your vote also he got an absolute mandte to rule at the center. He has got all the authority to do what he want to do.,
Re: Yet another master-stroke from modern Mohd-bin-Tughlaq
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:16 PM
Without your vote also he hs got an absolute mandte to rule at the center. He has got all the authority to do what he want to do.,
Soul of Sardar must be crying on seeing such mindless wastage of money. Those who wanted such statue to be made may not have read the life and works of Sardar. A message to Mr Narendra Modi. If you respect sardar please respect him in your heart. You need not display it
Re: statue fo ballbhbhai patel
by laxman patel on Oct 13, 2018 05:09 PM
There are Lakhs of statues of Gandhi and Ambedkar in each and every nook and corner . Can you calculate the wastage ? . it is the pride that a BJP person making statue of the Congress man , sardar has not beed given due honour by Gandhi family .....all names are in gandhi ?
Soul of Sardar must be crying on seeing such mindless wastage of money. Those who wanted such statue to be made may not have read the life and works of Sardar. A message to Mr Narendra Modi. If you respect sardar please respect him in your heart. You need not display it
It is and will be a waste of good money of the people. Modi ought to have reasoned that the first Home Minister of India was no match for the first Prime Minister of India. He needs to accept these truths honestly. Naming it the Unity statue is in actual fact a major step in dividing the country.
Re: Modi and Statues etc.
by rnages waran on Oct 13, 2018 03:34 PM
THe Womeniser Then PM , Patel Biggest than Other The cut thorat Peron in Uniting India
Re: Re: Modi and Statues etc.
by daniel thorat on Oct 13, 2018 04:10 PM
Patel couldn`t ever have done anything solo, without the express approval of the entire govt. of India, including the PM. "Uniting India" are lazily spoken half-understood words. Look what has happened to our country today through those divisive thoughts.
Re: Re: Re: Modi and Statues etc.
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:26 PM
Idiot Thorat, None of the committee members gave any vote to Nehru as PM and all the votes were in favour of Sardar. Howevger, Gandhi for the reasons only known to him, instructed Sardar to step down from the race in favour of Nehru. The Sardar who had lot of repect for Gandhi, did what Gandhi wanted and the rest is history.
Re: Modi and Statues etc.
by Rahul R Zaveri on Oct 13, 2018 04:31 PM
When it came to electing the first prime ministerial candidate, Sardar Patel was voted by the Pradesh Congress Committees by an overwhelming majority of 15:3. Again, those 3 votes were not in favour of Nehru but were abstentions. Having secured 0 votes, Nehru should have sportingly stepped out of the fray, but went and whined before Gandhi who forced the Congress Pradesh committees and the hapless people of India to accept a worthless Nehru as PM. And that's how Gandhi and Nehru conspired to deny the nation a clean administration and a strong and united India. What we got was a loser who surrendered vast Indian territories to Pak and China, and a cancerous Nehru-Gandhi dynasty that fed on the blood of the nation.
Re: Re: Modi and Statues etc.
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:30 PM
Rahul, Gandhi made the biggest blunder in his life to opt for Nehru instead of Sardar Patel. He emotionally blackmailed Sardar and instructed him to withdraw from the race of PM and Sardar agreed. Gandhi had one very habit to get the things done by his own way by hook or crook or by threatening to go on fast till death. At the end of his life he lost respect from the people who had trust, faith and confidence in him.
Re: Modi and Statues etc.
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:23 PM
Daniel Thorat, The first PM was enjoying his flirting, while Sardar patel completed huge task of bringing all princely state into United india. Kashmir problem is created by Nehru. The thousands of soldier died in a war with china without proper arms, ammunition, clothes equipments etc and your favourite first PM was caught sleeping when China attacked India.
It is and will be a waste of good money of the people. Modi ought to have reasoned that the first Home Minister of India was no match for the first Prime Minister of India. He needs to accept these truths honestly. Naming it the Unity statue is in actual fact a major step in dividing the country.
Re: Modi and Statues etc.
by Rahul Zaveri on Oct 13, 2018 05:02 PM
When it came to electing the first prime ministerial candidate, Sardar Patel was voted by the Pradesh Congress Committees by an overwhelming majority of 15:3. Again, those 3 votes were not in favour of Nehru but were abstentions. Having secured 0 votes, Nehru should have sportingly stepped out of the fray, but went and whined before Gandhi who forced the Congress Pradesh committees and the hapless people of India to accept a worthless Nehru as PM. And that's how Gandhi and Nehru conspired to deny the nation a clean administration and a strong and united India. What we got was a loser who surrendered vast Indian territories to Pak and China, and a cancerous Nehru-Gandhi dynasty that fed on the blood of the nation.
Re: Modi and Statues etc.
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:33 PM
Idiot Thorat,If you have not read history, better dont ecpose your lack of intelligence and knowldge.
Re: Modi and Statues etc.
by P S SHAH on Oct 13, 2018 11:33 PM
Idiot Thorat,If you have not read history, better dont expose your lack of intelligence and knowldge.
